Why Do The Serbs And Albanians Hate Each Other?

Serbian radical party is insignificant now, after Tomislav Nikolic left it. Get to know some information, and post it afterwards.

The people on the photo are Palestinians residing in Serbia, Muslim leaders, and Serbian Radical Party. And good thing they are protesting against the crimes committed by Israelis in the Gaza strip.

 

I cannot argue with that, and in all honesty, I agree with the above statement.

Yugoslavia was a federal state. This way of thinking is what made it fall apart in the first place. No, you should not have the majority in a federal state. Why? Because all the republics were supposed to be equal in it. Slovenia and Croatia, as the most developed republics, brought most of the money to the federal reserves, why shouldn't those republics have more representatives than?
And another remark: no, the Serbs did not consist more than half of all Yugoslav population. According to the 1981 census, there were around 8 million Serbs living in a state which had more than 22 million people. Again, please stop exaggerating.

Not exactly, I strongly believe my review seemed objective (at least I had every intention of making it like that), with a short remark which described my personal opinion based on the events which occurred in the 90s, yours looked like a propaganda pamphlet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Sisak_Partisan_Detachment

Furthermore, the first partisan air units consisted of two Croatian pilots (Franjo Kluz and Rudi Čajavec) who had defected to the partisans with their French-built Potez 25, and Breguet 19 aircrafts from the Independent State of Croatia in May 1942.
The first partisan navy units consisted of Croatian fishermen from Dalmatia. Google that.

My late grandfather fought in the partisans, he fought against the nazis, the puppet regime in Croatia, and the "chetniks" alongside not only Serbs but Slovenians, Bosniaks and most of the other nations belonging to Yugoslavia. Saying that all Croats fought for the nazis, or supported them in any way, is an insult as well.

 

ok Mak, I try to explain.

After WWII a lot of albanian was invited by Tito as foreign workers.
Like Germany had invited turks.

With theyr huge fertill rate the albanian made a lot of children: 5 or 10 pro family.

After they riched majority in Kosovo they claimend "Human Rights" and throwed the serbs away.

The "political correct" Ahtisaari allow independece of Kosovo ( alleged for $ 40 millions ) and the serb lost theyr country.

The new Kosovo will be soon ALL EUROPAN CONTRYS because against huge muslims birth rate the european families have no chance.

I hope you're sutisfied with my explanation.

 

source:http://www.antiwar.com

New european Columbia.

Thank "political correct" fulls and corrupted politicans we have now a drug "paradise" near to all important european countries.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2000/mar/13/balkans

 

source:http://globalresistance.com

Typical church today in Kosovo

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1856019/posts

http://eurabia.blogse.nl/log/balkan/kosovo-a-european-narco-state.html

Mak,

more information for you.

 

source:http://www.bbc.co.uk/portuguese/images/020422_jenin150.jpg

Here: the founder of independed Kosovo and "political correct" Mr. Ahtisaary.

Alleged $ 40 millions reacher.

And Europa have to pay billions of dollars to fight Kosovo drugs and bordells mafia.

 

source:http://www.wiedenroth-karikatur.de

The church burned in Kosovo.
Albanian ( 90 % of they lieve fewer as 50 years in Kosovo ) are happy.

Independance.

 

You are greatly mistaken. The first organized movement of resistance against Hitler in Yugoslavia, as well as in Europe, was established in Serbia, in May 1941. They were the so called chetniks, led by general Draza Mihailovic, a great friend of French general Charles De Gaul (they studied in France together). Your 1st Sisak Partisan Detachment may be the first communist unit, but the first movement of resistance (and a non-communist one, supported by all Allies) was the one of Draza Mihailovic in Serbia, created a month and a half before the one you said to be the first.

 

Exactly, those "Nobel prize winners", such is Ahtisaari, and many other US and EU officials, don't seem to be immune to bloody money of Albanian mafia.

 

Chetniks were a paramilitary organization which never engaged the Germans during the WW2 on a large scale, or as a unified organization, and are commonly known as German collaborators. They initially recieved recognition because they proclaimed themselves to be the successors of the Yugoslav royal army, supported by the Yugoslav government in exile (which also gradually lost the support of the Allies as the war went on).

