Hitler's hatred of the Jews (part 2)

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  1. Ronstar

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    Hitler clearly hated the Jews. ALL Jews. Old, young, rich, poor, Zionist, Socialist.

    Its all there in Mein Kampf. Sad, pathetic, that he was such an obsessed, irrational bigot.

    http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200601.txt

    -The great leaders of Jewry are confident that the day is near at hand when the command given in the Old Testament will be carried out and the Jews will devour the other nations of the earth.

    -The People's State, which I have tried to sketch in general outline, will not become a reality in virtue of the simple fact that we know the indispensable conditions of its existence. It does not suffice to know what aspect such a State would present. The problem of its foundation is far more important. The parties which exist at present and which draw their profits from the State as it now is cannot be expected to bring about a radical change in the regime or to change their attitude on their own initiative. This is rendered all the more impossible because the forces which now have the direction of affairs in their hands are
    Jews here and Jews there and Jews everywhere. The trend of development which we are now experiencing would, if allowed to go on unhampered, lead to the realization of the Pan-Jewish prophecy that the Jews will one day devour the other nations and become lords of the earth.

    -The constructive principle of Aryan humanity is thus displaced by the destructive principle of the Jews, They become the 'ferment of decomposition' among nations and races and, in a broad sense, the wreckers of human civilization.

    -The bourgeois world is Marxist but believes in the possibility of a certain group of people--that is to say, the bourgeoisie--being able to dominate the world, while Marxism itself systematically aims at delivering the world into the hands of the Jews.

    -Russia furnishes the most terrible example of such a slavery. In that country the Jew killed or starved thirty millions of the people, in about of savage fanaticism and partly by the employment of inhuman torture. And he did this so that a gang of Jewish literati and financial bandits should dominate over a great people. But the final consequence is not merely that the people lose all their freedom under the domination of the Jews, but that in the end these parasites themselves disappear. The death of the victim is followed sooner or later by that of the vampire.

    -The black-haired Jewish youth lies in wait for hours on end, satanically glaring at and spying on the unsuspicious girl whom he plans to seduce, adulterating her blood and removing her from the bosom of her own people. The Jew uses every possible means to undermine the racial foundations of a subjugated people. In his systematic efforts to ruin girls and women he strives to break down the last barriers of discrimination between him and other peoples. The Jews were responsible for bringing negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardizing the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate. For as long as a people remain racially pure and are conscious of the treasure of their blood, they can never be overcome by the Jew. Never in this world can the Jew become master of any people except a bastardized people.


    -That is why the Jew systematically endeavours to lower the racial quality of a people by permanently adulterating the blood of the individuals who make up that people.

    -When the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the new national consciousness of the Jews will be satisfied by the establishment of a Jewish State in Palestine, the Jews thereby adopt another means to dupe the simple-minded Gentile. They have not the slightest intention of building up a Jewish State in Palestine so as to live in it. What they really are aiming at is to establish a central organization for their international swindling and cheating. As a sovereign State, this cannot be controlled by any of the other States. Therefore it can serve as a refuge for swindlers who have been found out and at the same time a high-school for the training of other swindlers.

    -The Jewish instinct, which never fails where these problems have to be dealt with, readily discerns the true mentality of those whom the Jew meets in everyday life; and those who are not of a kindred spirit with him may be sure of being listed among his enemies. Since the Jew is not the object of aggression but the aggressor himself, he considers as his enemies not only those who attack him but also those who may be capable of resisting him. The means which he employs to break people of this kind, who may show themselves decent and upright, are not the open means generally used in honourable conflict, but falsehood and calumny.


    -He will stop at nothing. His utterly low-down conduct is so appalling that one really cannot be surprised if in the imagination of our people the Jew is pictured as the incarnation of Satan and the symbol of evil.


    -The ignorance of the broad masses as regards the inner character of the Jew, and the lack of instinct and insight that our upper classes display, are some of the reasons which explain how it is that so many people fall an easy prey to the systematic campaign of falsehood which the Jew carries on.


    -No; the Jews have not the creative abilities which are necessary to the
    founding of a civilization; for in them there is not, and never has been, that spirit of idealism which is an absolutely necessary element in the higher development of mankind. Therefore the Jewish intellect will never be constructive but always destructive.

