Hitler's hatred of the Jews (part 2)

Grau · Jun 3, 2023

yardmeat said: ↑

Did the party that Hitler lead remove citizenship for Jews based on their race or not? Yes or no? Their platform and actions say they did.
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Not to my knowledge.
I lived, worked and studied in Germany about 50 years ago and knew many WW 2 and Holocaust survivors as well as WW 2 Veterans.

The Jews who were not interred lived under some restrictions but life varied from location to location.

Naturally, not all Jews were deported or interred but citizenship status also varied from person to person.

For example, a WW 1 Veteran would keep his citizenship but a Communist would lose his.

Whatever the absurd law may have been, there very frequently exceptions made.

For example , the Rosenstraße protest is an interesting study in social conflict there during WW2.

Thanks,

Kokomojojo · Jun 3, 2023

Ronstar said: ↑

So you're saying the Jews deserved the Holocaust? Even those Jews innocent of any crimes against Germany? Even Jewish children?
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http://politicalforum.com/index.php...the-jews-part-2.610995/page-4#post-1074250440

as you can see from the above post from someone who was actually there 50 years ago, the position you present here is extremely distorted.

It wasn't about hatred and I can't repeat this enough it was all about politically protecting Germany from having its government changed into something its citizens did not want.

So we the American saviors jumped in and crammed it down their throats anyway.

Now if you want to talk about moral that's immoral.

How are they thanked?

The complete annihilation and destruction of a culture in their own sovereign country after saving and taking in Jewish refugees out of the goodness of their heart.

Ronstar · Jun 3, 2023

Ronstar said: ↑

Hitler clearly hated the Jews. ALL Jews. Old, young, rich, poor, Zionist, Socialist.

Its all there in Mein Kampf. Sad, pathetic, that he was such an obsessed, irrational bigot.

http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200601.txt

-The great leaders of Jewry are confident that the day is near at hand when the command given in the Old Testament will be carried out and the Jews will devour the other nations of the earth.

-The People's State, which I have tried to sketch in general outline, will not become a reality in virtue of the simple fact that we know the indispensable conditions of its existence. It does not suffice to know what aspect such a State would present. The problem of its foundation is far more important. The parties which exist at present and which draw their profits from the State as it now is cannot be expected to bring about a radical change in the regime or to change their attitude on their own initiative. This is rendered all the more impossible because the forces which now have the direction of affairs in their hands are
Jews here and Jews there and Jews everywhere. The trend of development which we are now experiencing would, if allowed to go on unhampered, lead to the realization of the Pan-Jewish prophecy that the Jews will one day devour the other nations and become lords of the earth.

-The constructive principle of Aryan humanity is thus displaced by the destructive principle of the Jews, They become the 'ferment of decomposition' among nations and races and, in a broad sense, the wreckers of human civilization.

-The bourgeois world is Marxist but believes in the possibility of a certain group of people--that is to say, the bourgeoisie--being able to dominate the world, while Marxism itself systematically aims at delivering the world into the hands of the Jews.

-Russia furnishes the most terrible example of such a slavery. In that country the Jew killed or starved thirty millions of the people, in about of savage fanaticism and partly by the employment of inhuman torture. And he did this so that a gang of Jewish literati and financial bandits should dominate over a great people. But the final consequence is not merely that the people lose all their freedom under the domination of the Jews, but that in the end these parasites themselves disappear. The death of the victim is followed sooner or later by that of the vampire.

-The black-haired Jewish youth lies in wait for hours on end, satanically glaring at and spying on the unsuspicious girl whom he plans to seduce, adulterating her blood and removing her from the bosom of her own people. The Jew uses every possible means to undermine the racial foundations of a subjugated people. In his systematic efforts to ruin girls and women he strives to break down the last barriers of discrimination between him and other peoples. The Jews were responsible for bringing negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardizing the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate. For as long as a people remain racially pure and are conscious of the treasure of their blood, they can never be overcome by the Jew. Never in this world can the Jew become master of any people except a bastardized people.

-That is why the Jew systematically endeavours to lower the racial quality of a people by permanently adulterating the blood of the individuals who make up that people.

