Joe Rogan Challenges Vaccine Researcher Peter Hotez to Debate RFK - Then Elon Steps Into the Mix

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  1. Zorro

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    'Joe Rogan Challenges Vaccine Researcher Peter Hotez to Debate RFK - Then Elon Steps Into the Mix'

    This is what our Liberal Constitutional Democracy is supposed to look like. The free exchange of ideas vigorously debate on public forums!

    https://redstate.com/nick-arama/202...e-rfk-jr-then-elon-steps-into-the-mix-n763379

    Bobby Kennedy is a Democrat who is deeply in love with this Great Nation and dearly loves Americans, this used to be a very normal aspect the Democrat Party, the Democrat Party would greatly benefit itself if it returned to a place where they could once again love America and love Americans.

    Robert F. Kennedy fearlessly and with great willingness and enthusiasm, 'challenges the democrat orthodoxy and he is not quiet about it.' They respond to such 'blasphemy' with attempts at excommunication, which doesn't bother Bobby Kennedy at all. 'I think the Biden team is a little bit scared of him, which is one of the reasons they don’t want to have a debate with him. He’s got the Kennedy name, he’s a lightning rod, and he’s about ten times smarter than Joe, with the ability to put together a coherent sentence.'

    Yes, on a debate state with Bobby Kennedy, it will become quickly clear that Bribed Biden is somewhat of a drooler and a mouth-breather.

    'RFK Jr. recently appeared on Joe Rogan’s podcast. He also spoke about vaccinations, and that ticked off vaccine scientist Peter Hotez, who didn’t like the fact that Rogan had Kennedy on to spread vaccine “misinformation,” and he tweeted a story that attacked Spotify for running the interview.'

    As is the case with too much of the Left, rather than meet speech with well resourced points, they instead, whine, scream, throw a tantrum and demand excommunication.

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    Robert F. Kenney is probably the top environmental lawyer in the nation and was key to holding Monsanto to account for Round Up, and he got much of the mercury removed from childhood vaccines, that is, he is very skilled at developing and delivering an intelligent well-reasoned argument, that is easily followed by a lay person.

    A fed up Joe Rogan 'threw down the gauntlet offering Hotez, who he’s had on his show, $100,000 to come on the podcast and debate RFK Jr., with no time limit.'

    'Peter, if you claim what RFK is saying is “misinformation” I am offering you $100,000.00 to the charity of your choice if you’re willing to debate him on my show with no time limit.'

    RFK quickly accepted: 'Peter. Let’s finally have the respectful,congenial,informative debate that the American people deserve.'

    Elon Musk quickly jumped in voicing his support of a Free People's Open Honest Debate.

    Hotez sidestepped.

    Joe Rogan called him on it: 'This is a non answer. I challenged you publicly because you publicly quote tweeted and agreed with that dogshit vice article. If you’re really serious about what you stand for, you now have a massive opportunity for a debate that will reach the largest audience a discussion like this has ever had. If you think someone else is better qualified, suggest that person.'

    'Hotez that demanded $50 million for the challenge and an apology from RFK.'

    Musk Jumps In: 'He’s afraid of a public debate, because he knows he’s wrong.'

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    Hotez reduced to impotent name-calling: In May Hotez claimed 'that Rogan was part of a neo-fascist coalition involving Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, and RFK. Talk about conspiracy theories.'

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    What is it that he hopes Biden is planning to do? Shut down free speech by executive order?

    Every single one of the Free Thinkers that Hotez slanders as "fascists" 'support free speech and are willing to stand by what they believe.'

    Another notes: 'It boggles the mind that people think it's reasonable to suppress discussion about the topic of vaccines, when nearly the entire global population was given the ultimatum between taking it or losing their job.'

    And that's after 7 million dead from the medical industry deliberately weaponizing a virus that was harmless to humans, into one that is deadly to humans, and continues to kill at the rate of 150 people a day, and will likely continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

    Please discuss.
     
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    I'd sure like to see you prove that one.
     
