Hitler's hatred of the Jews (part 2)

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  1. pitbull

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    Uncle Adolph didn't need to write such order, however, he verbally articulated it.
    ... and his minions understood well ... and immediately began to work.

    :(

    https://echoesandreflections.org/wp...2-08_StudentHandout_HitlerReichstagSpeech.pdf
     
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    Not necessary, because HC deniers are professional liars. They even lie about their own motives. :(

    Just note their historical statements about the Nazi era.
    These are absurd enough.
     
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    There is a really good archive of documents at the following link — maybe @Grau can work through them one by one and refute them. He still hasn’t explained where all the Jews disappeared to. @Grau has pathetically reproduced the same 10 - 20 pieces of denier manufactured information to support his denial of the holocaust — this archive contains 30 million documents of real history.

    https://collections.arolsen-archives.org/en/search

    Welcome to the Online Archive of the Arolsen Archives!
    The Arolsen Archives are an international center on Nazi persecution with the world’s most extensive collection of documents about the victims and survivors of National Socialism. The documents relate to the various groups persecuted by the Nazi regime and contain references to around 17.5 million people, making them an important source of knowledge for society today.

    Many of the around 30 million documents are now available in the Online Archive of the Arolsen Archives. The number of searchable names and keywords is growing all the time.

    In 2020, our Online Archive received the European Heritage Award / Europa Nostra Award 2020, Europe’s highest honor in the field of preserving cultural heritage.
     
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    You're kidding, I hope.
    How could Hitler have communicated his intentions from one end of the Third Reich to the other by mouth?

    There was nothing about a genocidal agenda or mass gassing in any of the German radio transmissions.

    You might as well have said that the Germans (yes, I know Hitler was born in Austria) communicated telepathically.

    Next, the quote that every Holocaustian cites was simply an "If - then" prediction, not a declaration of intent.

    It's my understanding that you put a lot of faith in all of the eyewitness accounts so here one of the millions that don't lie.
    His name was Thies Christophersen.

    EXCERPT
    "I was in Auschwitz and I can assure you that there was no 'gas chamber' there." Only seldom does one hear defense witnesses with enough courage to pronounce this statement. They are persecuted in the courts. 10 Still today, everyone in Germany takes the risk that, if they give an eyewitness account in favor of Thies Christophersen (who wrote The Auschwitz Lie), they will be punished for '"defaming the memory of the deceased." 11

    Immediately after the war, the Germans, the International Red Cross and the Vatican (which was otherwise so expert as to whatever happened in Poland), as well as many others, declared in an embarrassed tone: "The 'gas chambers' we knew nothing about them!" Yes but I would put the question this way: "Can one know about things which did not even happen?"

    There was not a single "gas chamber" in even one of the German concentration camps; that is the truth. The nonexistence of "gas chambers" should be regarded as welcome news; to hide this news in the future would be an injustice. Just as there is no attack upon a religion if one portrays "Fatima" as a fraud, the announcement that the "gas chambers" are an historical lie is no attack upon concentration camp survivors. One is merely doing one's duty being truthful." CONTINUED. (1)




    (1). " The 'Problem of the Gas Chambers"
    https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v01/v01p103_Faurisson.html
     
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    That wasn't necessary. When Hitler's direct, devoted servants like Himmler and Goering heard their master's voice, he could be sure that his will was being carried out all over the Reich. :(

    Hitler wanted the Jews to be exterminated. So the Holocaust became reality.
    :(
     
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    It's easy for a Nazi to lie for the sake of his "Fuhrer".
    :(
     
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    Without slander, Group-Think and profitable anti German bigotry, they're speechless.

    Because the slanderous Holocaust narrative is perhaps the greatest conspiracy theory of our time, fewer and fewer people believe the profitable fables(1) that began with fake human skin lampshades, fake human fat soap, shrunken heads, fake human skin pocketbooks and even a homicidal "vaporizer". (2)

    People who swallow the standard Holocaust narrative have proven to be oblivious of history's most basic reality:

    "Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
    George Orwell

    Thanks,


    (1). ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED


    (2). "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED
     
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    When you deny the Holocaust, you are denying historical facts. Millions of Jews systematically murdered by the Nazis and their Fascist allies.
     
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    Discussing the history of the Holocaust is not anti-German slander. Just like how discussing slavery and Segregation in the USA is not anti-white slander, discussing Apartheid is not anti-white slander, discussing ethnic cleansing and discrimination against Arabs in Israel is not anti-Jewish slander.
     
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    Since none of the deniers will answer my question of where all the missing Jewish people went to since they apparently weren’t gassed, shot, hung, starved to death, I will supply an answer. They all died during the holocaust. They all died. The pitiful links full of lies don’t stand up to scrutiny. End of. Stop lying.

    https://www.yadvashem.org/archive/hall-of-names.html

    Survivors of the Holocaust have provided the names of family, friends, and acquaintances who perished during the Holocaust.
    The first 800,000 names were collected during the 1950’s.