-When the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the new national consciousness of the Jews will be satisfied by the establishment of a Jewish State in Palestine, the Jews thereby adopt another means to dupe the simple-minded Gentile. They have not the slightest intention of building up a Jewish State in Palestine so as to live in it. What they really are aiming at is to establish a central organization for their international swindling and cheating. As a sovereign State, this cannot be controlled by any of the other States. Therefore it can serve as a refuge for swindlers who have been found out and at the same time a high-school for the training of other swindlers.

-The Jewish instinct, which never fails where these problems have to be dealt with, readily discerns the true mentality of those whom the Jew meets in everyday life; and those who are not of a kindred spirit with him may be sure of being listed among his enemies. Since the Jew is not the object of aggression but the aggressor himself, he considers as his enemies not only those who attack him but also those who may be capable of resisting him. The means which he employs to break people of this kind, who may show themselves decent and upright, are not the open means generally used in honourable conflict, but falsehood and calumny.

-He will stop at nothing. His utterly low-down conduct is so appalling that one really cannot be surprised if in the imagination of our people the Jew is pictured as the incarnation of Satan and the symbol of evil.

-The ignorance of the broad masses as regards the inner character of the Jew, and the lack of instinct and insight that our upper classes display, are some of the reasons which explain how it is that so many people fall an easy prey to the systematic campaign of falsehood which the Jew carries on.

-No; the Jews have not the creative abilities which are necessary to the
founding of a civilization; for in them there is not, and never has been, that spirit of idealism which is an absolutely necessary element in the higher development of mankind. Therefore the Jewish intellect will never be constructive but always destructive.

-In order to form a correct judgment of the place which the Jew holds in relation to the whole problem of human civilization, we must bear in mind the essential fact that there never has been any Jewish art and consequently that nothing of this kind exists to-day. We must realize that especially in those two royal domains of art, namely architecture and music, the Jew has done no original creative work. When the Jew comes to producing something in the field of art he merely bowdler-izes something already in existence or simply steals the intellectual word, of others. The Jew essentially lacks those qualities which are characteristic of those creative races that are the founders of civilization.

That is why the Jewish people, despite the intellectual powers with which they are apparently endowed, have not a culture--certainly not a culture of their own. The culture which the Jew enjoys to-day is the product of the work of others and this product is debased in the hands of the Jew.

-If the Jews were the only people in the world they would be wallowing in filth and mire and would exploit one another and try to exterminate one another in a bitter struggle, except in so far as their utter lack of the ideal of sacrifice, which shows itself in their cowardly spirit, would prevent this struggle from developing.

-It is much the same with the Jew. His spirit of sacrifice is only apparent. It manifests itself only so long as the existence of the individual makes this a matter of absolute necessity. But as soon as the common foe is conquered and the danger which threatened the individual
Jews is overcome and the prey secured, then the apparent harmony disappears and the original conditions set in again. Jews act in concord only when a common danger threatens them or a common prey attracts them. Where these two motives no longer exist then the most brutal egotism appears and these people who before had lived together in unity will
turn into a swarm of rats that bitterly fight against each other.

-For, though among the Jews the instinct of self-preservation has not
been weaker but has been much stronger than among other peoples, and
though the impression may easily be created that the intellectual powers
of the Jew are at least equal to those of other races, the Jews
completely lack the most essential pre-requisite of a cultural people,
namely the idealistic spirit. With the Jewish people the readiness for
sacrifice does not extend beyond the simple instinct of individual
preservation. In their case the feeling of racial solidarity which they
apparently manifest is nothing but a very primitive gregarious instinct,
similar to that which may be found among other organisms in this world.
It is a remarkable fact that this herd instinct brings individuals
together for mutual protection only as long as there is a common danger
which makes mutual assistance expedient or inevitable. The same pack of
wolves which a moment ago joined together in a common attack on their
victim will dissolve into individual wolves as soon as their hunger has
been satisfied. This is also sure of horses, which unite to defend
themselves against any aggressor but separate the moment the danger is
over.

