Opponents. How has gay marriage negatively effected your life?

It's a TRUE post!

 

Good, so then you FINALLY agree that it would be legitimate for a Christian or Jew to say that they have a religious objection to burning a Bible! It really shouldn't have taken that long, especially for someone as intelligent as you!

 

We have history to back it up. For example, the cites of Sodom and Gomorrah.

You can look at similar places in this age and time-like San Francisco (notorious for homosexual sex)- and see how bad their doing too. Who knows how many earthquakes occurred because of all that degeneracy….

 

Conspiracy section is over that way --->

Again, the question is how have you been personally affected by SSM, not by an earthquake. Unless you can prove a given earthquake is caused by SSM, you are engaging in correlation/causation fallacy.

 

I hope that this is a joke.

 

Gay marriage has destroyed my heterosexual marriage. Because, like, God and stuff.

 

Bad energy causes bad stuff to happen. After all, the universe is all energy, and everything in it is in a constant state of vibration.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Homosexual sex is an action, and like other actions it produces its own idiosyncratic vibes.

The religious texts simply elucidate on how particular actions can consequent in specific vibrations (and the physical manifestations of such).

 

You're starting your premise here with a subjective. I could make the argument that any sex, heterosexual and homosexual, based out of lust generates bad energy, and any sex, heterosexual or homosexual, based out of love, generates good energy.

Secondly, you still have not made any direct connection between the specific act of homosexual sex and any given bad event. After all, subjectiveness aside, by your logic any given negative act will cause negative affects. Thus an earthquake is as likely to be caused by theft, or embezzlement, or murder as by homosexual sex. More so even, since homosexual sex is a victimless act, assuming rape is not involved.

Here is where the third point comes in. You are engaging in a correlation/causation fallacy. Legal marriage, same sex or opposite sex, does not require or automatically equate to the physical act of sex. People who are unable or not desiring sex do get married. So if the act of sex is not a factor in legal marriage, what difference does it make the biological sexes of the spouses?

Again, correlation/causation fallacy. You have not shown any direct connect between SSM, yet alone homosexual sex, to any given negative event.

 

There is nothing wrong with lust. This is an opinion of yours based on your own sexual insecurities. Lust is a neutral phenomenon.

Homosexual sex is a forbidden action (sin), ergo, it generates bad vibes; unlike heterosexual sex, which is not a forbidden sin (within marriage of course).

It all depends on the magnitude and scope of said energy. Cities where a lot of sins take place will obviously generate gargantuan amounts of bad vibrations, resulting sometimes in total destruction.

I don’t see a problem in them getting civilly married…I’m only concerned with the sexual action….

 

I never actually claimed there was anything wrong with lust based sex. My example was just that; an example of how another might see it. As a poly and a swinger, I see no negative energy that results from lust based sex. But you cannot deny that there are those who do.

BTW, did you mean to call lust a "neutral" phenomenon, or was supposed to be "natural"? Both work but they can have different implications.

According to the Wiccan Goddess, homosexual sex is as acceptable as heterosexual sex, ergo it generates good vibes. Further, She does not require marriage for the act of sex to not be a sin. Again, the subjectiveness of the point renders your argument moot.

Also, since you used the phrase forbidden sin (which seems redundant to me), does that mean there are unforbidden, or allowed, sins?

Which only means that any "negative" energy generated by homosexual sex, could possibly be removed without sufficient reduction in the amount needed to cause destruction. Again, this is still correlation/causation territory, since you can't provide relative measurements between different negative energy generator, yet alone prove what is positive or negative.

Then everything you've put out is a red herring to the OP since it asked about SSM, not homosexual activity.

 

My employer forces me to participate in homosexual months against my will.
The problem with gay marriage is that gays need to constantly convince people (by force sometimes) that they have so called "equal rights".
In fact gay marriage is a special right granted to gays by unelected government officials without any kind of justification.

This is clear case when government provide public benefits for strictly private activity (homosexual sex) which can be interpreted as political corruption.

 

Then it is still equal rights in which the government is providing public benefits for strictly private activity (heterosexual sex), which can also be interpreted as political corruption.

However you are wrong in your assessment. Since legal marriage does not require sex and sex does not require legal marriage, the act of sex is not a factor in legal marriage, nor in the what the public benefits are received for.

 

Nope!
Heterosexual sex is not a private activity, because it is regulated by the government.
As you probably know heterosexual sex might lead to pregnancy and childbirth, so government should regulate those events enforcing responsibility of heterosexual couples.
If public benefits received for sex, it is corrupt politics because people who do not have sex treated as inferiors.

 

Nope, sorry.

 

Nope without any supporting arguments is actually means yes.
I have got it.
Thank you for confirming my point.

 

Um, no, it doesn't. You have yet to prove that same-sex marriage is a special right.

 

It is? Why I must be in violation of hundreds of heterosexual sex regulations! Do please cite for me those regulations which dictate who, where, when and how I can have heterosexual sex. I need to make sure I am no longer in violation of them!

Indeed, but that shows no connection to legal marriage.

Sounds like you are conflating sexual activity with legal marriage. They are not the same and stand independent of each other. And in anticipation of misunderstanding, independent of each other does not mean mutually exclusive.

 

I don’t expect you to “see” the energy. Also, you must be a human who does some good deeds here and there, so it may be the case that those good vibes of yours offset the unholy vibes caused by all that debauchery of yours.

Do you fall ill? Do you accidentally break stuff? How fair is you skin complexion? Are you balding? I don’t know you, so it’s not that easy for me to ascertain the physical manifestation of all your sins in totality….

I meant the former.

And I’m sure Harry Potter has his own opinions on homosexual sex, but what what does that have to do with the price of cabbage?

Yes, I should have simply wrote “forbidden act.”

Well, sure! What do you think prayer is all about? Charity? Calling your mother randomly one day and telling her that you love her…?

What’s the percentage of gay dudes who get married and remain celibate?

 

This same thing was said in support of miscegenation laws.

Marriage is a Right. Held by all who can give consent. It always has been in the US.

And for those that think marriage is a religious thing you don't know your history. Priests didn't even start conducting marriages until mid to late 1400's. Before then most couples merely had to declare that they were married and they were. The only time marriage was a pomp and circumstances type of thing was for political reasons for arranged marriages.

 

What's your point?

 

This is a red herring.

 

There is no such right to grab public resources without any justification.
Anti-miscegenation laws is about mixing genes between man and woman, which means procreation. Marriage is about procreation which 100% covered by right of marriage.

 

Procreation is a result of sexual relationship.
Government regulates procreation.
I thought everyone knows that.

I am not conflating anything.
Legal marriage regulate relationship between man and woman.
Gays just enjoy benefits without any kind of regulation.
It is 100% definition of special right.
We have to be honest and recognize that fact.

 

I do not have to prove anything when it is obvious.
If strictly private activity is rewarded by public benefits it is special right.
Kind of bribe for loyalty and political gain.

 

Incorrect. Gays get no special rights above and beyond what hetero couples get. They get the same rights every hetero couple gets.