Tito's partisans were the first armed organization which started an armed campaign against the Germans and therefore are the ones who are considered to be the first movement of resistance. The first orders of Mihajlovic were for chetniks to arm themselves and wait. His main excuse was to prevent German reprisals against the Serb population. As the significance of the Balkans was recognised by the Allies, they needed to choose one of the two factions which could help them occupy the German forces in that area. They decided to support the partisans because chetniks by that time openly allied themselves with the nazis from whom they had recieved a significant support in arms. The first chetnik attacks on the partisans began in November 1941.
In one of the biggest German offensives in Yugoslavia, codenamed Fall Weis, chetniks fought for the nazis providing no less than 20000 soldiers (according to the book: A Balkan Tragedy, Yugoslavia 1941-1946: Memoirs of a Guerrilla Fighter by Zvonimir Vuckovic).
In other words, from the early romantic idealists who fought in the Balkan Wars, they evolved into naci collaborators in the WW2. Individual scirmishes are of course a possibility, but the chetniks did not engage Germans before the partisans had done that, adding to that, they turned out to be working for the nazis so they cannot be classified as the first armed anti-fascist movement. They existed before the partisans (they were organized before the WW1 for that matter), that's true, but the partisans were the first to start the fight.

Please understand that my intention is not to undermine your knowledge or dispute any historical facts. If you happen to know more about the chetnik movement, I am of course willing to listen and maybe even learn something new in the process.

 

Can you explain Ante Gotovina's conviction of the Krajina massacre of serb civilians?

and how not giving krajina autonomy to the serb population like kosovo with the albanians?

 

How the interntl community didnt see the recognition of serbs in krajina?
nor their presence in Kosovo.

 

Because Albanian have stolen Kosovo by Serbs, have transformed Kosovo in a mafia state, destroyed all serbian churches and selling to Europa hundreds of tons heroin from Afganistan.

 

You have just pointed out why Albanians are victors and more respected than Serbs who ceded Kosovo without engaging the NATO troops on the ground. Albanians build mafia state and bribe foreign bureaucrats to solve different issues, the Serbian government only negotiate about the integration into the Western organizations like the EU in spite of their supporting the independence of Kosovo. Today Serbs aren't worth any sympathy.

 

Ethnicity.

 

The US have been eyeing on the balkan conflicts for their own gains such as placing military bases at the expense of other peoples conflicts.

The media will prop one thing but actions say something else.

The US KFOR base is one of the biggest base in EUROPE and too expensive.

And it doesnt serve any strategic purpose for various reasons.
Its far away from Russia . Why dont they set a base in moldova or Romania?

I can only think how the albanian lobbyist have persuaded military strategists with their con-artists mafia groups.

 

This so-called "Final Solution" sounds like a propaganda campaign from Hitlers genocidal treatment of the JEWS.

Now what about the Albanian Skanderbeg SS who sided with the NAZIs????


How about Albanian Pashas ruling over OTTOMAN principalities as elite Muslim Rulers over impovershed Christian subjects?


How about ROMAN CATHOLICISM split in 1054 AD which created a schism btwn East /WEST churches .This caused a political division for the ROman catholics to ally with the Ottoman Turks in order to destroy the Eastern Orthodox Church as mere heretics.

 

Yes, I can. Ante Gotovina hasn't been convicted yet because the prosecuters are yet to find solid proof of these "massacres" you speak of.

And the reason the Serb minority didn't get their independence in Croatia was because they had started the war and therefore lost the international support and simpythy. One of the early incidents was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borovo_Selo_killings

Furthermore, there was a plan in Croatia according to which the government would grant significant authonomy to the Serb minority. In other words, the Serbs were supposed to be recognized as a constitutional nation and subsequently be given authonomy. Unfortunately the Serbs did not accept it and decided to start the fighting instead.

 

If he wasnt convicted , can you explain all of the media blitz and his running away into the spanish canary island?

here is an article stating his indictment by the hague .

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4514150.stm

by the way, what provoked the serbs to fight ?

 

Indictement does not mean conviction. In a modern judicial system a man is innocent until proven guilty, not the other way arround.

As to what provoked Serbs to fight, in my oppinion it was the Croatian declaration of independence, to which Croats had every right according to the Yugoslav constitution from 1974. If you claim otherwise, than say it instead of asking me.