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    Good point. It was a quote, and I was thinking of the US and Bribed Joe's unconstitutional attempt to mandate vaccination via OSHA, but, I really don't know about the rest of the world, or what percentage of them were under mandate.
     
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    are you saying nobody was fired over the vax? get real.
     
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    Did I say that?

    I asked for proof of the quoted text. You seem to be adding stuff I did not say.
     
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    As I recall, it was for certain Federal employees.
     
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    That isn't the way I took @Lucifer 's claim. He clearly read the post, saw a testable point:

    'It boggles the mind that people think it's reasonable to suppress discussion about the topic of vaccines, when nearly the entire global population was given the ultimatum between taking it or losing their job.'

    And challenged it. That to me is proper debate, and it cause me to take another look at it. In the US, everyone who works for an employer with 100 or more people, everyone who worked for government, military, healthcare, were all under Biden's unconstitutional mandate, until it was struck by the Court, so, I think that statement is accurate for the US, but, is it accurate for the world?

    I don't know.
     
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    LOL! Anti-vaxxers unite. These guys deserve each other.
     
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    MERCILESS, receipt-filled thread takes vaccine expert Peter Hotez who
    pushed to censor Joe Rogan, APART

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    'Professor Peter Hotze MD PhD, vaccine specialist, pushed for Spotify to censor Joe Rogan over his commentary on vaccines, specifically the COVID vaccine. He also seems very perturbed about what RFK Jr. had to say on the topic.'

    '1/ @PeterHotez has been spreading lies from the beginning. For example, he advocated in May 2021 for vaccinating children to achieve herd immunity. His narrative was uncritically pushed by the mainstream media.'

    There is no herd immunity. That was a lie.

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    And look at who lines his pockets:

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    Therefore, it's unsurprising that he rejects the current 1.5 million-dollar bid and refuses to debate with @RobertKennedyJr. That's because he stands no chance against the facts.

    '6/18 9am EST UPDATE
    The Peter Hotez vs. RFK Jr Charity Debate Pot Is Now Over $1.52 MILLION!! Here is the Leaderboard:

    1) $500k - @Cobratate
    2) $250k - @realnickmugalli
    3) $150k - @billackman
    4) $100k - @joerogan
    5) $100k - @patrickbetdavid
    6) $100k - @stkirsch
    7) $100k -…'

    RFK wiped the floor with Monsanto's doctors who claimed that Round Up wasn't dangerous to the health of those who used it, so of course, this Doctor is scared to death to try to defend his claims against Bobby Kennedy in a free debate.

    'Yet, the most dangerous aspect of Hotez is his use of language and the demonization of those with different views. He did not hesitate to label critical people as anti-science and anti-Semitic, even going so far as to demand that they be treated like terrorists. He stated...

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    Do you want to discuss vaccine safety rather than simply blindly accept their latest pronouncements as holy writ that you are compelled to obey? This totalitarian asshat wants law enforcement involved at that point!

    '"The task force should include experts who have tackled complex global threats such as terrorism because anti-science is now approaching similar levels of peril. It is becoming increasingly clear that advancing immunization requires a counteroffensive.”'

    You don't immediately and unquestioning accept a vaccine claim? This clown wants to treat you like a terrorist.

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    This is his easily obtained public record on this subject, RFK will eat his lunch and expose this charlatan quack for the opportunistic grifter authoritarian that he is.

    'In this very publication,
    @PeterHotez
    'even managed to integrate his hatred of Russia, which has absolutely nothing to do with the Covid vaccines, and his supposed witch-hunt against the "anti-scientists."'

    'As if this wasn't already enough, his latest publication unmasks the absurdity of his pseudo-scientific phantasm, stating that we need malnutrition vaccines. In Sept 2022, Hotez again was able to publish his mental diarrhoea in a high-impact journal.'

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    VACCINATE FOR ALL THE THINGS!

    ' Fun fact: Whenever someone criticized Hotez in the past, his friends and fellow believers came crawling out of the woodwork to discredit them as anti-Semites.'