    -In order to form a correct judgment of the place which the Jew holds in relation to the whole problem of human civilization, we must bear in mind the essential fact that there never has been any Jewish art and consequently that nothing of this kind exists to-day. We must realize that especially in those two royal domains of art, namely architecture and music, the Jew has done no original creative work. When the Jew comes to producing something in the field of art he merely bowdler-izes something already in existence or simply steals the intellectual word, of others. The Jew essentially lacks those qualities which are characteristic of those creative races that are the founders of civilization.

    That is why the Jewish people, despite the intellectual powers with which they are apparently endowed, have not a culture--certainly not a culture of their own. The culture which the Jew enjoys to-day is the product of the work of others and this product is debased in the hands of the Jew.

    -If the Jews were the only people in the world they would be wallowing in filth and mire and would exploit one another and try to exterminate one another in a bitter struggle, except in so far as their utter lack of the ideal of sacrifice, which shows itself in their cowardly spirit, would prevent this struggle from developing.

    -It is much the same with the Jew. His spirit of sacrifice is only apparent. It manifests itself only so long as the existence of the individual makes this a matter of absolute necessity. But as soon as the common foe is conquered and the danger which threatened the individual
    Jews is overcome and the prey secured, then the apparent harmony disappears and the original conditions set in again. Jews act in concord only when a common danger threatens them or a common prey attracts them. Where these two motives no longer exist then the most brutal egotism appears and these people who before had lived together in unity will
    turn into a swarm of rats that bitterly fight against each other.

    -For, though among the Jews the instinct of self-preservation has not
    been weaker but has been much stronger than among other peoples, and
    though the impression may easily be created that the intellectual powers
    of the Jew are at least equal to those of other races, the Jews
    completely lack the most essential pre-requisite of a cultural people,
    namely the idealistic spirit. With the Jewish people the readiness for
    sacrifice does not extend beyond the simple instinct of individual
    preservation. In their case the feeling of racial solidarity which they
    apparently manifest is nothing but a very primitive gregarious instinct,
    similar to that which may be found among other organisms in this world.
    It is a remarkable fact that this herd instinct brings individuals
    together for mutual protection only as long as there is a common danger
    which makes mutual assistance expedient or inevitable. The same pack of
    wolves which a moment ago joined together in a common attack on their
    victim will dissolve into individual wolves as soon as their hunger has
    been satisfied. This is also sure of horses, which unite to defend
    themselves against any aggressor but separate the moment the danger is
    over.

    -But in Munich conditions were far worse. After my discharge from
    hospital, I was sent to a reserve battalion there. I felt as in some
    strange town. Anger, discontent, complaints met one's ears wherever one
    went. To a certain extent this was due to the infinitely maladroit
    manner in which the soldiers who had returned from the front were
    treated by the non-commissioned officers who had never seen a day's
    active service and who on that account were partly incapable of adopting
    the proper attitude towards the old soldiers. Naturally those old
    soldiers displayed certain characteristics which had been developed from
    the experiences in the trenches. The officers of the reserve units could
    not understand these peculiarities, whereas the officer home from active
    service was at least in a position to understand them for himself. As a
    result he received more respect from the men than officers at the home
    headquarters. But, apart from all this, the general spirit was
    deplorable. The art of shirking was looked upon as almost a proof of
    higher intelligence, and devotion to duty was considered a sign of
    weakness or bigotry. Government offices were staffed by Jews. Almost
    every clerk was a Jew and every Jew was a clerk. I was amazed at this
    multitude of combatants who belonged to the chosen people and could not
    help comparing it with their slender numbers in the fighting lines.

    -In the business world the situation was even worse. Here the Jews had
    actually become 'indispensable'. Like leeches, they were slowly sucking
    the blood from the pores of the national body.