-But in Munich conditions were far worse. After my discharge from
hospital, I was sent to a reserve battalion there. I felt as in some
strange town. Anger, discontent, complaints met one's ears wherever one
went. To a certain extent this was due to the infinitely maladroit
manner in which the soldiers who had returned from the front were
treated by the non-commissioned officers who had never seen a day's
active service and who on that account were partly incapable of adopting
the proper attitude towards the old soldiers. Naturally those old
soldiers displayed certain characteristics which had been developed from
the experiences in the trenches. The officers of the reserve units could
not understand these peculiarities, whereas the officer home from active
service was at least in a position to understand them for himself. As a
result he received more respect from the men than officers at the home
headquarters. But, apart from all this, the general spirit was
deplorable. The art of shirking was looked upon as almost a proof of
higher intelligence, and devotion to duty was considered a sign of
weakness or bigotry. Government offices were staffed by Jews. Almost
every clerk was a Jew and every Jew was a clerk. I was amazed at this
multitude of combatants who belonged to the chosen people and could not
help comparing it with their slender numbers in the fighting lines.

-In the business world the situation was even worse. Here the Jews had
actually become 'indispensable'. Like leeches, they were slowly sucking
the blood from the pores of the national body.

-Now, the truth is that the State in itself has nothing whatsoever to do
with any definite economic concept or a definite economic development.
It does not arise from a compact made between contracting parties,
within a certain delimited territory, for the purpose of serving
economic ends. The State is a community of living beings who have
kindred physical and spiritual natures, organized for the purpose of
assuring the conservation of their own kind and to help towards
fulfilling those ends which Providence has assigned to that particular
race or racial branch. Therein, and therein alone, lie the purpose and
meaning of a State. Economic activity is one of the many auxiliary means
which are necessary for the attainment of those aims. But economic
activity is never the origin or purpose of a State, except where a State
has been originally founded on a false and unnatural basis. And this
alone explains why a State as such does not necessarily need a certain
delimited territory as a condition of its establishment. This condition
becomes a necessary pre-requisite only among those people who would
provide and assure subsistence for their kinsfolk through their own
industry, which means that they are ready to carry on the struggle for
existence by means of their own work. People who can sneak their way,
like parasites, into the human body politic and make others work for
them under various pretences can form a State without possessing any
definite delimited territory. This is chiefly applicable to that
parasitic nation which, particularly at the present time preys upon the
honest portion of mankind; I mean the Jews.

-In my eyes the charge against Judaism became a grave one the moment I
discovered the Jewish activities in the Press, in art, in literature and
the theatre. All unctuous protests were now more or less futile. One
needed only to look at the posters announcing the hideous productions of
the cinema and theatre, and study the names of the authors who were
highly lauded there in order to become permanently adamant on Jewish
questions. Here was a pestilence, a moral pestilence, with which the
public was being infected. It was worse than the Black Plague of long
ago. And in what mighty doses this poison was manufactured and
distributed. Naturally, the lower the moral and intellectual level of
such an author of artistic products the more inexhaustible his
fecundity. Sometimes it went so far that one of these fellows, acting
like a sewage pump, would shoot his filth directly in the face of other
members of the human race. In this connection we must remember there is
no limit to the number of such people. One ought to realize that for
one, Goethe, Nature may bring into existence ten thousand such
despoilers who act as the worst kind of germ-carriers in poisoning human
souls. It was a terrible thought, and yet it could not be avoided, that
the greater number of the Jews seemed specially destined by Nature to
play this shameful part.
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Hitler had some very terrible and evil beliefs about the Jews. He was truly a sick man.

Kokomojojo · Jun 3, 2023

Ronstar said: ↑

Hitler had some very terrible and evil beliefs about the Jews. He was truly a sick man.
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This thread however has proven otherwise especially from people who were there immediately after the war.

Kokomojojo · Jun 3, 2023

Grau said: ↑

Not to my knowledge.
I lived, worked and studied in Germany about 50 years ago and knew many WW 2 and Holocaust survivors as well as WW 2 Veterans.

The Jews who were not interred lived under some restrictions but life varied from location to location.

Naturally, not all Jews were deported or interred but citizenship status also varied from person to person.

For example, a WW 1 Veteran would keep his citizenship but a Communist would lose his.

Whatever the absurd law may have been, there very frequently exceptions made.

For example , the Rosenstraße protest is an interesting study in social conflict there during WW2.

Thanks,
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Those are excellent points to make.

Everybody over here gets the evil hateful Hitler propaganda from places like the Holocaust museum and everyone else that wants their 2 seconds of Fame in the skylights.

The reality as you just posted is very different, and Hitler is getting a bad rap that he really doesn't deserve.

Most of the Hitler haters I have interviewed personally never actually read or did any real in depth research on the subject because it's more important to win the popularity contest then deal with the realities and truth of the situation

If he was here today he could sue America for libel and slander.

