Jesus Christ is no myth

No, he's just a broken record...broken record...broken record...broken record...broken record...broken record...broken record...broken record...broken record...broken record...

 

It is lie to continue to deny that Einstein, Galileo, Copernicus, Newton did not believe in the reality of the existence of God.

 

Scientific discoveries matters a great deal. There were many witnesses and the miracles were shared, and written down enemies of Christ persecuted Jesus, his Apostles, his followers and witnesses that dare to share the miracles the attempt to erased and eradicate the truth about those miracles failed because those miracles were real.

 

Jesus was persecuted because of his divinity. The Romans got drag into it by the Jewish leaders they want the Romans to do the execution even though the Jews could have done it themselves instead fearing that Jesus might be who he said he is they decided to have the Romans kill Jesus by lying to the Romans that Jesus was inciting arm rebellion against Rome.

Indeed, the Apostles were not religious scholars so was Jesus not part of the established Jewish scholars. The Apostles after Jesus Resurrection will become totally change individuals they will become enlightened with divine abilities to heal, to be more scholarly and all knowing about God then the established Jewish hierarchy.

Indeed again no sane person would dare to go against the powerful established Jewish hierarchy only the the bravest and divine individuals would.

Mohammed created his own parallel Christian religion called Islam, God never instructed Mohammed to create a new religion, God's instruction was very clear Mohammed was to reach out to the Christians and Jews and learn from them about God.

Mohammed would launch an aggressive, violent campaign by attacking all who refused to submit to his new religion called Islam, he will use treaties to trick others and to attack when they have their guard down.

Persecution is a reality it is no nonsense, there is no honor in it except suffering.

 

Einstein believed the universe was God. For the thousandth time.

And why are you now lying about what I said? I said nothing about their belief. Their belief confirms nothing, certainly not "that god is real".

 

Wait, by showing they are scientifically possible, aren't you discrediting the divinity of Jesus? Instead of messiah or madman, maybe he was just a magician.

The only accounts were written down decades later by those who practiced Christianity. Where are the contemporary, first hand accounts?

People have been persecuted for lots of different religious beliefs. That doesn't mean any of them are true.

 

No one is lying about what you said, you are actually lying to yourself.
Einstein believe in a God and his beliefs is what motivates him to push himself beyond the limits to learn and discover the process of God's creation. Einstein could have succeeded if he had lied for another 200 years but he made great stride for succeeding scientist to continue his works.

 

Scientific discoveries are confirmation and strengthen the fact that miracles are real but most of all Jesus is not a magician the people he healed did heal because Jesus is indeed the Son of God.

Aside the Apostles other Roman historians such as Tacitus, Josephus etc. will start writing about Jesus years after they notice the effects and events that was happening.

The persecution of Christians was due to Jesus Christ claiming he is the Son of God and most of all the way later Christianity is so much against dictators and tyrants.

 

Aren't you smarter than those superstitious twits?

 

I suggest you look up the definition of 'miracle'. And if Jesus healed people using scientifically proven methods, that wouldn't be evidence he is the Son of God.

Both Tacitus and Josephus wrote their books decades after the time of Jesus, and while they are evidence for Christians (no one doubts their existence), they make no reference to any miracles attributed to Jesus. Philo of Alexandria and Thallus, who was a contemporary of Jesus makes no references to him or his actions.

Still not evidence for the existence of Jesus.

 

Jesus was no problem for Rome, or for local government. He was simply a Jewish preacher who was in conflict with the Jewish religious authorities by telling them they had gone astray from the real Torah and their hearts were hard. Hypocrisy was the charge, and if you study what he said against the Torah, he was right.

 

Einstein didn't believe in creation. He believed the universe itself was god. Stop lying.

 

Yes we are smarter than those superstitious believers that is why we are on the side of Biblical history and not on the side of the deniers.

 

Miracles are events or occurrences that are real and yet in-explainable because of the absence of modern science discoveries. The scientific discoveries of Jesus miracles prove that it was no magic or trickery just like creation is no magic it is real and the role of science as Einstein put it very well is to learn the process not to debunked God's miraculous powers and miraculous events as not real.

a remarkable event or development that brings very welcome consequences.
an extraordinary and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore attributed to a divine agency.

