Silly arguments being made by the right

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  1. Cybred

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    So nothing.
     
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    The guy Barr hired to run a disinformation report for Trump, but couldn't get it done for 2020? That guy? No thanks, his millions were wasted, no sense in giving right wing nutjobs anything else to "believe" in
     
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    ha, ha, ha
    your NPR link is a joke .... because the U.S. intelligence community in the article
    They even claim their judgement might be wrong... How funny is that when the agency won't even back it's own report...
    but I'm glad you brought it up so I can show you the error of your ways...


    It is that simple....not Russians.... the Russian GOVERNMENT... as scoped by the special counsel memo

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/3726385/Order-3915-2017-Special-Counsel.pdf

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    Senate bipartisan report said it's true.

    "We found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., acting chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said in a statement, directly refuting President Donald Trump's repeated assertions that Russian interference was a "hoax" perpetrated by Democrats.

    The committee, however, did not find any evidence of a coordinated scheme between the Trump campaign and Moscow, Rubio said.

    https://rollcall.com/2020/08/18/sen...igence Committee on,of Russian meddling," Sen.
     
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    That says it all.
     
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    but you are missing the whole point... "Senate bipartisan report said it's true".....
    but the initial U.S. intelligence community that wrote the report themselves.. that the senate report refers to.....says about their own U.S. intelligence report, may not be factual and could be wrong....... pretty bad when they don't even back their own work...
     
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    biden is doing a good job, and his appointees are not on foreign pay rolls (AMERICA FIRST!) or fomenting insurrection.
     
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    Joe Scarborough on Trump/Russia: Forget The Word Collusion, "This Is A Conspiracy"
    Posted By Tim Hains
    On Date August 1, 2018

    NBC's Andrea Mitchell and the 'Morning Joe' panel discuss the crowd at last night's Trump rally and the president's attacks on the media....

    "Not colluding. Let's not use the word colluding, they were conspiring with the Russians, this is a conspiracy. So, okay, no collusion. A conspiracy. A criminal conspiracy possibly."

    Joe Scarborough hasn't apologized and he still has a show on TV.
     
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    you say :

    "not Russians.... the Russian GOVERNMENT."

    your quote says

    "russian government and individuals"

    and how do we know if the "russian government" is associated with russian individuals unless we investigate? why is it ok for trump to owe his job and fortune to "russian individuals" or saudi murderers?
     
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    We don't "know." But what Durham concluded was that the investigation was based on unsupported allegations. We have other things to do than to spend tons of millions to chase ghost stories and pacify the left.
     
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    Oh yeah man everything's going swimmingly... No Giant shady ass foreign money trails leading to his entire family
     
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    if things are not "going swimmingly" for you that should be cause for introspection. things could be far worse.
     
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    What was it three or four major Banks failing in one week? Are you going to blame that on me?

    That's pretty weak to try to make me the subject
     
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    LMAOROG

    So don't believe the Senate report

    Senate bipartisan report said it's true.
    "We found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla.
     
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    You mean the Trump campaign manager, his asistant, Don Jr and the others att the meeting looking for dirt with Russia, or you meant Trump asking Russia to "find" (you know the definition of hacking starting the day Trump asked Russia to "find" Emails)

    Senate bipartisan report said it's true.
    "We found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla.

    “This is what collusion looks like”: GOP-led Senate report “far more devastating” than Mueller probe

    Report finds Trump's campaign chief worked with "Russian intelligence officer," details Stone's WikiLeaks contacts

    https://www.salon.com/2020/08/18/th...port-far-more-devastating-than-mueller-probe/
     
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    Grand Jury Indicts 12 Russian Intelligence Officers for Hacking Offenses Related to the 2016 Election

    All twelve defendants are members of the GRU, a Russian Federation intelligence agency within the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Russian military.
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/gran...ficers-hacking-offenses-related-2016-election

