CBS is reporting 22 Americans are dead-others taken hostage

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Does Americans being killed or seized by Hamas Justify

  1. US giving Israel more weapons and financial support

    61.5%
  2. US Air strikes against Hamas

    23.1%
  3. US Special Forces being sent to retrieve hostages

    61.5%
  4. All out military attack on Hamas

    15.4%
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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no difference between Jews and Jewish people. Your so-called difference is completely made up.

    Turk= Turkish person.

    Swede= Swedish person.

    Spaniard= Spanish person.

    Finn= Finnish person.

    Scot= Scottish person.

    Jew= Jewish person.

    Pole= Polish person.

    Dane= Danish person.

    Etc etc..
     
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  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In the 1950s and 60s, many Jews from North Africa, Iraq, Egypt and Iran emigrated to Israel. Amar-Dahl says their reasons were manifold. Some were motivated by the religious desire to move to the land of the Jews. Others feared that conflicts between Israel and its Arab neighbors could threaten their status or even their lives. "The Arab nationalism of the 1950s and 60s was certainly a major impetus for many Arab Jews to emigrate to Israel," adds Amar-Dahl.

    Read more: Israel's 70th: not a happy celebration for author Lizzie Doron

    Zimmermann says that wave of immigration changed Israel: Previously populated by a majority of eastern European Jews, society suddenly became more colorful. Since the mid-1960s roughly half of Israel's population has been made up of citizens with Afro-Asian roots.

    https://www.dw.com/en/immigration-to-israel-one-mans-joy-is-another-mans-suffering/a-43769839


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    https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2012/03/08/religious-migration-jewish-migrants/


    Shortly after the founding of the state there was mass immigration of Middle Eastern Jews from Iran, Iraq, Morocco and Yemen that, in some cases, resembled an exodus and led to the virtual disappearance of Jewish population groups in the countries from which they came.To resolve the footnote[4] In the first years between 1948 and 1952 alone, more than 600,000 Jewish immigrants came to Israel, doubling the total population.

    https://www.bpb.de/themen/migration...historical-development-of-jewish-immigration/



     
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  3. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    And yet the content he provides clearly Trump's your opinions presented as statements of fact but not presented with any thing to verify your opinions as factual....

    So there is that..
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Anyone who cares to can go back and read the entirety of our exchange and realize the extreme irony of you continuing to project.

    I even provided the example via a screenshot and you still have the temerity to try to turn things on its head.
     
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    Esau Well-Known Member

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    What content?
     
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    Just as I suspected, you don't know what projection is.

    My bad.
     
  7. Esau

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    EPIC FAIL ALERT
    Jew is not a country lmao
     
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  8. Esau

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    don't doubt that a million Jewish folk moved to Israel at all, there is 5 million there now, most of which are not related to the biblical ISRAELITES
     
  9. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    and how does that matter?
     
  10. Esau

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    It doesn't as long as they don't claim it but they do, every second of the day like we never heard them the first time.

    "Thou doth protest too much" comes to mind.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    If Israel considers them "real Jews" and they consider themselves Jewish-that seems to be all that matters
     
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    So basically they're marking their own homework. Gotcha .
     
  13. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your complaint is akin to you complaining about a club-one that you do not belong to-as to who they admit as members
     
  14. Esau

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    im complaining that you are not allowing an independant inquiry into somebody marking their own homework and giving themselves A++ even though its full of holes and errors.

    also i could be jewish tomorow if i so desired, by taking an online course but id rather be myself.
     
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  15. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    how does it impact you if Israel determines someone is Jewish and thus deserving citizenship. WTF should be able to second guess a sovereign nation's ability to vet its own immigrant and citizenship policies
     
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    I have given you evidence not from Wikipedia that hundreds of thousands of Jews from the Middle East moved to Israel. These are not Ashkenazi Jews. Today 60% of Israeli Jews can claim Middle Eastern ancestry.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are currently 7 million Jews in Israel.

    Seems you have no idea about what's going on over there.
     
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    It impacts many ppl I know (Jews) when Israelis or rabbis falsify documents in order to claim Jewish ancestry.
     
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    And my point is that there are potentially thousands of Ashkenazi who have falsely acquired mizrahi and Sephardi documentation for themselves.
     
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    again, how does that affect you at all? that's between Israel and its citizens. Not Americans, Africans, Jihadists, cricket players or sword swallowers
     
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    again how does that affect you in any way shape or form. If Israel says someone's Jewish heritage is sufficient, you have no standing to say otherwise
     
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    If it affects ppl I know and love then it effects me.
     
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    The problem here is that those documents have been falsified according to state police. I'm not a criminal and do not condone criminal activity and it's a real shame that you wish to sweep this corruption under the rug. It says alot more about you than I, respectfully speaking.
     
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    Baseless, unsupported nonsense.

    Why would an Ashkenazi Jew claim to be from North Africa or the Middle East? There is zero reason to do such a thing. There is zero advantage to claim such a thing.

    You are just throwing around silly useless speculation because it does not work with your narrative that there are so many Jews in Israel who are not Ashkenazi.
     
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    This issue affects me a lot as I am a Jew.
     

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