    -Now, the truth is that the State in itself has nothing whatsoever to do
    with any definite economic concept or a definite economic development.
    It does not arise from a compact made between contracting parties,
    within a certain delimited territory, for the purpose of serving
    economic ends. The State is a community of living beings who have
    kindred physical and spiritual natures, organized for the purpose of
    assuring the conservation of their own kind and to help towards
    fulfilling those ends which Providence has assigned to that particular
    race or racial branch. Therein, and therein alone, lie the purpose and
    meaning of a State. Economic activity is one of the many auxiliary means
    which are necessary for the attainment of those aims. But economic
    activity is never the origin or purpose of a State, except where a State
    has been originally founded on a false and unnatural basis. And this
    alone explains why a State as such does not necessarily need a certain
    delimited territory as a condition of its establishment. This condition
    becomes a necessary pre-requisite only among those people who would
    provide and assure subsistence for their kinsfolk through their own
    industry, which means that they are ready to carry on the struggle for
    existence by means of their own work. People who can sneak their way,
    like parasites, into the human body politic and make others work for
    them under various pretences can form a State without possessing any
    definite delimited territory. This is chiefly applicable to that
    parasitic nation which, particularly at the present time preys upon the
    honest portion of mankind; I mean the Jews.

    -In my eyes the charge against Judaism became a grave one the moment I
    discovered the Jewish activities in the Press, in art, in literature and
    the theatre. All unctuous protests were now more or less futile. One
    needed only to look at the posters announcing the hideous productions of
    the cinema and theatre, and study the names of the authors who were
    highly lauded there in order to become permanently adamant on Jewish
    questions. Here was a pestilence, a moral pestilence, with which the
    public was being infected. It was worse than the Black Plague of long
    ago. And in what mighty doses this poison was manufactured and
    distributed. Naturally, the lower the moral and intellectual level of
    such an author of artistic products the more inexhaustible his
    fecundity. Sometimes it went so far that one of these fellows, acting
    like a sewage pump, would shoot his filth directly in the face of other
    members of the human race. In this connection we must remember there is
    no limit to the number of such people. One ought to realize that for
    one, Goethe, Nature may bring into existence ten thousand such
    despoilers who act as the worst kind of germ-carriers in poisoning human
    souls. It was a terrible thought, and yet it could not be avoided, that
    the greater number of the Jews seemed specially destined by Nature to
    play this shameful part.
     
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    a terrible indictment and a national disgrace that this thread is necessary. and the "conservative" response is to "teach less history?"
     
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    why are you posting this crap again ronstar?
     
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    It's important for people to understand how evil and disgusting Hitler's bigotry was.

    Do you prefer we ignore it? Make believe it didn't happen?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's important for the world to be reminded how evil bigotry can be.
     
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    Absolutely.

    My mum, who is 87, recently lost one of her oldest and dearest friends. I think her friend was 91 or so when she died. The reason I’m mentioning this is because she was one of the Jewish children saved by the Kindertransport. She was taken to England in 1938 and placed with her ‘new’ family. She never saw her parents, uncles, aunts, grandparents again because they were all murdered due to Hitler’s policies. She used to talk about this and it was way more real hearing about it from a real person rather than reading a history book. Most of the people who were directly affected by Hitler’s bigotry are dead and so all one can depend on is the history books. It’s really sad that there are people that deny this bigotry. Hitler is THE example of how evil bigotry can be. Judging by some on this forum, many are entirely comfortable with being bigots. Perhaps, if they were the targets of hatred themselves they might change their views. Maybe they just can’t fathom that one man was responsible for murdering over six million people because he personally hated them.
     
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    Agreed. Sometimes it can be terrible to learn about such horrible bigotry but I think the only thing worse would be to ignore it. That's a recipe for having to learn the lesson again.

    :(
     
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    Historical facts are not "crap."
     
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    Thats not logical since hitler had over 150,000 Jews in his armed forces and some of them were generals!

    He also set up old age camps, and camps for Jewish service veterans.


    1. https://www.latimes.com › archives › la-xpm-1996-12-24-mn-12209-story.html
      The Jews in Hitler's Military - Los Angeles Times
      The Jews in Hitler's Military By WILLIAM D. MONTALBANO Dec. 24, 1996 12 AM PT TIMES STAFF WRITER LONDON — Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of mission, American Bryan Rigg...


    2. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org › content › en › article › the-german-military-and-the-holocaust
    3. 10 Jews Who Fought In Hitler's Nazi Army - Listverse
      fact checked by Jamie Frater Roughly 150,000 men of Jewish descent fought in Hitler's army. While their families back home were being corralled into ghettos and sent off to death camps, these men were in Poland, France, or Russia, spreading the fascist system that was killing their people across Europe.



