CBS is reporting 22 Americans are dead-others taken hostage

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Does Americans being killed or seized by Hamas Justify

  1. US giving Israel more weapons and financial support

    61.5%
  2. US Air strikes against Hamas

    23.1%
  3. US Special Forces being sent to retrieve hostages

    61.5%
  4. All out military attack on Hamas

    15.4%
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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Does that Justify the following responses as noted in the poll
     
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  2. Bob Newhart

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    Why didn't you put down none of the above?
     
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  3. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    sorry, I assume if you don't support any of those alternatives you wouldn't vote.
     
  4. Bob Newhart

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    So, you didn't want to know how many didn't support all the listed alternatives?
     
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    Beau explains it best
     
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  6. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    this guy?
    In 2007, Beau was arrested and charged with purchasing young Eastern European girls in Florida to work as maids in local resorts. He was sentenced to 41 months in prison and ordered to pay a $1 million fee in assets. During his time in jail, it is said that he reformed and changed his views on jurisdiction and immigration. It is unclear if he has remained on this positive path since his release.

    I don't have much use for this fellow
     
  7. Bowerbird

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    Yep! And one day listen to the podcast where he talks about this. Jason also is very active in his Florida community volunteering to help after disasters, etc etc. Although he acknowledges he spent time in prison for assisting illegal immigrants there is a huge question mark over his role plus a lot is what looks like right wing misinformation.
     
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  8. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    and what gives him the wisdom, education or credentials that would cause me or anyone else to give a rat's ass as to what he says. I've listened to him several times and don't find him particularly logical or useful.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh btw, it seems-at least from what I learned about watching several hours of news casts concerning this cowardly massacre of civilians in Israel, almost all the victims were not armed-didn't have access to firearms.
     
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    Get any of our people back we can with special forces or paying ransoms, but we really need to stay out of this war as much as possible IMHO. I cannot think of a single upside to us becoming involved in the fighting.
     
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    Listen to him and make up your own mind as he says “it’s just a thought”
     
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    And not a few downsides. One major one that “Beau” talks of is incentivising the enemy
     
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    I did, it was bullshit
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I sort of agree-but our government's main obligation is protecting US citizens.
     
  15. Bowerbird

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    What part? Oh and given the time between when I posted and your replied……. 8 minute video and you replied in seven
     
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    There are various countries that should be avoided, but other countries seem to have citizens that live there caught up in the mess. If foreigners just avoided those places, they wouldn't be among this mess.
     
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    So far as I can tell, these were mostly dual citizens who knowingly moved there. I mean I can't go walking through the hood in the hoodiest part of Detroit on a holiday weekend and realistically expect the government to protect me. Likewise, if I moved to a settlement in Israel adjacent to Gaza, I would be assuming a lot of risk. Expecting the US government to protect me would not be realistic.
     
  18. Turtledude

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    I didn't say I had listened to it until almost an hour after you posted it-my first comment was about that clown in general-not what he specifically said
     
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    Exactly- you didn’t listen. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day - well, Tucker and co may be the exceptions to that
     
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    You are not telling the truth. How can you possibly make that claim?
     
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    I think it depends a little bit on how and where exactly those Americans were captured.
     
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    Hmmmm didn’t pick you for a Tucker fan
     
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    you managed to follow a dishonest post with an irrelevant one
     
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    are they really your citizens? if they were then they were just visiting, right?
     
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    were they usa citizens or were they serving in the army, living in a settlement?
     

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