FoxHastings said: ↑ What direct action have YOU taken to slow the rate of abortions? (unanswered) If you don't want abortions banned as YOU CLAIM then why TF does it matter what the rate is?? Persistence in what ? ( unanswered) LOL, what happens when Anti-Choicers realize they have no answers
I don't think that is actually true. I think someone busted that myth before in one of these threads.
Here is what I have, albeit this was not the page I first saw it at. I'm trying to figure out where I saw it before as well. If you have a link for the supposed source of the "busting" I'd be glad to peruse it.
FoxHastings said: ↑ YUPPERS!!!! Americans, FREE to make lifestyle choices !!!!!! That is up to the individual to decide .THAT is what freedom is.....you think "freedom" means living life according to YOU...
Seriously? 4th Amendment: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." I bolded the key point in the context of this issue. Are you saying that the 4th Amendment doesn't, or shouldn't, apply to women of childbearing age? Not one person has yet answered MY question: how would my pregnancy come to the attention of the government in the first place? Don't women have a right to keep medical conditions between herself and her doctor?
I'm saying the 4th Amendment cannot be used to shield someone from the consequences of committing murder.
This would mean that most women lack empathy for their unborn children. I doubt that. Women usually have a strong emotional bond with their children, especially when the children are very young. Nature arranged it that way. A normal mother would risk her own life to save her children's lives. Even animals behave so. This strongly contradicts abortion.
A woman doesn't have to regret a decision that she finds painful or saddening. Think about the dying child that a mother has to make a decision on whether to keep on life support or allow to pass on. While she might want to keep the child going she will often let the child go. And knowing that he won't suffer means she won't regret the decision nor experience pain from it. Now that's how one might respond and another will regret it and be haunted by it for the rest of her life. The same applies to women who have abortions. Many see it as never exposing a child to the pain and suffering it would have gone through if born to them at that time. You can argue that it may or may not and we will never know now, but we also didn't/don't know all the factors that the woman considers. Plus women have strong emotional bonds to their born children. Even woman that miscarry usually don't suffer the same loss as women who have lost newborns.
FoxHastings said: ↑ What direct action have YOU taken to slow the rate of abortions? (unanswered) If you don't want abortions banned as YOU CLAIM then why TF does it matter what the rate is?? (UNANSWERED) Persistence in what ? ( unanswered) FoxHastings said: ↑ YUPPERS!!!! Americans, FREE to make lifestyle choices !!!!!! That is up to the individual to decide .THAT is what freedom is.....you think "freedom" means living life according to YOU ??... LOL, what happens when Anti-Choicers realize they have no answers...they just get so silly...emphasizing how they have no point and no argument...
Anti-Choice Righties would patrol women's trash to see if enough tampons have been used by each woman and the report her if there are no tampons and suspect she's pregnant and then call the gestapo to get her , throw her in a barn until she delivers.... Or , Anti-Choice men who have been turned down by women (aren't they all ) will bug the woman's house and report her doctor's appointments...just to be vindictive..
This means that a mother usually loves her children more than herself. Genetic recombination (on average) produces new life that is better adapted to this world than the parents. Therefore, nature has implemented an instinct that makes our direct offspring more worthy for us to be alive than ourselves. Ever heard the story of the mother cat who used her last ounce of strength to carry her babies out of a burning house and then died from the burns? Why do you think why most people take crimes against children so much more seriously than crimes against adults? It's always the same thing. Our descendants are our future, which is why they are much worthy of protection.
There are no "children" nor "offspring" involved in abortion. Every "child" you talk about has been BORN. Have you considered that a woman can love a kid so much she doesn't want them born into poverty or to a parent who doesn't want them? AND NO ONE has an obligation to give birth. AND your comparison of women to cats (animals)is so silly and demeaning to women......but not surprising
Doesn't matter. The love between mother and child arises while both are physically connected. Before birth, both are one. This feeling shapes them for a long-long time after the birth. That's definitely correct. Just like no one has an obligation to survive this day. People do a lot of crazy and disgusting things. Taking drugs, commit suicide, and destroying their unborn offspring, etc. Some of these are prohibited by law. Some are not. I think we need better laws to protect the unborn. Cat moms are true heroines. Some human mothers should learn from them. The human race isn't totally f*ck*d up, but it's close to it. May God almighty have mercy on us.
Oh geese, here we go again. I suppose next you'll try to argue that Hitler was "infinitely merciful", putting people out of their suffering? These were completely normal fetuses/babies. You want to terminate them because of a likely life of future poverty (something that isn't even guaranteed, by the way). I guess all poor people wish they had never come into the world. It's amazing they don't all commit mass suicide, isn't it? I think this is what is referred to as very misguided empathy. Maybe you also think a woman drowning her toddlers in a bathtub was also an act of mercy? This type of argument (if you actually want to pursue it) would be best to start a separate thread about. But I know you won't start a thread about that because it would be so absurd.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Have you considered that a woman can love a kid so much she doesn't want them born into poverty or to a parent who doesn't want them? DUH gugga duh...if the woman is poor already likely her kids will be too...and she is more likely to stay poor.. I see that IN YOUR DESPERATION you had to bring up Hitler, the sure sign you have no argument. LOL, the rest of your post is like most of them, pure fiction...no facts, no logic, just drama and hyperbole because of " lack of argument""
Seems you're the only one here who would rather despise others than take an interest in the subject itself. Instead, we anti-abortionists should be emotionally affected because kids are being denied the right to life by guys like you.
Hasn't it been explained to you that some categories of these babies would be very much wanted? Since this has been explained to you repeated times in other threads, I will assume you concede that this argument of yours only applies to some categories of babies? Heck, if a woman dies, isn't she just "making room" for someone else, since the whole world is on the verge of starvation? (supposedly)
Yes, it's their parents' fault as well. Parents who kill their children should be punished very hard. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eok3_bOvnXI
What has that got to do with children dying of starvation? The point I am making is many seem to be more concerned with the unborn than the born