    4. https://www.haaretz.com › 2003-10-30 › ty-article › historian-nazi-army-included-150-000-of-jewish-descent › 0000017f-db28-df62-a9ff-dfff0b4c0000
      Historian: Nazi Army Included 150,000 of Jewish Descent
      Oct 30, 2003 BERLIN - As many as 150,000 men of Jewish descent served in the German military under Adolf Hitler, some with the Nazi leader's explicit consent, a U.S. historian who has interviewed hundreds of former soldiers said on Thursday.


      This is common knowledge by all historians.
    So how do you come off saying that Hitler hated all the Jews?
     
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    How many of those Jews were hiding their heritage and how many were legally classified as mixed-race rather than Jews? I'm sorry, but Nazi laws CLEARLY removed citizenship from those they classified as Jews and barred them from almost every public office.
     
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    1. https://www.bbc.com › news › world-europe-46192941
      Hitler's young Jewish friend - BBC News
      13 November 2018 Alexander Historical Auctions At first glance, the picture of the man hugging the beaming young girl appears to show a scene of great happiness. But a closer look reveals a far...


    2. https://www.washingtonpost.com › history › 2018 › 11 › 13 › the-fuhrers-child-how-hitler-came-adore-girl-with-jewish-roots
      Photo of Hitler hugging Jewish girl Rosa Bernile Nienau sells at ...
      Nov 13, 2018November 13, 2018 at 4:54 p.m. EST Adolf Hitler embraces Rosa Bernile Nienau, then about 6, at his mountainside Bavarian retreat in 1933. He refused to cut off contact with her even after he was...


    3. https://forward.com › culture › 414182 › hitlers-jewish-sweetheart-was-a-7-year-old-girl
      Hitler's Jewish 'Sweetheart' Was A 7-Year Old Girl
      Hitler's Jewish 'Sweetheart' Was A 7-Year Old Girl Rosa Bernile Nienau and Adolf Hitler pose for a picture on April 20, 1933. It was her seventh birthday and his 44th. Nienau pressed...

      https://www.bbc.co.uk › news › world-europe-46192941


    ‘The Führer’s child’: How Hitler came to embrace a girl with Jewish roots
    A jarring 1933 photo of Hitler hugging 6-year-old Rosa Bernile Nienau just sold at auction for $11,000.

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    Im sorry Ron but this does not look like hatred to me!

    His advisors insisted he stop being phtographed with the little girl to insure it did not get out into the public domain.

    Now after all these years the pic surfaced.

    Explain please how this can be "HATRED" of Jews?
     
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    Why did his party platform remove citizenship from all Jews?
     
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    Most of those people were not Jews according to German law. They were Mischlinge.
     
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    I've tried to teach them that word before. Doesn't seem to ever stick.
     
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    So he hated Jewish politics? So what?
    you seem to believe others like yourself have the legal authority to dictate German law and public policy.
    America bans naturalized citizens from becoming president, does that mean we hate immigrants?
    Every country has the right to determine their own law.
     
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    So you think it's okay for a country to strip hundreds of thousands of people of their citizenship simply due to their ethnicity and religion? Wow.

    I hope this never happens to you and your family.
     
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    If he hated "Jewish politics" then why remove citizenship from all Jews based on bloodline instead of politics? I look forward to you running and hiding from the question again.
     
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    So then the fact they were Jewish or the Jewish part of their nationality evaporated because the Germans used a different word and classification for them?
    What nationality did that make them?
     
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    Indeed all Jews lost their citizenship regardless of what political party they belong to or voted for.
     
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    They orchesrated the treaty of Versailles and did it to the Germans first, what gave them the right to do that?
     
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    @Kokomojojo can't address that historical fact, but I've asked him to several times.
     
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    Thats patently false.
    They had the option to become sterilzed if they wanted to remain a German citizen.
    What does this have to do with hate?
    How the government is run is politics!
     
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    Mischlinge were still citizens of Germany but had restricted rights. They could have no more than two Jewish grandparents and they had to both be male. Even if you had converted to Christianity and were a devout Christian you were still considered Mischlinge due to your grandparents.

    And of course a Jew who converted to Christianity was still considered a Jew according to the Nuremberg Laws, and was persecuted as a Jew.
     
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    That is baseless and false. There is no evidence that German Jews could retain their citizenship if they agreed to be sterilized.

    And even if that was true that would be a pretty bigoted policy.
     
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    You failed to address mine so putting it that way we are even.
     
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