Joe Rogan Challenges Vaccine Researcher Peter Hotez to Debate RFK - Then Elon Steps Into the Mix

So?

 

Your reply doesn't have anything to do with what you replied to...

 

Which reply?

 

Is there some point to you replying to my post? I told you the truth of the matter and then you went off on some tangent about "anti-vaccine paranoia".

Yes, dictator Biden did attempt to impose a mandate on private employers and it failed.

 

And you don't think that's effed up? So when the next pandemic comes around, we can't do anything because certain people will get the willies and a jab because the government is "evil".

 

What I think is effed up is that the government thought that they had the ability to dictate what private employers could or could not do to begin with.

And evidently the courts agreed. Cuz evidently the judge actually respects people's freedom of medical choice.

You think that because you have a job somewhere that that gives the government the right to force your employer to force you to submit to unnecessary vaccines?

 

Please try to keep up ...with your own conversation

Are you, or are you not, disputing the notion that govt attempted to coerce vaccinations by imposing mandates upon employers to require vaccination of their employees?

 

Good luck getting a straight answer

 

So what do you intend to do with the next pandemic? Same thing?

 

Based on how many years of your medical expertise?

 

I asked a question that you neglected to answer. Answer mine, then I'll answer yours. Thats how a discussion works.

 

How many years of medical expertise do you have?

 

None. That's why I trust the experts and the institutions.

 

No. I don't deny it. I expected it.

You see, I live in CA and our state tends to be pretty on top of that, so I don't know where federal and state mandates fit into the CA scene. All I know is that when I started working for a new company in 2021, I was given the option of working from home, but I had already done that, so I chose to go into the office. They did ask if I was vaccinated, and I was, so I see no problem with the company I work for, or the pandemic protocols, which we lifted in 2022.

So I really don't understand this solidarity you had with your employer over the mandates. I just hope that your company does not deal with external employees or contractors, assuming of course every employee in your company shares your view.

 

Like the guy that kills puppies and lies to Congress? An expert like that?

 

I have no credentials..this is why I tend to agree with those that do..

13 billion Covid vaccines safely administered kinda tells me I listened to the right people

not some guy with podcast

 

I wasn't aware RFK had a podcast... do you have link? I'll add it to my list.

Just out of curiosity, what percentage of injury would you consider a product to be 'safe'? 1%? .1%? .0001% I'm looking for an objective number here. And be careful now... I might find a way to relate your answer with gun control

 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rfk-jr-podcast/id1552000243

And not sure if I can answer your other question ..

but anything given 13 BILLION times is close enough for me

 

I got a Webster's from 1960.

"Vaccine- adj, 1. of, pertaining to, or derived from cows. 2. Of or pertaining to vaccinia or vaccination

-noun, 1. Matter or a preparation containing the virus of cowpox, or vaccinia, in a form used for vaccination. 2. In general, any substance for preventive inoculation, esp. a suspension of sensitized, attenuated, or killed bacteria, called preferably a bacterial vaccine, injected into the body to produce immunity to the same species of bacteria or their toxins."

This covid shot is not a vaccine. Calling it a vaccine is like calling a snowmobile a sled. If you ain't never seen a snowmobile you might think you know what a sled is, but you are wrong.

 

Democrats don't love America, but you do? If you care so much, how come you aren't pushing to do something about this...?

 

If it concerns you so, why are you as an individual not "doing something about it"?

 

Chase your own off topic rabbits.

 

Did you really think you spew this nonsense in your seeder and go unchallenged?

 

I would like to point out your source misrepresented the study cited. Your source claims a 61% protection against infection for the bivalent. This is not true. The study showed 61% protection against hospitalization and death, not infection.


From the actual study:

I would encourage you to have as much skepticism of your preferred sources as you do of Rogan, etc. Most of what you seem to believe about Rogan is actually false. As false as the claim by your source the bivalent is 61% effective against infection.

I suggest you actually listen to folks like Rogan and RFKj because what you are being told about them is not accurate. Nor is what you are being told about Covid vaccines.

A recent peer reviewed study of healthcare workers shows what I warned of starting in October of 2021 may actually be happening now—multiple vaccinations actually decreasing protection.

https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/10/6/ofad209/7131292?login=false

I have posted quite a lot about annual influenza vaccination decreasing the efficacy of subsequent influenza vaccinations, especially in the aged. Here are links to some.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1073002821/

This thread contains a long detailed look at the phenomenon in a discussion between myself and Centerfield. I believe the meat of the discussion begins on this page and continues for several pages.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ty-newest-study.593701/page-5#post-1073043895

Don’t forget I’m not against Covid vaccines or vaccines in general. I just like openness and honesty about effectiveness and risks.

 

I'm retired, but I did for more than three decades of teaching high school students and adults how to start their own business. I also taught computer studies to high school students and adults. Fortunately, I made enough money before teaching that I didn't have to worry about the low pay.

As for schools--we should implement K-12 vouchers providing they're for enough money that even dirt poor parents who can't supplement the voucher to find s good private school.