List the reasons we should bring muslim "refugees" to the US

IMO in this day and age of muslim terrorist attacks, I cant think of one single reason to bring muslim refugees to this country.

Can the Obama and Hillary supporters give us even one reason they should be brought here. This especially in the face of the fact we have millions out of work.

 

It will accelerate the undermining of Christian and Western values and culture. That is the long-term goal of the Progressive movement.

It will further Balkanize the American people, justifying the authoritarian rule desired by the Progressives.

It will increase terrorist incidents, justifying the surveillance state needed by Progressives to monitor dissent and opposition.

Three excellent reasons for Progressives to promote Muslim immigration.

 

I'll answer your question if you answer mine below, first:

Is it okay to accept refugees who are - Christian or Buddhist or Hindu or Jewish or non denominational or non religious? Let me know and then I will answer your question.

 

Yes since those religions are not violent and do not intend to kill Americans. Now it is your turn.

 

Because, an alternative is to bargain with the Chinese for entire, new cities, to relocate them.

We know there is insufficient, moral of Goodwill toward men, on the entire right wing.

 

Have those religions declared a Jihad on innocent Americans and all people from the west?

Let me know

 

Islam has not declared Jihad on innocent Americans. Some Islamic believers (a minority) have declared Jihad on innocent people all over the world. Most of the people they kill are Islamic. Most of the people that are helping the West fight them are also Islamic.
The KKK has long claimed to be a Christian organization. Does that mean that Christians are responsible for 150 years of violence against Blacks and Jews?

 

Cite your figures for the number of Islamic people who believe in the Jihad.

I'm just going to pretend you didn't compare the KKK which only has a few thousand people world wide compared to a billion muslims.

 

Islam has not declared a 'jihad' on innocent Americans or all people from the west although certain terrorist groups have declared war on the US and the west. I know the popular view is all Muslims are terrorists but it isn't so, just as all Irish Catholics weren't members of the IRA and the countless other examples for other religions and terrorism / warfare.

It seems to me any trouble won't be from outside, it will come from inside - just as in the past. This domestic situation is the one that has everyone concerned, for good reason. Not including the recent NY / NJ bomb incidents there have been 9 fatal incidents in the US linked to Islamic extremism. US citizens were involved in all of them, a total of 10 US citizens of whom 8 were born in the US. There were 2 legal residents, one involved in the San Bernadino incident and the other was one of the brothers in the Boston bombing. Link below.

My point is not one refugee was involved. I know you are scared and frightened of refugees but they aren't the problem. I also know this won't sway you one bit, LOL........doing what's right and noble is for the old days, not the America of today, according to the fearful on the right. Other nations will have to do far more than their fair share in trying to handle the world's greatest refugee crisis since WW II.

http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/deadly-attacks.html

 

If I feared refugees, I wouldn't have volunteered to go to Iraq, twice. Your pathetic, anti-American views remind me a lot of the mistakes Europe made. Now they're paying for it. I know you're scared to hurt their feelings, but that's something you'll one day have to get over.

 

Since 2001 the US has accepted roughly 770,000 refugees and not one of them has been involved in a domestic terrorist incident. (2 Iraqis were plotting an incident in Iraq and 1 Uzbek was rambling about a 'plot'). One of your favourite sites, Breitbart claims that about half of the 770,000 refugees are from Muslim dominated countries. Links are below.....

https://thinkprogress.org/this-char...ke-in-syrian-refugees-5eab2f9f1306#.7qcp4qgmu

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...d-2-million-migrants-majority-muslim-nations/

It seems to me we should be far more concerned about homegrown US citizens committing terrorist acts. This is a huge challenge for us. I addressed this in post #9 - link below.

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...asons-we-should-bring-muslim-refugees-us.html

 

I know in your world, if someone has a different view than yours they must be anti-American. This would be wrong........
Your only point is Europe is making a lot of mistakes when in fact they are trying to deal with an epic humanitarian crisis. For that they earn your scorn....got it.

