Universal Basic Income Hits the Bay Area—If You’re Black

I'm just trying to apply your logic to the matter.

 

My logic came with a source that the black community is even being discriminated by their name alone.
And I didn't see you dispute that with a source.

 

You said they are disproportionately poor. I'm just applying your logic that they are lacking in education and training to a hiring mangers valuable time.

 

That's not applying my logic at all.
My logic is that the US got a very nice history of Arians and Jews of viewing black people as 2nd class. And so when white and black people with the same educational and professional background but just having different names, it ends up to be that black people get invited less often by 10% for an interview. And this has been going on for decades. I sourced it. And you're not debunking it.

 

Stop making things up if you want to be taken seriously. It wouldn't hurt to show a resource or bit of evidence for any of this. No one is responsible for debunking what is clearly fiction.

 

"Thanks for playing". Come on, do better. I have been respectful.

The study, and statistics you reference, evaluate drug use that doesn't really tell the story, and certainly doesn't draw the conclusions you desire them to draw.

For the purposes of discussion, the study assumes that one person who smoked a joint in college is the same as somebody who injects heroin on the daily. Maybe that helps minimize the delta of race based drug use (blacks are still higher), but it does nothing to address my point that "cultural degradation of the black community thinking drugs are a career move"... for that, this does a better job:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43

Drug Arrests:

Total - 1,234,178

White - 871,295
Black - 333,113

From a per capita perspective, blacks overwhelmingly are arrested more often than whites related to drug charges. That's not racism, that's a fact.

It isn't MY bias... it's facts. Statistics.

Not to mention the behavioral impact to fatherless children...

You would need to completely ignore statistics to arrive at that conclusion:

https://www.aecf.org/blog/child-wel...ingle parents,when compared to single fathers.

If I am the one who perceives blacks as inferior, why is it you that demands programs specifically for them in order to give them an advantage?

 

Fair enough.

But I'm saying they're practically ALL racists. At least I've yet to meet one who isn't, to some degree. After all, they're the ones infantalising non-white people to the point of idiot helplessness.

 

1) Yes, and they're STILL doing it. That they've had to change their tactics to work around current laws, is irrelevant. That some can't see it's the same thing, is very relevant (because that's how they're getting away with it).

2) If you're talking about the current Govt, they're the freaking perpetrators right now. They're the ones doing what other Govts did in the past. Clearly it's not about actual politics, but about which Govt the elites control. That's the Left.

3) Because in very short order those people will become the 'victims' - and on an on for eternity, unless we stop racism. You ask the why, but not why you want to perpetuate racism.

4) If it's considered "low" to judge others on the content of their character - not the colour of their skin - then this Govt has successfully convinced you that racism is great.

 

Yes ... with welfare and 'programs'.

Robbed of motivation and will.

 

Even given what the Left has done to Black Americans this century, they are still choosing to let it stop them advancing. At the end of the day, there are choices involved. Many many peoples have endured worse than African Americans, and yet still did the work on themselves to ensure advancement.

 

Indeed.
We established in both our previous sources that black and white drug related crime is about equal. And at the bottom line in ends up that the predominantly white police force mostly is busy hunting down black people who break the law and look the other way for the whites a lot. That's what you proved now. Congrats.

We BOTH sourced that white and black people do about the same amount of from drug related crime. And instead of accepting this you could not step over your bias. You instead proved cops got that same bias by totally focusing arresting black people for crimes both ethnicities commit equally.

The war on drugs has indeed treated the entire black community in a unfair way. And it's not just drugs. Driving while black is true phenomena. Cops kill unarmed black people also more often. etc etc.

Rather rich for a person ignoring my source and it's own saying white and black people do about the same amount of drug related crime. And your source doesn't even say why single parent thing happens. It's just your bias that you just think black people like to do that. For all you know, it's the poverty who is causing more stress within families. Poverty inflicted out of the Jim Crow era, in a country where it is made hard to escape poverty when born in it.

Well you sourced black and white people do an equal amount of crime.
But you're still not accepting this. You're just poised to perceive them as inferior.

 

In this case they are rather helpless. It's 500 bucks to the poorest black people. It's all part of this wonderful life in the US where you can work 40 hours a week, but still can't make ends meet without governmental aid.

