I am a good person and I don't need a god for that

And to you the Big Bang is, aside from the Tv series"?

 

A big chaotic splash.

 

I asked you first what type of energy is uncaused. You don't get to ask me a question until you address mine with a specific name of the energy.

 

energy can neither be created or destroyed, just transformed. So what would you call primal energy? The ‘types’ you are referring to if you share your list that you Googled are not fundamental types of energy any more than oil is solar energy, which it can be argued is a storing of solar energy.

 

You're still not naming one type of energy that is uncaused.

 

Just one term ‘energy’ …. Needs no name.

E=MC2 does not specify sub categories I’d E, call it primal energy if you like, energy can’t be created or destroyed, just transformed.

 

So this mysterious unnamed energy has no beginning. It's always existed, even though that defies logic.

Tell me; what is the source of solar energy?

 

So, a phenomena we are unable to explain the cause of must have a supernatural explanation is your point. I never said it does not have a cause, I said I do not know the cause and your imagined cause is an entity without a cause....speaking of defying logic.

 

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

 

You're taking what we know from our universe and trying to apply it to existence not dependent on the laws of it. That existence can't be dependent on them if it caused them to exist.

 

Uhm, gibberish again. I am making no statement about the unknown cause because I don’t know the cause, but you are. You are the one making an extraordinary claim without extraordinary evidence.

 

I'm not making a claim about an unknown cause at all. I'm making the claim that all things that exist in OUR universe has a cause for its existence. If the universe has a beginning, then it has a cause for its beginning, since logic dictates that something can't come from nothing. If you're making an argument that the universe always existed that would be an extraordinary claim because it isn't supported by anything we do know.

 

Everything IN the universe has a beginning, but that beginning is always due to preexisting matter and energy changing form. It's less a truly new thing and more a reorganization of what already exists. Also, the big bang involves the rapid expansion of spacetime, which you believe to be a human construct rather than an actual aspect of our physical universe, as physicists have proven.

 

So you admit that there was a point of creation. But, then how do you explain order in natural laws and the designs of physics, maths, which appear to be a constant throughout the Galaxy?

The universe has order, which to me indicates intelligent design.

 

Happy to answer those questions as soon as you answer mine. That was the deal.

 

I asked first. You refused. Have a nice day.

 

So you believe that some matter always existed. That's an extraordinary claim because you have no evidence of that matter, nor can you point to it on the periodic table.

The Big Bang is but a spark that started the process of the universe forming. If all things have a beginning (as we observe they do) then the Big bang had a beginning which requires a cause. I contend that the "Big bang" was the "light" that God commanded to come into existence, which was the catalyst for everything else that exists.

 

You are confusing two different threads. You have so far refused to answer questions when I ask them first, even if I offer to answer yours.

 

Maybe, maybe not. But if you include photons in the category of matter, then yes, I believe they are basically timeless, but I base that on physics.

. . . what? EVERYTHING IN THE PERIODIC TABLE IS MATTER.

And you are free to believe that. I'm going to continue believing in relativity, since the people who tell me about relativity are able to offer evidence.

 

Does light have mass?

 

It does not, but it does have energy, and those may not ultimately be two different things. Here's a great article on the topic: https://science.howstuffworks.com/light-weigh.htm.

Additionally, photons do behave as particles, which is what we normally associate with matter.

 

I wasn't asking you.

How can a partical have no mass?

 

You literally asked that question directly after I had brought up whether or not photons are matter, so I had to assume you were asking me. I'm not sure if that second question was to me or not, but the link I provided should help explain. And we know for a fact that light behaves as both a particle and a wave.

 

But light can't be converted into matter. It's a natural diode not unlike an electrical circuit or the properties of time. Just as God created the heavens and the earth before the creation of light.

Let me know when you get a net weight on a container of light.

 

Untrue: https://www.energy.gov/science/np/a...t#:~:text=The Science,in a single direct step.

This is entirely nonsensical. Just as God created the heavens and the earth before the creation of light. A diode controls the flow of the direction of energy in a circuit. How is light like a diode in that respect? And how can it be both like a diode and like a circuit? And as far as the "properties of time" go, happy to discuss that as well. The distinction between past, present, and future is an illusion.

My previous link addressed that.