    He knows, he's just playing dumb
     
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    Grand Jury Indicts 12 Russian Intelligence Officers for Hacking Offenses Related to the 2016 Election

    The Department of Justice today announced that a grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment presented by the Special Counsel’s Office. The indictment charges twelve Russian nationals for committing federal crimes that were intended to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election. All twelve defendants are members of the GRU, a Russian Federation intelligence agency within the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Russian military. These GRU officers, in their official capacities, engaged in a sustained effort to hack into the computer networks of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the Democratic National Committee, and the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton, and released that information on the internet under the names "DCLeaks" and "Guccifer 2.0" and through another entity.
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/gran...ficers-hacking-offenses-related-2016-election

    Senate bipartisan report said it's true.
    "We found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla.
     
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    What? 3-4 in a week? You talking when Dubya was running things or Ronnie, that's the only recent times that's happened.

    Or you blaming Biden for the federal reserve raising interest rates because the Prez IS supposed to stay out of that, despite how Diaper Donnie constantly meddled
     
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    Actually, this is the context

    "We found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., acting chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said in a statement, directly refuting President Donald Trump's repeated assertions that Russian interference was a "hoax" perpetrated by Democrats.
     
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    Notice the date.... March of this year. So you are incorrect


    https://www.thestreet.com/banking/t...-in-a-week-heres-why-other-banks-might-follow
     
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    This family?

    Before Giving Billions to Jared Kushner, Saudi Investment Fund Had Big Doubts

    Before committing $2 billion to Mr. Kushner’s fledgling firm, officials at a fund led by the Saudi crown prince questioned taking such a big risk.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.html


    The Trump-Kushner-Saudi Arabia connections go deeper than we thought
    A new report connects more dots on shocking conflict of interest following Trump's presidency.

    ...In other words, Kushner has sought to block the public from knowing about the source of investment in his company. It’s legal, but it isn't appropriate. Kushner was a senior White House official, and details about who invested in a company he launched the day after he left the White House are a matter of public interest. Kushner treated Saudi Arabia especially well when he was at the White House. Among other things, he worked to shield MBS from diplomatic consequences after the murder of Saudi dissident Jamal Khashoggi, which the U.S. intelligence community believes MBS ordered. Kushner also developed a close personal relationship with MBS — they reportedly chatted late into the night several times during a personal visit.

    ...Shortly after Trump left office, the Saudi sovereign wealth fund-backed LIV Golf series began holding tournaments on his golf courses. The Post report notes that Saudi Arabia invested in Trump at a time when he was in financial need, in part because of the pandemic’s effect on his businesses and in part because his brand had become divisive. Trump also made a deal with a Saudi real estate company that plans to build a Trump hotel in Oman. Making things even weirder is that the deal makes Trump, a former president of the United States, a partner with the government of Oman. That raises yet another set of questions about the propriety of his entering into a partnership with another government.

    https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-kushner-saudi-arabia-mbs-corruption-rcna70598
     
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  22. Patricio Da Silva

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    Yeah, I realize you can't handle more than a couple of words. You're the kind of guy who needs emojis.

    But I don't write for simpletons, sorry.
     
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    The current crisis started on March 8, with Silvergate's announcement that it was winding down its operations after its customers fled. The La Jolla, Calif., bank served primarily the cryptocurrency industry.

    Two days later, U.S. regulators closed Silicon Valley Bank (SIVB) - Get Free Report after a bank run by customers. SVB was a major player in the startup ecosystem and among small businesses in the San Francisco Bay Area.

    On March 12, regulators closed Signature Bank in New York over fears it was running out of cash because customers were withdrawing their money in piles. The bank was focused on cryptocurrency clients.

    Sorry I was wrong, who thought there might be issues with cripto? lol
     
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    Ease up man he's on your team bro!
     
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    Well it's understandable and you can be forgiven since the sympathetic media did not see fit to cover the story with much national attention besides mentions on the back page
     

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