Why Do The Serbs And Albanians Hate Each Other?

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  1. VOCi

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    Please specify the term Catholic Russian as to who you refer too, because it sounds like youre referring to Germans as Catholic Russians....

    Clarification: Dardan is calling Ostap Bender a Catholic Russian who calls him self German, meaning that Dardan does not see Ostap Bender as German.....
     
  2. Dardanian

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    Clarification: Dardan is calling Ostap Bender a Catholic Russian who calls him self German, meaning that Dardan does not see Ostap Bender as German.....



    EXACTLY.
     
  3. AGS

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    thats because DARDAN is a KEEN SUPPORTER OF GERMAN NAZIs.
     
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    the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH TRIED TO STEAL KOSOVO along WITH THE OTTOMAN TURKS WHO TOOK IT.

    ITALY REGION EXPERIENCED A PERIOD CALLED THE "RENAISSANCE" after OTTOMAN INVASION OF THE BALKANS.
     
  5. Dardanian

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    1. thats because DARDAN is a KEEN SUPPORTER OF GERMAN NAZIs.

    this is the language of hate and its a personal Insult (i hope Mods. will Bann you) .... (Chetnics-Serbs where Nazi's best collaborator dont try to throw your best friends to Albanians)


    2) the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH TRIED TO STEAL KOSOVO along WITH THE OTTOMAN TURKS WHO TOOK IT.

    Why you mention word steel .... is that what you have learned to do in Kosova on 1999.
     
  6. VOCi

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    If anyone would like to get deeper within this conflict, then I recommend you study the origin of the Albanian language, study the old city names around Kosova, and then see what you come up with.
     
  7. AGS

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    albanians use alot of foriegn loan words.
     
  8. AGS

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    let me remind you again?

    SS SKENDERBEG

    leader of albanian NAZI in WWII Berani Pejami.
    allied with Nazi Mufti allied with hitler who massacrd serbs in Kosovo wwii
     
  9. Dardanian

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    AGS-What the fu*k is Berani
    And this - Pejami.

    And complete this Sentence honestly I don’t have no freaking Idea what the hell you are talking about I know you mention some Nazis but I just cant resolve this sentence.

    allied with Nazi Mufti allied
     
  10. FreeThinkingAlbanian

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    Good Lord..........

    I think you lot have had hate spoonfed since an early age. Either that or you spend too much time on the internet

    I'm Albanian and I don't hate Serbs and neither do I hate Greeks for that matter. I think only someone who is completely and utterly ignorant and who has no common sense would claim that Serbs are all butchers and filled with hate and that Albanians are all criminals, backward, thick .....I could go on. A few bad apples on the tree does not mean that the whole crop is rotten! Referring back to history has done us no favours!

    I think people need to have an open mind and apply some common sense. It's very easy to make provocative claims against a nation and to go along with it. But the best of us should know better since, such rhetoric has many times led to conflict and bloodbaths.

    ps. By the way we don't need 5 pages of history lesson on a forum. No body reads them and most of the time they're inaccurate. If I want history I buy a history book!
     
  11. Blowback

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    You say that because you are from Albania, not Kosovo. Native Albanians (Albanians from their motherland) happen to be much more open minded. Kosovar Albanians, or at least a vast majority of them, are filled with hate and are taught to blame the Serbs for everything, but in fact, the real truth lies within the bad economic situation down there. With or without Serbs, Kosovar Albanians are very very poor and there lies "the catch". It's very easy to make a poor man believe that somebody else is guilty for his situation.
     
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    I want my tax dollars out of this region. What these people do to each is not the concern of the US.
     
  13. Blowback

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    If you had had real democracy in your country, USA would've never stepped on Balkan soil. But you forget the fact USA is a farce of a democracy when it comes to foreign policy, which is planned, influenced and conducted by small groups of dominant men, easy to bribe, and who couldn't care less about US citizens' tax money. The only care they have, and the only belief they are led by, is how to get their pockets heavier. US public is to see and know what is important to get support of their projects. Those groups rely on corporate media in the US to achieve their goals and deceive US citizens of the need of spending their tax money on some idealistic fights for human rights and democracy, or WMDs, or Bin Laden's, or crap like that.
     
