Wouldn't the Bible be a lot more believeable if the Old Test. was cut out?

Paul was gay. Anyone who reads between the lines and "interprets" his words correctly is well aware of that.

 

.....the bible says within his follower's lifetime, and also says he'll return "soon". So obviously Jesus was a big fat liar. Why people don't see through the blatant lies is a testament to the fear, the abject fear, that the "all-loving" (ha!) Jesus puts into people's hearts.

 

Believing in a book that is so backwards that it has not been updated in CENTURIES will certainly do that to a person!

Oh, they could update it, but nah, they don't appear to be moral enough to do that.
Lazy too: "sure, I COULD update this most important book of all time that I give my impressionable young children that says to KILL them if they turn out gay, but nah, I'm kinda too lazy to bother, besides, I don't really care about my kids as much as those Modern Secular Humanists do, so I think I'll just get drunk this weekend instead of improve the best role-model book for my children."

Christians.....improve your book....the world will be a better place for it.

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Kill him then!!!!! (Oops, forget there for just a second that I'm not a Christian anymore and the Bible is full of immoral nonsense, sorry.)

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Yes! There's, well, there, um, well let's see, er, uh, let me get back to you on that......

 

The point made was that, Truth can explain to us how Reality will treat our bad behavior, if we don't stop being that way with one another.

The one major point made was that sexually promiscuous societies ALWAYS come to a quick and bitter end.
Non-religious people have always argued against this idea.
They said nothing bad happens to sexually promiscuous people.
Both sides have argued and opposed one another about the sexual culture in every society in the civilized world.

But today, we all have the Facts on this available to us.
Now we can all see, in a second on the Internet, that sexually promiscuous societies rise up,... replace patriarch societies,... then they fall apart.
So we don't need religion if we believe in The Truth.

 

He's too thanatophobic to dare to face the harsh truth in this question, I'm afraid to say.
When he loses that fear, then yes, he'll be willing to face that great question.
Good post.

 

Yes, if a person lives 33 years, has great abs , is adored by thousands, is the son of god, is "all-loving", travels with 12 DUDES, never spoke out against the discrimination against women, was neat, no wife ever, no girlfriend ever, and was never reported to have sex with women (ever!) his whole life, etc., then yeah, he's probably gay!
So according to the Bible this person should be killed. I could just see it now: "John, WTF! You just killed our messiah!", and John replies, "but dude, I'm going to get a good spot up in the magic place after I die because I followed the texts to the letter(!), the magic man in the sky will be so proud of me!"

 

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1) "I want women who remarry after divorce to realize they already have hurt their kids by divorce.

Widows do remarry.
They are included in what I meant above.
Their kids were hurt by the death, not divorce,... but nevertheless, the same answer applies in both cases.

 

I'm thinkin' these women want you to realize it's really none of your business.

This is one of the most condescending posts I have ever read from you.

And what is disturbing is that you seemingly make it as if you think you are an authority of some sort, but we know from all your other posts you are not.

"mind your own business and you won't be mindin' mine"... it's a song I'm sure a lot of women would love to sing to you!

 

This, to me, is like asking if Harry Potter would be more believable if we cut out the first four books. They build on each other.

I'd also note that, per usual, the choice of critique is very, very weak. You have a hard time believing the Bible because it refers to bats as birds? Really? Or is that just something you added because you wanted a longer list? btw, bats are mammals - a classification made in the 19th century, before which a bird was simply understood broadly to be a flying animal. Words and their meanings change - if that's sufficient reason for you to doubt a text, then idk, maybe you should doubt most history pre-Shakespeare, at the very least.

 

What Jesus said was often what the early Christians wanted him to have said, rather than what he actually said, when they wrote the Gospels much later. As I believe he was a great Jewish teacher who believed (rightly or wrongly) his mission was to bring his people back to their god - Jahweh - I tend to look at his teachings in relation to the Jewish beliefs of the time, rather than the Christian beliefs. It makes more sense if you've studied both the Tanakh and the New Testament.

 

There are some Bible passages in the Old Testament that should be cut out because they are dangerous and incite violence. Leviticus 20:13 is a prime example that calls for the execution of Gays.

 

So just to be clear.....you do NOT want widows to remarry?

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So the ONLY thing I listed was "bats are not birds"? That's the ONLY problem I have with the Old Testament?

What about items 1-6 and 8?