Sometimes I wonder why Germany has not already done that?

Ronstar · Jun 3, 2023

Kokomojojo said: ↑

Those are excellent points to make.

Everybody over here gets the evil hateful Hitler propaganda from places like the Holocaust museum and everyone else that wants their 2 seconds of Fame in the skylights.

The reality as you just posted is very different, and Hitler is getting a bad rap that he really doesn't deserve.

Most of the Hitler haters I have interviewed personally never actually read or did any real in depth research on the subject because it's more important to win the popularity contest then deal with the realities and truth of the situation

If he was here today he could sue America for libel and slander.

Sometimes I wonder why Germany has not already done that?
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Because most Germans today understand that Hitler was a terrible, evil, hateful man. As his writings in Mein Kampf show.

And they honor those extremely brave Germans who fought against him during the war.

Kokomojojo · Jun 3, 2023

Ronstar said: ↑

Because most Germans today understand that Hitler was a terrible, evil, hateful man.

And they honor those extremely brave Germans who fought against him during the war.
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Not the Germans I interviewed!

They are resentful that America and Britain and Russia did not stand up for what was right, and in fact did just the opposite and joined the Jews in a religious/political war against the Christian Germans and tried to destroy them from within to promote Jewish political policy in a Christian country

Hitler was even thoughtful enough to suggest Madagascar and then Israel has a home base for all the Jews

When Hitler tried to deport the Jews more countries turn them down then accepted them.

So he was stuck with many of them.

If you want to see the epitome of hate look at all the hateful anti-hitler propaganda being evangelized by the Jews nowadays.

Are you Jewish?

Bill Carson · Jun 3, 2023

Ronstar said: ↑

It's important for people to understand how evil and disgusting Hitler's bigotry was.

Do you prefer we ignore it? Make believe it didn't happen?
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I think it's important to recognize that jews weren't the only victims in WW2. As a matter of FACT, more Russians died in concentration camps than jews. Seems they have more of a right to claim a 'Holocaust' than jews. Or do they just not count? Do they not get a special word for their slaughter? Not get special sympathy and virtue signaling?

Yeah I thought so.

Ronstar · Jun 3, 2023

Kokomojojo said: ↑

Not the Germans I interviewed!

They are resentful that America and Britain and Russia did not stand up for what was right, and in fact did just the opposite and joined the Jews in a religious/political war against the Christian Germans and tried to destroy them from within to promote Jewish political policy in a Christian country

Hitler was even thoughtful enough to suggest Madagascar and then Israel has a home base for all the Jews

When Hitler tried to deport the Jews more countries turn them down then accepted them.

So he was stuck with many of them.

If you want to see the epitome of hate look at all the hateful anti-hitler propaganda being evangelized by the Jews nowadays.

Are you Jewish?
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"Anti-Hitler propaganda"

Lol!!!! Too funny.

Bill Carson · Jun 3, 2023

Kokomojojo said: ↑

Not the Germans I interviewed!

They are resentful that America and Britain and Russia did not stand up for what was right, and in fact did just the opposite and joined the Jews in a religious/political war against the Christian Germans and tried to destroy them from within to promote Jewish political policy in a Christian country

Hitler was even thoughtful enough to suggest Madagascar and then Israel has a home base for all the Jews

When Hitler tried to deport the Jews more countries turn them down then accepted them.

So he was stuck with many of them.

If you want to see the epitome of hate look at all the hateful anti-hitler propaganda being evangelized by the Jews nowadays.

Are you Jewish?
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Yes he is. Doesn't that explain everything ?

Kokomojojo · Jun 3, 2023

Ronstar said: ↑

"Anti-Hitler propaganda"

Lol!!!! Too funny.
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Well suit yourself anti-hitler anti-german.

I'm the only one in this party posting references.

Thousands of people have tried to prove the Holocaust and they have all failed.

The sign on Auschwitz now reads 1 million instead of 4 million do you think somebody made accounting error just a minor insignificant 3 million off?

If we've been told the truth then it should still read 4 million, but it doesn't and now the Jewish community is scrambling to look for anything and everything they can possibly find during world war II to blame on to Hitler, doesn't seem to matter if it's true or false as long as they can get out here and blame it on to Hitler.