 

Well being Indicted for anything doesnt make you look good .

why do you think the serbs in krajina were scared of croat independence?

 

Ok, than let's follow your logic: why did the Croats want their own country so bad?

As you can see, history cannot be used to justify present actions, because there is no way of telling who is wrong and who is right. You are probably refering to the events which took place in the WW2. Granted. But than I could refer to the events which took place in the 90s. Pulling out some past deeds (committed by both sides) can't do any good because it leaves room for extremists to launch their own ideas and blame the other side for the deeds committed by their ancestors.

 

I just asked a question. I didnt even make a premise for you to make a conclusion on some logical arguement for you to ask me another question.

Why did the serbs want to attack ? I mean there must be more to the answer for anyone wanting to nuke a country, propose a blitzkrieg across europe, or do genocide on half of the population.

And I am not trying to lessen the credibility of croatia's quest for independence either.

I am just focusing on the minority population of croatia.

 

LIE....


ok Mak, I try to explain.

After WWII a lot of albanian was invited by Tito as foreign workers.
Like Germany had invited turks.

With theyr huge fertill rate the albanian made a lot of children: 5 or 10 pro family.

After they riched majority in Kosovo
they claimend "Human Rights" and throwed the serbs away.

The "political correct" Ahtisaari allow independece of Kosovo ( alleged for $ 40 millions ) and the serb lost theyr country.

The new Kosovo will be soon ALL EUROPAN CONTRYS because against huge muslims birth rate the european families have no chance.




THE TRUTH...



Catholic Russian..... (German)

Poor Nonsense .... read Dardani Wiki.(Even wiki. does not say but 1% of Albanian History)

ore!!!! read below....

Despite the imposition of Muslim rule, large numbers of Christians continued to live and sometimes even prosper under the Ottomans. A process of Islamisation began shortly after the beginning of Ottoman rule but it took a considerable amount of time - at least a century - and was concentrated at first on the towns. It appears that many Christian Albanian inhabitants converted directly to Islam, rather than being replaced by Muslims from outside Kosovo.

As the Serbs expelled a large number of Albanians from the regions of Niš, Pirot, Leskovac and Vranje in southern Serbia, which the Congress of Berlin of 1878 had given to the Belgrade Principality, a large number of them settled in Kosovo, where they are known as muhaxher (meaning the exiled, from the Arabic muhajir) and whose descendants often bear the surname Muhaxheri.

As a reaction against the Congress of Berlin, which had given Albanian territories to Serbia and Montenegro, Albanians, mostly from Kosovo, formed the League of Prizren in Prizren in June 1878. Hundreds of Albanian leaders gathered in Prizren and opposed the Serbian and Montenegrin jurisdiction.


The violent oppression and forced expatriation of Albanians resumed, particularly after 1953, when Josip Broz Tito reached an agreement with Turkish Foreign Minister Mehmet Fuat Köprülü to push Yugoslavian Albanians to declare themselves Turks and leave for Turkey.[24]The harsh repressions and expatriations came to an end when the 4th Plenum of the Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia held at Brijuni (the Brioni Plenum) in July 1966 ousted Yugoslavian Interior Minister and Vice President Aleksandar Ranković (Serb Nationality)[29] who was instrumental in the brutal treatment of Kosovar Albanians.


Kosova Capital
(and largest city) Pristina (Prishtina, Priština)
Official languages Albanian, Serbian
Recognised regional languages Turkish, Gorani, Romani(Gipsys), Bosnian

How many Official Languages you have in Russia ohhh sorry Germany...(aaa 1 right) Compare to Kosova Please.

 

Believe it or not this hate has to do with religion and culture. This started long before the majority of Albanians was Muslims, Albanians being Muslims is the result of this conflict. This hate started because of the majority of Albanians was Catholic, and the Orthodox and Catholic rivalry. The Serbs sold us out to the Ottomans when we were resisting them and so the Ottomans imposed hard sanctions on us and one way out was to turn Muslim; the sanctions on Albania were much harder then the rest of the other Balkan states because of revolt….. Turkish nationalists still hate Albanians for their revolt against the Ottomans….. You can do some research on your own...….