 

No, that can't be so! Because we all know that Jesus is too loving, too all-powerful, too caring, to let that travesty go on for 2000 years and counting....surely as he's now "watching over us, keeping us safe, looking out for us and answering our prayers" he'd have the moral fortitude to educate us enough that parts that says to KILL gays are removed from the book about him. The Bible is his legacy....and it says one of the most immoral things you could possibly imagine (killing innocent people - gays)....terrible legacy, Jesus.....you've failed, dude.

 

Big picture: people who believe in ancient religious texts get their life-advice from people who were so incredibly stupid (by today's standards) that they didn't "know where the sun went at night", and thought that killing gays, and even enslaving people, were pretty good ideas. NO WONDER they have a problem in today's world.

Love them, and show them a better way.

 

It all seems to have come true when we read the history that was written about the 1000 years of Jesus that would eliminate all the myth based gods and their religious congregations.

The did follow the arrival of the Comforter in 54 AD, which had to first come.
Even the OT seems to have predicted the sequence of events:

Zech. 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened, (the New Testament i.e.; the holy comforter), to the house of David,(i.e.; Christianity), and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem,(those who say they are Jews but are not: [Rev 3:9]), for sin and for uncleanness.

Zech. 13:2 And it shall come to pass in that day, (380 AD, when Emperor Theodosius I enacted a law establishing Catholic Christianity as the official religion of the Roman Empire and ordering others to be called heretics), saith the LORD of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and (Paganism) shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets, (especially of Astrology), and the unclean spirit(of Libidinal sexual excesses) to pass out of the land.

 

I'll bet most women despise you...........

 

Well if no one knew who they were, there would be no elimination of the Gays, and even the harlots, too, would not be stoned if they appeared sexually prudent.
We see the Muslims claim that there are no Gays in Iran, when clearly they mean we see none.

Hence the Bible is just saying that Out-of the-closet sexual activity means a strong public reaction to it.
It was like that in America in 1950.

 

All feminists and their supporters use that type of reaction to institute their culture into a society.

It is like if you want attention from the harlots, you need express support for their sexual "freedom" or you will never bet close to them.
This is the emotion tactic which changes a sexually prudent society into a matriarchy.
Matriarchies arise from a Politically Correctness which eliminates the Laws and order of behavior from prudence to what we today in America.
This the whole essence of the Truth which men need look at and see what the actual cost is today.

 

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Welfare now costs $ 1 trillion dollars a year.
The bastards raised by never married single women are 50% of all births.
Islam is attacking us from nations external to the West for this.
Fatherless kids suffer enormous Child Abuse.
Adult bastards commit 70% of the violent crimes today.
The prisons are filled by mostly fatherless criminals.
The police are being attack by Black people today when 73% of their families are on Welfare.

And your observation is that religious people are against the open expression of Gays, complaining that they are being picked on for advocating this open sexuality even more.
Funny...

 

Given you dub any woman who does not want to be subjugated to a man as a "feminist"....Margot's post is correct.


BTW, I have a good hypothesis for the reason for your hatred of women (all women), your desire to control them, labelling them "harlots".

 

Are you unaware that for 1000 years during the Age of Monasticism, Jesus repressed that libidinous lustfulness in society, and there was no sexual promiscuity?
It was only during the Renaissance, when this behavior was changed back to the old Roman ways that we saw sexuality rise back up even in art and sculpture and poetry again.

 

Part of my hypothesis exposed above.

 

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You are really stretching this out to make it appear that there are not two different types of attitudes among the women.

We see the young single never married women and the Welfare mothers raising fatherless kids on the democratic side of the issue.
The married, natural parent families of conservative women are on the other side of this issue.

A great book was written by a wonderful researcher who explained that America is now divided into two camps, with one set of women on one side of the culture while the other set is on the prudent side of natural parents and marriages:

 

Right... it was the age of gonorrhea and syphilis and black plague..

 

Do you admit that Islam is upset with this open Gayness in America, while the sexual revolution has changed the country enormously from what it was under the Blue Laws?
Don't Gays even care about the evidence that the open sexual behavior has had very bad consequences

Gays as a group are very intelligent.
And, very much aware of their own efforts to make sure they would and could be treated as well as the harlots who rose up.
But they need look and see that this ends badly for the nation, and also, ultimately, for the harlots and the open Gays if it continues.
Don't you love America, and see that the ends are not good here??

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The plague started after the 1000 years had ended.
The sexual diseases arose when the Renaissance returned the Europeans to the old culture of Greek and Roman times.