Jesus Christ is no myth

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Einstein is definite not a Christian and definitely not an atheist. Einstein is a clear example that science and religion mainly Christianity share a common sense the recognition that God created the universe.
    Science is now able to explain the reality of Biblical miracles at the same time that those miracles did occurred that changes the course of history and prove the reality of God.
    [video=youtube;JFTSQgzXN9U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFTSQgzXN9U[/video]
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Deniers have for the past thousands of years been asserting their claims that Jesus did not died on the cross, Jesus is not the Son of God, Jesus is a myth, no Christian persecution, etc. etc. etc. their assertion is so radical and extreme that many would create their own parallel stories, religions, communism, militancy against Christians and spreading false interpretation of the Bible and for that thousands of years up to present they have failed because they could not produce any empirical evidences other than using Biblical evidences by twisting and distorting what is in the Bible.
     
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    Exhibit 234. Mr. "I Merely Assert" speaks yet again. Funny though...he's run out of material. He's just repeating himself again and again. A very low grade creationist.
     
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    That's what deniers and anti Christ have been doing for the past thousands of years, asserting and asserting without any concrete evidences to back their assertion that is why the deniers continue to lack credibility.

    Today, thanks to our God given intelligence we are now able to understand creation, origin of the universes, that climate change is real, that dinosaurs existed and became extinct, and most of all that God is real.
     
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    Exhibit 235.
     
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    Exhibit 235 backed by historical facts and scientific discoveries confirm the reality of Jesus Christ. Today. science is able to understand and confirm that Biblical miracles are possible while deniers are still at a lost as they continue to struggle against truth and facts.
     
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    Science estimates the probability of Jesus and his miracles being real at around 78%. Those are good numbers.
     
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    YouTube videos do not equal peer reviewed scientific articles. Did you notice that not once were sources cited for any of the claims made in that video? You are going to have to use a better source.

    For the umpteenth time, Einstein did not believe the universe was "created by God". Einstein believed the universe was god.
     
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    Just not in any way you can demonstrate. You know...provide the evidence of this claim.
     
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    Lighten up, Francis. Re-read my post again in a 'sarcastic' tone. Then repost.
     
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    Same to you, Mr. "I Don't Do Evidence - I Merely Assert"

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    OK. Next time, put the sarcasm into your writing. I don't read minds.
     
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    You got it, dude!
     
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    I'd like to join in and say that as a practicing agnostic, I doubt god is real. Then again, who has all the answers? Who created molecules? Who created Hugh Hefner? It's a mystery. It's why I belong to the Agnostic Worship Center (AWC). It's a place that may or may not exist.
     
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    Keep in mind, guys like WanRen would take you seriously.


    But ask them...."What "science"? And what peer-reviewed journal was that in???"
     
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    My philosophy is this: I don't care what anyone believes
     
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    Hearing God's voice or other voices is a symptom of mental illness. Jesus was a smart, creative guy but probably schizophrenic or bipolar and needed a good dosage of anti-psychotic medication. Otherwise, he sounds like a pretty chill dude to kick back and have a beer with while contemplating the meaning (or lack thereof) of life and why we are on a spinning rock spinning around a star.
     
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    Like with Achiles, the character is likely real, but the conception of and the deeds of that character are a myth. Probably born from the prevalent superstition exaggerating the tale.
     
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    You're seriously suggesting that Jesus walked on water, raised people from the dead, and fed 5,000 people, and yet no one from that place and time bothered to write about it?
     
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    Without modern science we would never know, we will still be stuck with witchcraft, wizardry, geomancery, voodoism all those IMO are consider heretical science.

    Modern science even at 78% is able to prove the Biblical miracles as not unreal and not possible.
     
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    There has been no credible peer review as to no God in fact reputable scientist such as Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Einstein, etc. etc. were able to confirm that God is real. Historians are able to confirm the historicity of Jesus Christ and great leaders have confirm the truth.
    Abraham Lincoln: In regard to this Great Book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was communicated through this book. But for it we could not know right from wrong. All things most desirable for man's welfare, here and hereafter, are to be found portrayed in it.
     
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    Secular treatment for people with mental disorder is to prescribe medications, medication and more medications to drugs, alcohol and to more potent drugs.
     
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    I agree, Achilles, Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Julius Ceasar, Cleopatra, Leonidas King of Sparta and many ancient historical characters are real at the same time many of their exploits have been exaggerated many years later. In Jesus Christ it wasn't exaggerated because Jesus was persecuted and crucified for being what everything they accuse him of. Exaggerations are easy to erased but not truth.

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    Science has prove that is possible, remember Jesus miracles were selective this mean he knew of the circumstances that he would be able to perform those miracles.
     
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    Why do you keep lying? Einstein, Galileo, Copernicus, and Newton did not "confirm that god is real". Is this a lying for Jesus thing?
     
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    It doesn't matter if they are scientifically possible. If someone was walking on water, raising the dead, and feeding thousands of people, someone who was actually there would have written about it.
     
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    Jesus was persecuted, because he was a trouble maker and a problem for Rome, the local government and for the leaders of the existing religions of the day.

    The apostles weren't the religious scholars of the day - they were a collection of people of other professions who came together with Jesus to redefine or replace the religion(s) being promoted all across the region at the time.

    No sane person would think that would go over well with the religious OR political establishment.

    Mohammed faced the same problem, in fact, he was attacked by the armies of the establishment of the day even in his homeland as he added his own twist to Christianity and Judaism.

    Suggesting persecution is some sort of badge of truth or honesty is total nonsense.
     
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