 

It's not an opinion. You want to invite ISIS cells over to the United States. I do not.

BTW, have you ever been to a middle eastern refugee camp?

 

not true at all; some on the left merely have Faith in Capitalism; unlike the right.

 

No, I do NOT want to invite ISIS terrorist cells over to the United States. How did you arrive at that preposterous and totally ridiculous notion?

No, I have never been to a refugee camp in the middle east or anywhere else. From what I've read on the first person accounts of those who have been to them and/or lived in them, they aren't great places to be, hence the refugee crisis and the ongoing migration. Just a tragedy, particularly for Syrians.

 

I'm just going to pretend you didn't compare the KKK which only has a few thousand people world wide compared to a billion muslims.

Apparently you don't understand analogies...I'll try to help. Not all Muslims are radical Jihadists just as not all Christians are Klansmen. Ergo we are at war with radical Jihadists not all followers of Islam.

 

The USA is accepting those refugees from Syria not because they are Muslims but because they are refugees many of those Syrian refugees are none Muslims.

 

You cannot be very serious about being, at war. Are you on the right?

 

How about the simple reason that they're the victims of Islamic tyranny and terrorism and not Islamic terrorists.

There could be no one more opposed to Islamic tyranny and terrorism than someone that's been subjected to it. The United States could find no better ally in fighting against Islamic tyranny and terrorism than a Muslim that's been personally subjected to it and/or that fled in terror because of it.

To effectively implement changes in any ideology those changes must come from within. "Christians" are not going to bring to an end radical Islam anymore that Democrats are going to be able to bring to an end radical Republicanism. The change must come from within the ideology itself and to address radical Islam we need Muslims that both oppose radical Islam as well as having the values we embrace as Americans under our liberal political ideology based upon the natural, not religious, rights of the person.

When it comes to defeating radical Islam around the world it's the refugee Muslim that has fled the oppressive tyranny and terrorism of radical Islam by choosing to adopt the American ideology based upon the natural rights of the person is the best weapon we have at our disposal.

 

You are correct. Refugee camps are tragedies. They function more like gangs. You should google the ones on the Syrian and Jordanian borders. ISIS and Al Qaeda cells are at war within the borders of the camps to establish the supply chain.

My cousin's in Jordan now. Not sure what base, he's not allowed to say.

Refugee camps are a breeding ground for terrorism because many young children and adults are uneducated and stuck in cramped spaces with no where to go.

 

Howsabout so they can help us in the war on terror?

These people are former residents of the areas where the terrorists are from, they know the language, the customs and the territory. They also have much better reasons to hate ISIS than we do as ISIS has thrown them out of their homes

I can't think of one single reason this isn't the extremely obvious first reason that would occur to anyone, right or left, in answer to the topic question. Can anyone tell me why it might not occur to someone, it's truly baffling to me

 

It would be dishonest to compare the KKK to the billion Muslims. On the other hand it would be fair to compare the KKK and the tens of millions of White Supremacists/White Nationalists that hold the identical racist ideology to the radical Islamic Jihadists. There are arguably more White Supremacists/White Nationalists worldwide than there are radical Islamic Jihadists and, in fact, we might have more White Supremacists/White Nationalists here in the United State alone than the total number of radical Islamic Jihadists worldwide.

 

Do you not understand that the concern is that some Radical Islamists will sneak in along with the refugees ? Deep down, no one has a problem with legitimate victims of Islamic tyranny being allowed in our country, the problem is that we do not have a reliable means of telling them apart from the radicals.

 

Why are these "refugees" such cowards????? They out number ISIS probably 10 to 1. Why dont they clean up their own country????

 

Except that they won't. They are the least likely to help, despite having been at the receiving end of terrorism. You are terribly naïve if you think the 'nice, average, Muslim' is going to stand against his or her brothers.

And that one single reason it's not 'extremely obvious' is that some of us here actually have experience in the area. We can see how silly these progressive fantasies about banding together for jolly hocky sticks with the New Americans are.