Do you think that hatred is moral?

Kokomojojo · Jun 3, 2023

Bill Carson said: ↑

Yes he is. Doesn't that explain everything ?
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I'd say it certainly tells a story and is a point worth considering when reviewing his posts on hatred and Hitler and the Jews.

Maybe a bit of confirmation bias, like extreme?

Bill Carson · Jun 3, 2023

Kokomojojo said: ↑

I'd say it certainly tells a story and is a point worth considering when reviewing his posts on hatred and Hitler and the Jews.

Maybe a bit of confirmation bias, like extreme?
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Yeah I'd say so. And he won't address the historical fact that the jews, even using the highest, inflated numbers, accounted for a minority of the deaths in the concentration camps.

Esau · Jun 3, 2023

yardmeat said: ↑

It wasn't about politics. It was about race. They took it away from the entire race, regardless of politics. Read.
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No it wasn't about race because there are black Jews who are a different race to The WJE. Anybody on earth can become Jewish if they have enough money and time, therefore it's not a race. Hitler knew this but used race as a means to an end. If you fall for that trick then you've been bamboozled. Or perhaps you are intent on making Jewish ppl a distinct racial group in order to keep other races out of the cult.

Esau · Jun 3, 2023

Ronstar said: ↑

Hitler had some very terrible and evil beliefs about the Jews. He was truly a sick man.
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Can you give me one example of his evil beliefs?

Esau · Jun 3, 2023

Bill Carson said: ↑

Yeah I'd say so. And he won't address the historical fact that the jews, even using the highest, inflated numbers, accounted for a minority of the deaths in the concentration camps.
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Not to mention the 6 million number. Honestly don't know anybody who really believes that tbh. It's just totally unrealistic. It's like 80k a day. Let's be real here.

Kokomojojo · Jun 3, 2023

Esau said: ↑

Not to mention the 6 million number. Honestly don't know anybody who really believes that tbh. It's just totally unrealistic. It's like 80k a day. Let's be real here.
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right out of the Russian National Archives, complete with reel numbers!

If Hitler hated jews to the point he was out to commit genocide he was a horrible failure!

yardmeat · Jun 3, 2023

Esau said: ↑

No it wasn't about race because there are black Jews who are a different race to The WJE. Anybody on earth can become Jewish if they have enough money and time, therefore it's not a race. Hitler knew this but used race as a means to an end. If you fall for that trick then you've been bamboozled. Or perhaps you are intent on making Jewish ppl a distinct racial group in order to keep other races out of the cult.
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The party platform explicitly stated it is about race. And black people had their citizenship revoked as well.

Esau · Jun 3, 2023

yardmeat said: ↑

The party platform explicitly stated it is about race. And black people had their citizenship revoked as well.
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It was a selling point, something to make headlines but we now know it was untrue. It was a political move, much like how the MSM (which is disproportionately represented by the WJE) claims 6 million. Researchers know these "facts" are false but it sells a narrative. The real question should be, did ONE fall for this falsified narrative...

Esau · Jun 3, 2023

yardmeat said: ↑

And black people had their citizenship revoked as well.
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What's the problem now though, are you of the belief that Germans want to rid Germany of blacks and WJE today?

yardmeat · Jun 3, 2023

Esau said: ↑

It was a selling point, something to make headlines but we now know it was untrue. It was a political move, much like how the MSM (which is disproportionately represented by the WJE) claims 6 million. Researchers know these "facts" are false but it sells a narrative. The real question should be, did ONE fall for this falsified narrative...
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It wasn't a "selling point." It was the explicit policy. I've quoted it.

Esau · Jun 3, 2023

Why are you guys even bringing up German history from 60 years ago in a NEWS forum?

I mean really, what's the deal here?

Esau · Jun 3, 2023

yardmeat said: ↑

It wasn't a "selling point." It was the explicit policy. I've quoted it.
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It was a selling point. What's your issue with that?

yardmeat · Jun 3, 2023

Esau said: ↑

What's the problem now though, are you of the belief that Germans want to rid Germany of blacks and WJE today?
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We are talking about a historical fact. If you are unwilling or unable to discuss this historical fact, have a good day.

yardmeat · Jun 3, 2023

Esau said: ↑

It was a selling point. What's your issue with that?
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It was the explicit policy. Why do you object to me having an issue with government enforced racism?

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