Wouldn't the Bible be a lot more believeable if the Old Test. was cut out?

I mean, you wouldn't have things like...

God creating plants....BEFORE He created the Sun.

Or God creating the Earth....before he created the stars.

Or talking snakes that stood upright.

Or a guy packing a million animal species pairs onto an 800 foot long boat, with somehow enough food to last for a year at sea.

Or the Sun stopping in the sky for a day...but the ONLY people on Earth who noticed it were Hebrews.

Or laws that tell you it's a sin to wear clothes made of two different cloths....but it's cool if you want to sell your daughter into slavery.

Or believing that bats are "birds"?

Or a supposedly "loving, merciful" God ordering the mass slaughter of children and babies...or even doing it Himself?


Get rid of the OT, and you've got a story about a guy saying "Be nice to people"...doing a few parlour tricks....and then coming back from the dead to say "Be nice to people" again.

 

For me it would not make the Bible any more believable but it would make it less contradictory.

 

Agreed. Ditching the OT wouldn't make the Bible any more believable, but it would make it somewhat less unbelievable.

 

I believe in the bible. It is a series of unrelated allegorical passages written by (only) men to describe things that they often couldn't explain to further their agendas.

If the old testament was removed, it would be the same except maybe a little less hate-filled.

 

I have not read it but didn't Jefferson do something similar when he wrote the Jefferson Bible?

 

Nope.... add intelligent and technologically advanced alien species to the formula..... and the entire Bible makes perfect sense!


"What about beings from other planets, do you think they visit here?

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

..... Especially if you factor them lusting after the daughters of men!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gen 6:1
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And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

and especially notice the sixth word.... in verse number six?????!

... and then dig up post #666 in Reva's 2017 Jubilee Thread......... and the plot becomes clear as mud!!!!!


...... Oh My .... I just noticed that this is also reply number 6!!!!!!!!

 

You reading comprehension is what needs be gotten rid of here.

The Solar Clock was what was created on the 4th day.
That God "made the Sun/Stars/Moon the ruler of time."


Gen 1:1 says a Big Bang beginning did happen.
Gen 1:2 says the accretion disk, a formless disk of rocks rotating the Sun, was void of global shape, which was true.
Gen 1:3-5 says the Dark Cosmic Age existed before there was any light in the Universe.
Gen 1:6-8 describes the forming of an atmosphere above and waters below.
Gen 1:9-10 describes "all the waters under heaven gathered together into one place," which was a Pangea-like truth.
Gen 1:11-13 explains that the Plant Kingdom came before the Animal Kingdom, which was true.
Gen 1:14-19 tells us that God assigned the Sun and Moon and Stars to keep time on Earth: ("made" in Hebrew means "assigned.")
Gen 1:20-31 explains about the animals diversifying into herds of mammals, and finally, man, made to image "Reality," mentally, in the form of Truth inside his mind.

 

Well it would certainly make it harder for the religious to condemn others for a whole host of alleged sins.

Let's face it it's the go to section for those wishing to belittle homosexuals!

 

The Old Testament was never meant to be in the Bible. It is Jewish Scriptures - The Tanakh.
There's nothing in the OT that refers to Christianity, except Christianity's interpretation. Jesus was a Jew, spoke to the Jews. He believed his mission was to bring his people back to Jahweh.
Most of the violence in the OT is simply events made up to describe the way THEY looked at Jahweh. Someone who punished them when they were bad, and rewarded them when they were good. Many of the battles they fought in the time period of the King Era - David to the Exile period - were simply natural events of a violent world.

 

Ought not anything which encourages sexual behavior among adolescents be opposed and made mute?

Sex Education along with all other categories did not work over the last half a century.
Half the babies born today are fatherless.
Just the child abuse, alone, is enough to see that kids need be raised to believe sex means marriage first, because babies start arriving for sure.

 

The Reality does exactly this,... punish the behaviors which oppose reality and reward the behaviors which adapt to Reality.

All Jesus Christ did was say The Truth will set us all free of the punishments, and reward us for abiding in the Truth.

 

Maybe what history has proven is that abstinence and prohibiting birth control doesn't work in the modern world..

 

The Old Testament makes up more than 70 percent of the Bible, not so easy to just toss it out the window.

 

The idea that "Mars Needs Women" that is, aliens always lust after nubile human girls is about the most ridiculous and unbelievable part of any alien influence theory. Think of it, says Carl Sagan, most of us are really put off by Spiders, yet a Spider is our literal brother compared to an alien from a completely different world. To put it another way, (also from Carl) are we that attracted to our (comparative again) cousins, the trees?

Then again there are Furries, and Guro, and Rule 34, so maybe rishathra might exist after all. I dunno, but I'm still skeptical.

 

No.

The new testament is as unbelievable as the old.

With the new you have ludicrous fiction such as a roman imperial census which requires many people to uproot and make long arduous journeys to their original place of birth. What purpose such a specific requirement served is never explained. Supposedly such worthless information was needed by the Romans even if it meant disrupting the lives and economic activity of many people such as carpenters from nazareth which in turn would have meant a disruption in Roman tax revenues. The whole census was a proven but of fiction made up to place the birth place of jesus in jerusalem even though the legend is based on a man who was clearly from nazareth but that of course violates old testament prophecy.

Then of course there is such inconvenient fiction as Herod murdering all new born boys because he heard the messiah or new king has been born. ( never happened ).

Then there is the whole problem of being required to get castrated, give up your family and live a life of poverty just to get into heaven.

I think you missed a lot of important crap in the NT

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The NT has the character jesus saying a lot more

 

"Wouldn't the Bible be a lot more believeable if the Old Test. was cut out?"

the bible would be more believable if Jesus had actually written some of it

 

Things were fine before 1950.
The Sexual Revolution f the feminists changed the culture.
From 1972, Roe VS Wade saw abortion rise from a very small number to 1.2 million every year, including today.

 

If you believe miracles cannot and do not happen, then yes, it is understandable why your perspective would be that way

 

turning water to wine is magic, do not believe it happened though.....

more likely some guy packed wine instead of water and someone said, watch Jesus turn water to wine

well actually his name was not Jesus back them, but you get the drift....


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Yes, if you want to approach it that way, all the recorded miracles that ever happened could be just based on false reports or trickery.
Which just adds credence to my belief that faith cannot come about merely just by reading stories of miracles. There is no proof that can be written down in a book that would convince anyone to believe.

 

Not just the OT, but all of Paul's misogynistic crap too.

 

The Jews would probably take exception to that, but no it wouldn't make it more believable. It would just give atheists less to work with, so I imagine you don't really support your own suggestion.

 

The New Testament is riddled with contradictions.

 

Interestingly, the Pauline Christians wanted to do just that around the turn of the first century.

They were trying to distance themselves from anything Jewish due to not wanting to be bound by Jewish Law but also because of the "fiscus Judaicus"

"Do not be deceived with strange doctrines, nor with old fables which are unprofitable. For if we still live according to Jewish Law, we acknowledge that we have not received grace.."

http://www.torahresource.com/EnglishArticles/Fiscus Judaicus.pdf

The paper then goes on to explain some very interesting aspects of the early Christian Church.

 

The Bible is a cool book. Like The Cat in the Hat.

Not sure why it matters if it is "believable" or not.

P. S. - You misspelled believable in the thread title.