Hitler's hatred of the Jews (part 2)

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Point 4 of the 25 points shows you are wrong. You claimed you would respond to that (after you revealed you didn't know about that history) but never did. And "You can be sterilized and become a citizen but you can't be a citizen unless you are sterilized" is fascism. Why are you pretending that's fine and isn't hatred?
     
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    Never read the wannasse accords I see.
    Its all there black ink on white paper!
    Well old yellowed paper now days
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Im not that far yet, I will get to it when I do.
    Its the political right of a country.
    Just like a lesbian group can say no males in their group as an example!
    There is no hatred involved, males simply would not fit into a lesbian group.
    They had no other way to enforce Germanys laws that the Jews undermined and ultimately chopped up Germany with the Treaty of Versailles which most historians on the planet agree was despicable.
    That does not imply hated of the Jewish people but of Jewish politics
    BIG difference!
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I asked you questions about your unsubstantiated claim. Which you refused to answer. I provided historical facts, which you refuse to address.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Wannsee Conference says nothing about Jews being able to retain their German citizenship if they agreed to be sterilized.

    However you are free to quote directly from the Wannsee Conference to provide evidence for your claim.
     
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    Thank you for admitting that you are defending Nazi policies while also admitting that you never even read their platform and didn't even make it as far as a quarter of the way through.
     
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    So then you seem to be advocating FORCING A LESBIAN GROUP to allow males into their group based on your hatred policies that you feel you would have the authority to dictate to them?

    Identical parallel.

    Just because you dont like it does not make it illegal and certainly does not give anyone the authority to go to war to force Germans to allow Jewish citizenry any more than lesbians to allow males.

    The Germans welcomed the Jewish refugees with open arms until the Germans found out how they got screwed.

    Do you expect the Germans to bend over so they can get screwed more?

    That sounds like the policy you are advocating? they German laws were the only way they cold insure no Jews would get positions in German political affairs.

    Then the Jews called up all their friends and forced the Germans to accept Jewish policies by leveling the place.

    Hitlers hatred? Really?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like you're agreeing with Hitler's bigotry against the Jews, mentioned in Mein Kampf.
     
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    Reading fail. I was talking about whether or not Jews should have their citizenship revoked simply for their ethnicity. Address that. Your fake analogy is hot garbage. Do you support the Nazi policy of revoking citizenship from Jews of not? Yes or no. Be honest. I don't anticipate an honest answer, frankly.
     
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    Not at all, but based on REALITY we can clearly see that bigotry does not = hatred!
     
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    Removing citizenship from people based on their ethnicity is both bigotry and hatred. Full stop.
     
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    and that is off topic which got the last thread shut down so I refuse to respond, this is about hatred, I see no hatred in a country protecting themselves politically just like we in America did (despite the constitutional violations) with the Japanese in this country we locked them all up same as the Germans did to the Jews.

    .....and it wasnt against German law to do so, it was against our constitution byt we did it anyway.

    So if its hatred for Germany then its hatred by the USA as well or we are being hypocrites arent we?!

    Hatred? Really?
     
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    Thats your qualificationless OPINION, nothing more.
    Full speed ahead!
     
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    Claiming that you have to bar all Jews from being citizens in order to "protect yourself politically" is a completely nonsensical claim. And, while I oppose what our country did to the Japanese, we didn't do the same thing to them that Germans did to the Jews. Not remotely.
     
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    Removing all the rights of the Japanese by locking them up is exactly the same as removing citizenship, citizenship removes All rights locking them up removes all rights

    Again America did the same damn thing in a different way the result was identical.

    Japanese were stripped of their rights their property and thrown in concentration camps or deported just like the Jews.

    Seems to me it's very hypocritical the criticize what the Germans did and call it hatred when America did the same thing.

    So if it's hatred for the Germans then it has to be hatred for Americans too, unless we want to be hypocrites?

    Is that what we want to be?
     
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    Sure it does. They are the same.
     
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    Yes, what we did to the Japanese was due to irrational bigotry and hate. And we paid reparations for it.
     
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    no they are not!

    bigotry
    bĭg′ə-trē
    noun
    1. The attitude, state of mind, or behavior characteristic of a bigot; intolerance.
    2. The character or mode of thought of a bigot; obstinate and unreasonable attachment to a particular creed, opinion, practice, ritual, or party organization; excessive zeal or warmth in favor of a party, sect, or opinion; intolerance of the opinions of others.
    3. Synonyms Credulity, Fanaticism, etc. (see superstition), narrow-mindedness, prejudice, intolerance.


    FALSE
    HATRED is NOT in the definition of bigotry
    You are wrong!
     
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    No it was a cheap and dirty way to politically protect this country.

    It was not due to irrational hatred as you would like to paint it.
     
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    Sure it was. Treating all Americans of Japanese ancestry as enemies, was ignorant and irrational.
     
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    More like it was asinine and in fact in America it was 100% illegal and unconstitutional violation of their rights, but it was neither ignorant nor was it irrational and as I have shown definitely is not considered hatred as you claim.

    In Germany however it was legal, and the World Jewish Federation got together with their pals Russia England and America and leveled Germany to force their (as in Jewish) traditions and legal theory on Germany. Same as some people in this thread want to force on to me, but it's not hatred it's political!
     
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    But terribly immoral, hateful, bigoted and evil.

    Just like what we did to the Japanese.

    Just like what we did to the blacks was totally legal but terribly immoral.
     
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    No. They aren't the same. Removing citizenship is removing citizenship. And no one here is defending what happened to the Japanese in the US at that time. Are you capable of criticizing what the Nazis did (which would actually be topical) or not? Clearly not. You are projecting your hypocrisy onto others as an excuse for hiding from the topic.
     
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    Im not the one making the claims Ron and you are, and that means its impossible for me to project any hypocrisy and I very clearly stated why it is not hatred, seems more you are inventing strawmen to avoid answering for your own projection.
     
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    It is not hatred to take someone's citizenship away just because of their race? You sure you want to keep standing by that garbage?
     
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