CBS is reporting 22 Americans are dead-others taken hostage

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Does Americans being killed or seized by Hamas Justify

  1. US giving Israel more weapons and financial support

    61.5%
  2. US Air strikes against Hamas

    23.1%
  3. US Special Forces being sent to retrieve hostages

    61.5%
  4. All out military attack on Hamas

    15.4%
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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    "Related to middle East" does not denote Israelite heritage lol. That just simple comprehension. The ISRAELITES were a miniscule proportion of what we today call middle East (a Eurocentric term btw).

    This isn't rocket science.
     
  2. Esau

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    A tiny proportion of Ashkenazi have curly hair and like I've already conceded, those that do, likely have some Israelite heritage in the distant past.
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uh huh, so you think the modern-day Middle Eastern peoples of Jordan, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, would have no links whatsoever genetically to the ancient Israelites?

    right, oh yeah, cuz you think all the ancient Israelites were black folks.

    LOLOLOL!!!!
     
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  4. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Game, set and match. The jewfro argument always gets em.
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a very stupid perspective.

    Lots of Europeans have curly dark hair. Its not unique to black people.
     
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  6. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Oh but it is.

    Move on bro, you lost already
     
  7. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    not from where I am standing. And I don't agree with him on much of anything, but he is right here
     
  8. Irie

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    Bad idea on the ransoms; the kidnappers/terrorists likely see it as a payday.
     
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    Don't be shy brother, they're either kidnappers or terrorists no need for the slash.
     
  10. Irie

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    They are both.....do you prefer terrornappers?
     
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    Well just say terrorists then or does that not have enough belief attached to it???
     
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    How about rape-killers?.....maybe terror-rape-killers?....hmmm?
     
  13. Esau

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    Or blood sucking child killers, as JewISH PPL were called in Europe a few centuries back ?
     
  14. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you afraid that hamas's feelings will be hurt by the name calling?
     
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    Yeah, moronic claims of 300 years ago sure are laughable...doncha think?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    yeah Europe was awash with anti-semitic hatred. I tend to suspect it came down to this-for 1000 years the best educated and intelligent Christian men were forced to be celibate. this did nothing to increase the intelligence of the dominant religious group in Europe. On the other hand, in many Jewish Neighborhoods and areas, the smartest boy of a generation was married to the wealthiest man's daughter so he could advance his education and be the rabbi of his village. He also was expected to have lots of children. No wonder the Christian resentment of Jews.
     
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    What should really happen to Hamas? No, I'll pass on that... I don't feel like getting *banned* for a month....
     
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    To a certain degree. They can protect them by notifying that travelling to Israel is traveling to a country where terrorism is common and it up to them to accept that risk. It's not as if Canada comes marching in when a Canadian gets murdered in a gang fight in the US. It doesn't work like that.

    While the US needs to find out what their own Americans were doing there in the first place. Lots of them join the Israeli army, and so their citizenship should be axed over it. Lots of others start living in the state of Palestine, which is a war crime to do so. If they got a dual citizenship, than the US should axe the citizenship to axe the idea that they are part of that war crime or else take economic sanctions to their citizens to make them comply with international law. An international law the US recognizes as well as the US recognizes them colonies are illegal.
     
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    It's a biblical theme where the Jews will be for ever held responsible for the death of the son of God. And don't go hating me for it. I'm not the author of the bible.
    While "blood sucking child killers" seems rather fitting now, when eyeballing how many children they massacre with them special Jewish interest groups just shrugging it all off.
    That's even besides that the Jewish state arranged it that Arab parents can watch their babies die in the incubators because they cut of the power on purpose and prevent the generators from getting fuel.
    And that will haunt the Jewish state and their Jewish special interest groups for decades to come.
     
  20. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah I know the nonsense about Judas being the reason for "Jew hate" but I also know that Jesus and his closest followers were mainly Jewish so that excuse is-like most religious reasons for hatred, completely illogical. Jewish hate is invariably caused by jealousy of a group that has managed to succeed despite over 1000 years of severe persecution combined with the massive failures of those who want to oppress them
     
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    who determines what is a war crime and WTF do they do about it? Now I agree, if someone joins the IDF and is KIA that is not something that should concern the USA Government. However, if an American citizen is visiting relatives and friends in Israel and they are killed or taken hostage (and not released when the islamists realize they are Americans)-that latter situation would justify a special forces hit team going in, freeing them and taking out those responsible).
     
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    Uh no.
    Jesus was executed by the Romans. But as the myth goes, he was brought in front of Pilate, the local Roman ruler by an angry Jewish mob. Pilate could not prosecute Jesus since he did not break any Roman laws. But the Jews wanted him dead, and so Pilate agreed with it, with the disclaimer that he is washing his hands in innocence and the death is on the Jews. The mob agreed, and so the blame remains on the Jews.

    Oh get real. The Christians were prosecuting any person who did not follow their set of Christian rules. Subsequently Catholics and Protestants beat each other up for 1000 years, and just tossed in the Jews on the side. There are still orange marches in Northern Ireland as a neat reminder of what happened in all of Europe. The "nobody expects the Spanish inquisition" has become a funny meme how massive amount of people were burned at the stake or tortured to death. Thanksgiving is a nice day with the family in the US where nobody really thinks about how it is a religious group who fled from the UK almost starved to death in the US. And all of that has nothing to do with people being jealous. So the bottom line is: Any group hated an other group. Jews were part of a group, and got the same treatment as other groups experienced from other groups.
     
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    How about you go look this one up.

    An American can also go to North Korea. All the US needs to do is warn stupid for the possible consequences that NK can pull. And what you are saying basically flies both ways. If the US detains some Iranian with bogus charges, in the eyes of Iran, than they too would justify a special forces hit team going in. The world doesn't work like that. The US gave that a go when their deep state CIA HQ in Iran got compromised. It did not end well.
     
  24. Turtledude

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    I never ask a question that i don't really know an answer to. I asked you to tell us why your claims of war crimes matter if no one can prosecute it, then it's a worthless claim. Ultimately might does make right internationally and Iran pulled that stunt, then the US would squash it-as we should have done under the impotent administration of peanut boy 45 years ago.
     
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    I don't think your understanding of history is superior to mine.
     

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