Florida man gets 8 months in prison in 1st felony sentence from Capitol riot

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  1. cd8ed

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    He was arrested in Feb so it has been a bit.
     
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    No, I likely wouldn't be saying that. Now I could see why you might think that would be a little hypocritical but keep in mind that ANTIFA is literally a nation wide mutli-cell terrorist outfit so that alone would justify an enhanced response. Plus lets keep in mind that I never said don't charge the 6-Jan clowns, I'm just not seeing justification for size, scope, and intensity of law enforcement efforts here. If it was such a damned important thing then why were all the requests to beef up security ignored?
     
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    Definitions of words are now hyperbolic BS?
    Fascinating

    So you do not believe arson happened at the BLM riots (I guess we need to call them something else as most of them didn’t see a single arrest for rioting) gatherings as no one was charged with arson, correct?

    Since crimes are no longer crimes until someone is charged…

    Y’all have really thrown every value away haven’t you? Family values, truth, honesty, integrity, not worshiping false idols, fiscal conservatism, and now definitions…
     
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    Bail money is what you lose if you don’t show up for court. If Harris is putting up the bail money the perp doesn’t lose anything if he skips town. What’s your understanding of it?
     
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    When it happens across state lines it becomes federal. Just like if you have a murderer that kills across state lines it becomes a federal issue. The whole is taken into account. Not just each individual instance.
     
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    That is the all important question.

    There are numerous reports and conspiracies out there and most of them point towards one man.

    This event was mass organized, I saw it done on three different websites that I follow and reported numerous sites and specific postings to the FBI. You should be able to look at what many of the leaders in the group were wearing and communicating to see this was probably more organized than people throwing bricks through windows and lighting things on fire.

    And yes, I view your position as hypocritical because they are “your” team. But everyone that speaks of this even seems to be doing that.
     
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    They give death penalties to people sleeping in their bed so I don’t doubt that at all.
     
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    Someone on the left is the last person to talk about definitions when everything they see, touch and feel is racist. And then there is the left’s redefining the words hate, nazi and the total bungling of what a phobia is.
     
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    All you have now is some unrelated whutabouts? LOL

    I already told you, they were charged, tuck your strawman card back in and try to stay on topic.
     
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    So because you feel the left is doing this — which you obviously disagree with — you and @Ddyad (she like the posting as of this writing) decide the best course of action is to emulate it?

    Strange.
     
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    Excusing the fact that you do not comprehend the definitions of a strawman fallacy or what a “whataboutism” entails — people were not always charged at these gatherings.

    Since you have a newfound issue with examples being given I can ask the direct question. If no one is charged with a specific crime does that mean that crime did occur? Yes or no?

    I would advise you to laugh less and pay attention more and you might not be in the situation you are but that would fall on deaf ears, so I will abstain.
     
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    What was bail set at for those who partcipated on 1/6 ?
    Not only no bail but solitary, you guys cheered that on.
     
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    What 'situation' might that be @cd8ed ? Do tell.

    YOU are the one saying they were 'insurrectionist'. When called to back your statement all you have is "a squirrel, look over there" ----->
     
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    If you are asking if a Walgreens should be protected as much as a branch of US government… then no…

    Are you seriously asking such an absurd question?

    Democracy was chipped away the moment the electoral college overrode the will of the voters. The moment partisan gerrymandering was implemented. The moment politicians pushed laws to make voting harder.
     
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    There's a bit of irony in your post, you try to contradict the notion that jail/prison(which are actually different things, shockingly enough) isn't a punishment for whatever law is broken, but then you go onto state the horrible conditions these people live in which do enable recidivism to occur. It's not that I disagree with you, it's just that it's an unintended irony in the way you state it, as though it's not punishing.

    It is, it's just not working. Prison/jail can instill fear in the law abiding, but with many of these people for example when carried by a passion that can for a moment surpass fear. And if crime becomes profitable(ie: if these people can't get jobs, they will inevitably return to the black market of crime), that's why our crime fighting efforts have not been as successful as we want them to be.
     
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    It's almost as if defending those town squares is the responsibility of the overpaid and underworked (at least according to their dismal case clearance rates) members of the local police unions, and they sluffed the job.

    Or they simply handled it as dismally and unprofessionally as they seem to do everything else.
     
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    When BLM breaks down the doors of the capital building to hang the VP gimme a cll. Until then you comparing apples to transmissions
     
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    I am the one saying that as per the legal definition of the word insurrection, an insurrection was attempted.

    I can post the definition if it would help you visualize what the word means. Think you could point to the portions you don’t think fit the definition?
     
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    How is it absurd? We citizens are the most valuable asset the US Government has. If the US Citizens cannot be protected by their government then our votes and our participation is junk.
     
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    That seems a bit rushed and incoherent. Please try again. :)
     
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    Because rioting and looting and burning aren't crimes unto themselves, and are unworthy of prosecution - unless it happens at the Capitol?
     
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    You're missing most of the punishment of being charged with a felony: You lose the right to vote, own firearms etc.
     
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    You 'forgot' to tell me what "situation" i'm in....
    I guess you are smarter than the best Federal prosecutors in the nation...
     

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