  14. LenaSrb

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    Hi Makedde,
    I'll try to answer this question from my point of view and to clarify this confusion!
    When one Serb has in mind and says for example (pls no one to jump here it's an explanation) for them shiptars or albos very few have in mind people who live in Albania proper but those who live outside of their country.Coming from that region and being there for 30 years (during all conflicts and bombing) I must say that Macedonians and Greeks have same feeling for Albanians who are outside of their mother country so it's not exclusive feeling of the Serbs. More to it, since I have friends in Slovenia, I know for fact that they are not sympathetic to them also etc etc. All in all, I can't say that any of the countries in the region (talking about common people) find them as nice and easy going people but complete opposite, which speaks for it self.
    If we for a moment forget about the past and focus on the future only, we'll see that there is no bright future in region and I'll try to explain on a very simple way-via few very recent articles or news from the region (July/August this year only):

    1. Macedonia (FYROM)
    More:
    2.South of Serbia (Kosovo excluded)
    More:
    etc. etc.

    This is just a small part of the news I can post here for members to read and to understand the situation on the ground which is not good at all.In Greece, for now, they are relatively quiet (Greece is the member of NATO as well as EU) although I heard that they increased number to half million. So, please, try to understand that the story doesn't end with Kosovo and Metohija but it's the whole part around it. It's not going to end up in a nice way and I strongly believe, no matter who is the favored side by West, until we, people from the region are not allowed to settle things on our own, things can go just from bad to worse in no time.Bubble will burst and it's just a question of time.
    To repeat, it's not just the beef between Serbs and Albanians (the ones who live outside of their mother country) but between all countries who have a borders with them!Serbia was just first in the line...
     
  15. FreeThinkingAlbanian

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    Wow....talk about cherry picking...

    Did we also kill Jesus Christ, created AIDS and were responsible for the Holocaust?! I'm sure one your countrymen is currently working on such a story.

    I find it amazing how one dimmensional most Serbs seem to be about Albanians. The hate has never come from us, but from you who have been brainwashed for generations and generations and seem to have an inbred hatred about a nation who has done no harm to ANY of its neighbours but has always been on the receiving end.

    Your article does nothing but incite prejudice and hatred by talking about a nation you know absolutely nothing or care to know nothing of it.
     
  16. Illyrian Princess

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    Why do some members here make it look like Albanians are the scum of the earth?

    I must be sorry I was born to be of Albanian nationality. Perhaps I should join the scums.

    On a serious note, FreeThinkingAlbanian, the propaganda will never stop.

    After starting debating with some users, I seriously have decided to give up thinking we have some rational thinkers around here when it comes to these situations. They seem to always be one-sided. It's no use. It has hit them to the core of their brain.
     
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    Both of you guys (FreeThinking and Princess) are decent and polite debaters, which cannot be said about other countrymen of yours on this forum. Just my view.
     
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    Thanks.

    It could be understandable that everybody is different and I can not help how others are behaving. They are themselves and I am simply me.
     
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    Of course that they are polite, no one said differently but none of them disputed articles and situation but gave some statements to twist it, like "cherry picking" etc. which is not true!
    Situation in the region is very serious, dangerous and that's the way it is!!!Why do we need to ignore it :-?? This is political forum after all but if all agree to ignore situation then Ok...
     
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    Lena, Makkede has asked on this thread why Albanians and Serbs hate each other. Yet, you instead presented the countries on your post as hateful toward the Albanians. Isn't that cherry picking? It is not about how many countries hate Albanians. It's the question of individuality. It is not about ignoring the situation, it is about understanding that both countries went through tough times and perhaps it is time to let bygones be bygones and live in peace.
     
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    being human most people have to hate something or someone so why no each other.
     
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    I am hoping that was sarcasm.
     
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    all over the world, wherever i have traveled people hate someone or another for a million reasons. it is more common than anything. it is a shame that it has to be like that.

    Jewish, Islam, Christian religious hate. Nationalistic hatred one country for another. racism culture looks ideas political ideals.

    it is sarcasm and sad but way to true.
     
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    That was a bit clearer now. It is sad. It's all up to us in the end. If we choose to hurt other people, we are also hurting each other.
     
  25. LenaSrb

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    No I didn't present other countries instead of Serbia. Please, go back and read carefully...First thing I did was to answer to the question very directly and only after it I added others just to see the bigger picture (among 5 articles I posted, 3 were related to South of Serbia proper). Instead to open few threads and clutter this forum I posted it all together.
    What cherry picking?!? Did I ignored some facts related to the subject and what happen in the couple of last months and presented just the ones to support my position??? I don't think so... If I did, please do post it here.What is happening lately in region is terrible!
    Personally I hate no one! I just ask for justice and prevention of future conflicts, if it's possible...
     

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