    Names were collected throughout the years in Israel and among Jewish communities throughout the world. In 1968, a “Room of Names” was opened on Yad Vashem’s campus on the Mount of Remembrance in Jerusalem. Between 1984 to 1985, Yad Vashem microfilmed close to 1.1 million pages of testimony related to Jews that went missing throughout the war. During the 1980’s the average number of pages collected was about 15,000 pages per year. A page represents one missing person. After the fall of the ‘Iron Curtain’, the annual collection increased to about 35,000.

    In the 1990’s, they started to actively gather and process lists of names originating from deportations, camps, and ghetto records. From 1991 until 1998 one million names had been added from this process.

    In May of 1999, Yad Vashem initiated a world wide media media campaign to collect ‘Pages of Testimony’. By the end of 1999, 380,000 pages were collected. In 2000, an additional 70,000 pages were collected. 80 percent of the names added were the names of victims that were not previously recorded.

    Currently, what is now called the ‘Hall of Names’ holds about 2.7 million original Pages of Testimony. They also have portraits of Holocaust victims from different countries and backgrounds who disappeared.

    So deniers, this is all proof that millions went missing, I am still waiting for the evidence of where all those Jewish people went after arriving at the six death camps. There are also the ones who were forced on death marches, the ones forced into barns and burnt, the ones forced into ravines and shot, the ones put into trucks and suffocated by carbon monoxide. You deny the Nazi’s didn’t do any of this — yet you can’t provide any information, documents, pictures, testimonies from these millions of Jews that they weren’t murdered. If you can’t produce any, then you are lying and it’s not little white lies, it’s despicable disgusting hate ridden lies.
     
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    HC deniers and Nazis are the true Anti-Germans.
    They want to take Germany back to an evil past that it has long since overcome.

    Please don't try to portray HC deniers as victims, Mr. Grau! :(
     
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    The Holocaust Deniers believe that they simply stopped identifying as Jews, or the estimated European Jewish population was absurdly inflated. Or they all secretly migrated to Israel or the USSR and their numbers are being kept secret by the Jewish Conspiracy.

    ;)
     
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    Its true, Holocaust Deniers want to make Nazism respectable again, so they can once again persecute the Jews and finish Hitler's work.
     
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    I can only equate holocaust deniers with the word ‘morons’.
     
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    I never understood why Nazis are so fixated on Jews?

    I don't like Jews either. Most of them are arrogant weirdos (according to my experience), but that's no reason to kill them. :(
     
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    Hitler's obsessive hatred of the Jewish people was truly sick. We should all be reminded of just how much hatred he was full of. And none of these quotes does he mention communism or zionism. He just hated Jews. Sure, he liked a few select Jews who helped his family, and he was forced to keep some half Jews and maybe even some full Jews in the military, because unlike him the military did actually have a sense of honor and loyalty towards decent people. But besides those folks Hitler hated all Jews. If he had won the war there would be very few Jews left in Europe.
     
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    This is one shining example of how Holocaust deniers distort reality to fit their narrative. This is the original caption for the picture: "Polish prisoners in Dachau toast their liberation from the camp."

    Polish prisoners. Polish. Not Jews. Poles.

    Source: https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Dachau_concentration_camp
     
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    If Hitler wanted all Jews exterminated, why were there 150,000 full and mixed Jews in his military with many earning Germany's highest honors and reaching Germany's highest ranks?

    All this happened with the full knowledge and approval of Hitler and the German High Command and the men were not lowly conscripts but officers, Generals (2) and even high ranking Nazi Party members.

    If there really was a genocidal German agenda against all Jews, why were so many Jews and part Jews in these high ranking positions?



    (1). “Hitler’s Jewish Army”
    http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/...-hitlers-army/

    EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval.

    In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

    Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos).

    So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism? ”CONTINUED



    (2). "Historian claims Hitler personally approved officers of Jewish descent to fight for Nazis"

    ADOLF HITLER personally allowed at least 77 army officers of Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause…

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/his...-of-jewish-descent-to-fight-for-nazis-1.58495

    EXCERPT "Many brothers, cousins and sons of these officers were not on this list, although they should have been there," he wrote. "The list is very spotty and there are most probably many other cases of this type."

    The most senior general of Jewish origin was Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who rose to be general inspector of the Luftwaffe and was convicted of war crimes after 1945." CONTINUED


    (3). “List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

    EXCERPT “Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent. “ CONTINUED
     
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    Its true, Holocaust Deniers are notorious for lying and stretching the truth, smoke & mirrors, in order to push their lies & pro-Nazi propaganda.
     
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    But the Nazis ARE the true victims!!!

    Just like the Afrikaners, the Jim Crow Southerners. They were the true victims too.

    :)
     
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    First, I don't deny that the Holocaust happened. I just reject the bigoted anti German embellishments.

    Secondly, why does it matter if the men in the photo were Jewish or not. You turn a tragic facet of WW 2 into some sort of contest.
     
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    I already answered your question days ago.

    If you would take a break from slandering others you may have noticed.

    According to Jewish sources, 6 million Jews did not get killed which should be good news.

    EXCERPT "The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanac's figures were supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Next the Jewish-owned New York Times of February 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000 in addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine." How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?"CONTINUED. (1)



    (1). "Was there Really a Holocaust?"
    https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/unsorted/WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST.htm
     
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