Tacitus and Josephus write their books on factual accounts the rise and persecution of Christian and without Jesus Christ and his Resurrection their would be no Christianity for them to write about.

The only evidence that is absence to confirm deniers that Jesus is not real, or that God is not real or Biblical history is all myth is the absence of credible and establish independent evidences no ancient historians Romans, Greeks or Jews have wrote anything to state in record that Jesus is not real or that God is not real, all of the evidences and arguments deniers have been using are from Biblical history. science and philosophy.

 

Einstein wanted to learn the process of creation to claim he did not believe in creation is in direct contradiction of Einstein works which is to learn the process of creation. Whether Einstein believe the universe is god or something else is God the bottom line is he believe in a God.
Lying is we can say for the deniers they will deny even facts.

 

In the end, the government arrested and crucified Jesus.

Pilate made strong statements of his personal opinion and then caved rather than following through on his ruling.

If this had been a minor case, surely Pilate would have ended this issue immediately and told the crowd to do his bidding. Let's remember that Rome recalled Pilate because of his ruthless treatment of the Jews.

Instead, he had a major discussion about it and then took an action he had already stated was unjustified!

I don't see a path through these Biblical accounts that doesn't point to Jesus' case as being considered significant both by the people and by the government.

 

Einstein did not believe the universe was created. Einstein believed the universe was God. Do you think he believed God was created?

 

Tacitus and Josephus based their accounts on hearsay and second-hand information because they were not there, and still they failed to mention any of the miraculous events attributed to Jesus. At best, they are evidence for the existence of Christians, and if belief was evidence then every mythological being would be real.

 

Einstein believe God created the universe his statement made it very clear he is not interested in the theology or theo-politics only in God's creative powers the process of how God created the universe. It is very clear that he was no atheist and if he had lived for another 200 years he would have become another St. Paul succeeding in discovering God.

 

The persecution of Christians was no hearsay, their beliefs cause a great current events at that time because of Jesus Christ. If Jesus was a myth those Christians would have been easily eradicated especially with the severity and aggressive actions taken against them just like any other pagan religions it would have been eradicated successfully but because of their beliefs and faith was supported with factual truth the eradication was not successfully and this attracted Tacitus and Josephus to write about them and they wrote about the Christians based on their none Christian position to confirm that because of their belief in Jesus Christ whom Christians claim is the Messiah is God back up by Christ Resurrection was the main back bone of Christian faith. What Tacitus and Josephus did was to confirm the reality of Jesus Christ not the mythological being but the real historical being.

 

That's if you believe the Biblical accounts.

The Jewish Religious Heirarchy arrested Jesus. Nothing to do with the Romans. The Jews were allowed Jewish 'soldier' guards to protect the Temple. They arrested Jesus.

Pilate was hated by the Jews for his attitude toward them and their religion. But he maintained peace in Palestine and that was what the Romans cared about. He went to far in 36CE by attacking the Samaritans and that was the reason for his recall. Other charges were then added - as they say today.
It was a case not for the Romans to decide. It was a religious matter. Pilate was a cruel man and by having the preacher killed he maintained the peace. Of the Mediterranean countries under Roman control, Palestine was the most difficult to deal with.

 

How could Einstein believe God created the universe when he believed the universe was God?

Do you think he believed God created God?

 

People are known to believe lots of things that are patently false, so the argument that early Christians wouldn't suffer persecution unless Jesus was real doesn't hold up. I'm not looking for evidence of Christians or Christianity, I'm simply looking for contemporaneous, first-hand accounts of anything Jesus supposedly did. A simple reference somewhere to someone feeding thousands of people near Bethsaida, someone raising people from the dead, or the sky turning dark for no apparent reason. Something about the events themselves, not a story recalled decades later.

 

Interesting, but It was in a Roman "court" and the actions of Pilate still seem surprising to me as he actually put in effort to not kill Jesus, stating that doing so was not justified and then he essentially changed his mind.

If setting Jesus free would be significantly counter to maintaining peace, that would be MY point, right?

 

That is why Einstein does not believe the universe is god or God he believe God created the universe and for this reason, Einstein worked hard to discover the process of the origin of the universe as created by God the process of creation just like how science is now able to learn the process of some Biblical miracles.