Gun safe company hit with backlash for providing FBI with code to customer's safe

No, but it's very easy to guess, given the circumstances, and what the alleged crime was for.

How about you show there was adequate reason, instead of putting the burden on us?

 

You’re the one claiming there wasn’t enough evidence.

 

It is pretty amazing that after 40 years of the left decrying Law Enforcement abuse (be it the patriot act, unlawful orders demanding to be enforced, overly agressive policing) and being continuously derided as "if you're not with us you are for the terrorists", "soft on crime", "why didn't that person just comply with the LEO's command (even though it was unlawful)". Now that you FEEEEEeeeeeeel you are being targeted all of a sudden ALL law enforcement is suspect and out to get you.
Pathetic.

8 years ago Trump was trying to hurt a private company for not changing it's products to government specifications to assist law enforcement. Now you guys are trying to punish a company for assisting law enforcement against criminals. That is just too rich

 

more than just a protest, had he stayed outside and protested with those that stayed outside, he would be fine sounds like

https://www.4029tv.com/article/fayetteville-man-arrested-for-jan-6-attack/44964664

"FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. —

An Arkansas man has been arrested on felony and misdemeanor charges for his involvement in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. A release from the FBI says Nathan Earl Hughes of Fayetteville is charged with a felony offense of civil disorder."

"The release says court documents allege Hughes pushed against a police line and helped rioters fight police in an attempt to breach the Capitol building. He was also seen "using his elbow to strike in the direction of police." The release says this was all caught on surveillance video."

 

it's weird, I have a safe, but it's to keep the criminals out and documents safe in case of fire.... keeping the cops out never crossed my mind

 

Is there any evidence that he committed "felony" civil disorder, other than the fact that he went inside?

(And are we even sure he went inside after the police decided to close the building to public visitors?)

 

according to the article, there is video evidence - you snipped that part of my post out though for some reason

 

Frankly, I don't like the idea of a safe company putting backdoor passcodes into their safes.

 

yeah, I was wondering same thing, is this a safe where you can't change the code, or where they had a backdoor built in

 

On one hand, I can see why folks could get mad at the company.

But on the other hand, since the government would have just gotten the warrant they needed(assuming they weren't already legally compelled as the OP says), the company would have had to comply eventually anyway and the same end result would have occurred.

Plus, if this didn't involve one of the Jan 6th morons, I have my doubts we would have even heard a peep about this from the peanut gallery.

 

What's that have to do with this thread?...lol

 

from post #1 - same person right, what this threat is about? did you think you were in a different thread?

""Last week, a friend of ours was raided by the feds over J6, his name is Nathan Hughes and he’s from Fayetteville, Arkansas," the post reads, which notes in the report that "The feds called the manufacturer of his Liberty Gun Safe and got the passcode to get into it too. All for protesting at the Capitol over 2 1/2 years ago.""

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...iding-fbi-with-code-to-customers-safe.613442/

 

Ok. And? So what?

 

other poster did not know what he did, I posted it... not sure what your problem with it is

 

Why didn't you quote that poster? Is the reality, that you're trying to derail the thread?

 

seems you are trying to derail the thread

you quoted in post #1 "Gun Safe and got the passcode to get into it too. All for protesting at the Capitol"

I corrected that

quote in my post from this post

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...iding-fbi-with-code-to-customers-safe.613442/

 

Same. They maintained secret control over the case, that allows them to allow folks you did not authorize to open it. Can they also remotely change the combination so that you cannot open it?

Can you imagine what this crazed asshat New Mexico Gov would do with that power? She could remotely lock up your guns, in your own house.

 

looks like they are saying they will no longer keep records of the combinations in their data, so if a customer forgets it, SOL

 

The FBI had a search warrant and rather than destroy the safe or remove it from the property they did the least damaging thing possible. The safe company complied with the warrant, Of course the safe owner could have had obstruction of the serving of a legal search warrent tacked on to his charges so the safe commpany actually saved him from that added charge. The term horse feathers is just jumping out.

 

The safe company was under no obligation to comply with the warrant.

How could the safe owner be charged with obstruction?

 

No, they're saying they will still keep the pass codes in place, but the customers can scrub the pass code if they choose.

Makes me glad I couldn't afford a Liberty safe and bought safes with programmable combinations.

 

Read more carefully, not the safe company but the safe owner. Had he complied the FBI would not have needed to ask the safe company. By not complying the safe owner could be charge with obstructing the search. Maybe he has been, not in the article. Do note that even that bastion of fair thinking National Review said that the safe company "might" not have been compelled to comply. That's known as covering your ass if sued because that also could mean that they were compelled.

 

The safe owner is under no legal obligation to give the FBI the combination to the safe....lol

The safe company was under no legal obligation to give the FBI the pass code. They could have told the FBI to piss off and come back when they have a court order.

 

in this day and age, hard to believe some still being sold that you can't change the combination

 

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