Gun safe company hit with backlash for providing FBI with code to customer's safe

It isn't all that difficult to break into a gun safe. An abrasive wheel applied to the side of safe can get the job done in a few minutes. If they had valid court order then it is just a matter of asking the invetigatee to choose between unlocking the safe or standing clear of the sparks. I have a gun safe. The door is substantial. The rest of it is mild sheet steel.

 

If the feds demanded you to open up your email for them because they had a search warrant for my house, would you comply?

 

Sure, I doubt they would have time to dig through all the spam. I get about 500 spam emails per day. I sure don't have time to read them.

 

Here is the issue-the FBI warrant allowed them to search the premises. Maybe even force open the safe. The warrant did not apply to the safe company and did not give the FBI the power to make the safe company provide the codes.

 

Liberty Safe was not served with a warrant or subpoena.
The owner of the safe was.
Liberty is under no legal requirement to comply with that warrant.

 

A warrant served in the owner of the safe.
You are under no legal obligation to comply with a warrant served on someone else.

 

But there is no deep state.

 

why would they protect someone that did what happened on jan 6th?

Republicans are like.... snitches get stitches

what I would take from this, is never buy a safe with a combination you can't change

 

That doesn’t make any sense. Now if I had a package addressed to you and they had a warrant for the contents of said package — I would 100% give it to them.

 

They would have to have a warrant for your home, to search for the suspect package.

They can't swear out a warrant for a single object, then search any property they want, looking for it.

 

Because he has rights...lol.

 

The poster asked what I would do.
I responded with what I would do.

 

You would let the government break the law?

Wait! Of course you would...lol

 

he does not have a right to control what the Gun safe company does with their information

 

let's examine that argument

You buy safe. there is an implied contract that would be violated if the safe company broadcast publicly what the combination is.

 

I 100% agree with giving the code when a search warrant is provided

 

on who?

 

Even if the company wasn't required to, by law?

 

He has a right to privacy and the safe company had an obligation to protect that right.

 

it's an implied contractual duty

 

sure, had he not stormed the Capital he would have, but the State got a warrant for the safe, it was now in possession of the State

 

If there is warrant I totally agree. I will say it again if needed. I believe in due process and if they have a warrant I’m 100% okay with it. It’s not an infringement because at that point they had legal right to the search. I’m a staunch gun supporter because I believe in the constitution and if they went the constitutional path to search then yes I’m okay with it all day long.

plus being there was a warrant I say give them the code just to save the safe.

 

Just so you know, liberty safe doesn't manufacture the locking mechanism That is another company and liberty just installs them. digital locks also have a master code that you can have deleted. also you can call the company and have them removed.

I think this really underscores the lack of privacy. companies have way too much access to way too much of our information. there needs to be legislation protecting privacy.

 

Agreed but their compliance to sell out their customers should cost them.

they first need to determine if the home owner had access to the safe before they can open it. if it is not his safe the contents are out of bounds. this is a fourth amendment issue. if they do determine he had access to it then they can cut it open. liberty told all of their customers they will voluntarily **** them in the ass if the FBI asks real nice. This should be a mortal wound to their business. it is called a safe.

I will never understand why people want to brown nose the most incompetent of police.

 

If I had a room with a locked door and the police had a warrant to search my house, can I deny them access to that locked room?