    'the trope of "questioning science equals antisemitism," bit really lost me. Considering the egregious medical experimentation and scientific censorship that occurred during the Holocaust, I never could understand how Hotez made this connection. Or why any thinking person would repeat it.'

    'No wonder this guy doesn't want to debate. Wow.'
     
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    were they forced by the govenrment

    employers had the right to fire anyone they wanted during the pandemic if they felt they were putting other employees or their customers at risk

    also remember, the cost of covid fell on the employer if an employee got covid, time off, health care, life insurance, liability, etc... so the employee made their choice, the employer made theirs
     
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    I mean, who doesn’t want to see measles outbreaks return? RFKJr is a kook who is propped up by Republicans. It didn’t work with Tulsi and this won’t work either. Hell barely anybody remained at the end when he was on.

    Remember Bob’s 2005 article? Man he got humiliated with that piece of crap..
     
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...ndates-he-unveils-new-covid-strategy-n1278735
    Biden announces sweeping vaccine mandates affecting millions of workers
     
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    Fringe bs to attract viewers is Joe’s angle. “Free and Open Debate” hardly. Just payoffs in Spotify’s investment with nothing other than entertainment value. Rogan’s an asshat as is Elon as is RFK as is this other dude. Almost as bad as being a fan of talking head Rush Limbaugh who never did anything real in his life other than talk **** on the radio and act like he was delivering the working man’s truth.
     
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    for federal workers and contractors...... though that was reversed anyways

    they were not fired, just not allowed to work until the pandemic passed unless they were frequently tested of vaccinated, one or the other

    though that was reversed anyways
     
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    wasnt for lack of trying though, wasn't it.

    "we are not forcing you to get the vaccine that doesn't stop the spread of the virus. We are just going to not allow you to work which means you can't pay your bills or afford to eat"
     
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    Trump declared a national emergency and declared we were at war with an invisible enemy, the vaccine was helping save lives and get people back to work after the Trump shutdown and reopen guidelines
     
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    The vaccines didn't do much except slightly prevent the individual from getting super sick. That's it. It didn't prevent you from getting it, or spreading it. Trump was keeping the focus and blame on exactly where it belonged, China.



    Which I'm sure that after years down the road and the reality sinks in to the point you can't deny it anylonger you too will agree it came from - CHI-NA! -
     
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    Instead of on covid.
     
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    Good for Rogan, RFK, and Musk. They are doing what the MSM should be doing.
     
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    I dunno about the globe, but thats how it was presented to me.

    Boss said our clients (mostly city govts) were going to mandate contractors be vaccinated and thus there wouldnt be much work I could do if I didnt get vaccinated. I said I'd bend over backwards with testing and ppe if necessary but no gene therapy shot for me. Boss said 'I guess we'll wait and see.'

    And indeed our biggest client at the time did mandate vaccination for contractors (and their own employees, with the exemption of a few powerful unions). We were informed to submit vaccination records for our employees, and I didn't do that... and then nothing happened. I kept doing my job, no one pushed the issue, and as far as I know its all still up in the air and forgotten about.
     
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    Bring back measles, tetanus, rubella, and mumps?

    Oh yeah don’t forget the 5G cancer causing and spy service. Another RFKJr gem.

    The best is vaccines aren’t good for your kid, but perfect for his!
     
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    Employees at Fox needed to show proof of vax in order to go to work in the building.
     
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    Consider yourself lucky.

    A couple of months ago I went on a date with a teacher. The date itself was pleasant, but I could tell she was probably a MAGA follower, and she was definitely an anti-vaxer. She confessed that she got let go from the county's school district because she refused to get vaccinated, so she wound up at another school district working part-time.

    I did not ask her out for another date.
     
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    So you would agree that, if not 'global', it was common enough for ppl to be mandated to vaccinate by their employer that I'm 'lucky' to have kept my job.

    ...which means your contention with the Ops claim of 'global' is merely a technicality of terminology, not of concept.
     
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