While the government made sure that entire community were poor as hell by law. People who enjoyed the other side of it, for not having any kind of competition from black people, is the entire generation of Biden and Trump. They never compensated those people, unlike say the Japanese Americans for being locked up for just 3 years in 1942 - 1945. It's not comparable for being deliberately pushed into severe poverty for centuries till over 20 years after 1945.

 

YOU said they are more likely to be less educated and less skilled and that can be identified by the name. So applying that logic a hiring manager can only interview so many people out of the hundreds of applications they receive.

 

Hardly.
They deprived an entire generation from getting a fair chance in schools and so in the job market.
And some are now getting 500 bucks for it. lol
Face it. People like you do not what those victims to be paid anything.

Uh no. The governments when the generation of Trump and Biden went to college, made sure that their entire white generation had no competition from the black population. And currently people from that generation are exploiting this too. It's not like Hunter Biden would have made it without the help what his father gained during apartheid. And it's not as if a black family being economically being deprived of all that, is able to help their kids. The debt is massive. And some are now getting 500 lousy bucks.

They changed the law. But the culture of racism against black people still goes on.

It's undoing the racist wrongs in the past. Where you like to keep that massive head start for white people forged on flat out nationwide racism against the black population.

 

How the extreme poor will be robbed from motivation and will with a lousy 500 bucks, is beyond anybody with a sane mind. It doesn't even pay rent.

 

Not in the US. You're casually forgetting that the generation of white Americans who personally benefitted from apartheid, are currently and predominantly present with governing the country. This came at the expense of the same generation of black community who were made to raise their kids up in the ghetto. Those black kids were raised up in poor housing, with poor nutrition and that was their starting point to compete with the generation of Hunter Biden. That gives those people crap poor chances to succeed, and that's besides that racism is still no stranger against black people.

 

Absolutely not. That you think a "similar resume" means that there is a difference to be found in education and skill is beyond me.

 

My God. There is an excuse and a rationalization for EVERY situation the makes blacks victims. Got it.

 

My God, we both sourced that there is a neglectable small difference between white and black drug users. And instead of accepting this, you went back to your racist bias and tried to debunk both our sources, but failed. Time to put on your big boy pants on and own up.

 

They only have so much time to read resume's and check them you are saying that blacks are less educated and less trained...........................so a black name...............

 

Like who?

 

If you cherry pick the facts for confirmation bias, sure.

I smoked weed in college once. According to your study and perspective, that's considered exactly the same as a homeless addict that shoots heroine everyday.

When I raise the fact about the arrest and incarceration rate for drug related charges, which is a much better metric, you claim it's simply proof of systematic racism.

Then there is no where else for the discussion to go.

You have decided in your head which statistics align with your agenda, and any of them that don't are just evidence of racism.

Hmmm. Ironic.

Ok, let's try this question.

With drug related charges by blacks nearly one half of whites, while only comprising 13% of the population, are you suggesting blacks are being incarcerated on false drug charges?

Or, are you providing a relativism fallacy that says "but white people", which has nothing to do with the heavy incarceration rates of blacks?

Your having to engage in some serious cherry picking of statistics and mental cart wheels to dismiss this.

It's also ironic that you have latched onto ONE example I originally stated, drug use (and dealing), and have ignored all other examples. Even when you claim a father figure absent from a child's life has resounding implications, and I posted the source confirming that, you moved away from discussing that.

Are you here to "win", or are you here to discuss.

Simple question, do you think there are recently developed cultural norms in the black community that leads to poverty and dependence?

 

No dude. The end of the 20thC was great for Black Americans. They were finally coming out from under the shadow of the old racism, when the new racism hit 'em. That's ENTIRELY the doing of Leftists. All that so-called 'help' (welfare, AA, race agitating) has killed motivation, and fostered resentment and anger. A perfect recipe for disenfranchisment.

 

Various migrant and refugee groups.

 

Progressivism is hugely popular with the young (plus the immature older), and Progressivism is responsible for the widespread instituational and systemic racism we see today. Biden, despite his age, is actually practicing the new racism, while holding onto his old school racism. He's about as bad as it gets, but he is absolutely pushing the new "young people" racism .. make no mistake.