Why Do The Serbs And Albanians Hate Each Other?

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  1. Illegal and Illegitimate

    Illegal and Illegitimate New Member

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    Did Catholic and Muslim Albanians fight a war against each other in the 90s?

    The prime minister of Kosovo is Hashim Thaçi. The leader of a world recognized terrorist organization. That is the only criminal thing in Kosovo right now.

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    Lets see which part of Kosovo the World thinks in criminal in the next few years, guarantee it won't be the north.
    Don't forget he's a criminal, so if I were you I would hesitate on calling North Mitrovica criminal. Here in the north, we observe human rights laws. Thaçi can not say the same.

    Half my family was forced from their homes by the KLA, which he was the leader of. Dare I say we have an Albanian Milosevic on our hands? Its almost funny how quickly people turn into what they despise, the only reason its not funny is because innocent people die.
     
  2. Illyrian Princess

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    Then again, I would say the same for you for thinking that way.
     
  3. Illyrian Princess

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    And then you accused me of thinking that Serbia had started the whole thing. This is why I do not even want to waste my energy conversating with you. Not worth it. I will focus on my own country instead. Thanks for your effort.
     
  4. Illegal and Illegitimate

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    The FACTS say that the KLA started the violence. Its not up for debate. The end.
     
  5. Illegal and Illegitimate

    Illegal and Illegitimate New Member

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    You think I'm ignorant for saying that people who have not read any scholarly documents on the material or studied it at all are ignorant? Most people would say I've got common sense.
     
  6. Dardanian

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    Albanians are Illyrians they are not Slavic, they don’t base their Fights on their territorial claims.Albanians fight for freedom.

    He is your Prime to…He was the leader of the Kosovo Liberation Army,which was a NATO allied so if NATO is a terrorist Organization than KLA is also.

    SAD but Truth …

    World is looking right now and they know about Serbia and Serb criminality on North-Mitrovica I’m not a prophet ore astrologer as you so I don’t see the future, I’m living on today’s (October-5-2009) not on the past 1389 nor in future 2389.

    He is not criminal and he is your prime minister and mine no mater if we like it ore not, he is Kosovo (George Washington) North mitrovica is a base of terrorist,rapist,criminal serbs and their activities

    Your family was pushed from your president milosebich who serbs elected because they wanted to conquer Our country by revoking Kosovo’s Autonomy on 1989 which was part of yougoslavia and Kosova was a component Part to that federation so called yougoslavia same milosebich started the war in mine and your country Republic of Kosova, by killing Albanian children woman and Old people and killed your future, Kosovo Serbs was enjoying his time didn’t they while they considered Albanian neighbors as a citizens of the 2nd degree. Serbs from Kosova Majority of them was leading (Uniformed) Serbs from Serbia to attack their neighbors Albanians during Kosova war 1998/1999.
     
  7. Illyrian Princess

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    Facts...facts...facts! Where are they?

    Let's focus on our own countries and how to make better lives, not only for ourselves, but for everyone else. Everybody who contributes in any way possible makes for a brighter future! If we focus so much on other countries, we forget our own people and everything gets out of hand.
     
  8. Midnight Express

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    Neither Turkısh Nationalist nor others hate from Albanians.

    We have many Albanians in Turkey.

    We all love them.
     
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    Probably VOCI was referring to the Turkish Nationalists of (Ottoman Idea) and that can be truth because it’s undeniable Fact that Lots of Turks Hate Skanderbeg our National Hero…Anyway we know that Turks don’t hate Us we Also don’t hate Turks neither any Nation in Balkans neither a group of people that call them selves Serps we just dislike them.

    Yes we know and that’s a result of 1st and 2nd Serb Genocide against Albanians…
    1st Serb Genocide against Albanians was on 1878 when majority of Albanians from east Kosova Today’s Serbia’s territory was brutally killed from the serbo/barbarians and was pushed to live for turkey.

    2nd Serb Genocide against Albanians was on 1953 committed by serb criminal rapist called Alexander Rankobich who executed the agreement between Josip Broz Tito and the Turkish foreign minister Mehmet Fuat Köprülü to "encourage" the people of Albanian nationality within Yugoslavia to move to Turkey.

    Majority of them Love you to especially your women hahaha little joke.
     
  10. frozy

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    hating serbs and vice versa has to do with albanians becoming muslims?! NONSENSE!!! this can be said by someone who doesn't have a clue about Balkan history and mentality or thinks that he/she has some clue about that.
    lol, how dare you?! :omg::omg::omg:
     
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    The Albanians are jealous of the Serbs taking all the best jobs in Gadaffi's mercenaries.
     
  12. Breath

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    Didn't really read the whole thread but this got my attention. This completely wrong. Turkish nationalists don't hate Albanians, and never ever hated for such reason. Turkish nationalism itself was something against Ottoman Empire and government, its noticable that the Ottoman government even cooperated with Allied occupiers against Turkish War of Independence in this regard. They tried their best to digest Turkish nationalism at all. They always had the logic of "There are no Turks, but Ottomans", the same applied to other nationalities under Ottoman Empire.
     
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    Tabloid 'Alo', who launched the story about Serbian mercenaries in Libya in the same article claimed that they went via Croatian and Bosnian agencies.
    Interesting, isn't it?
     
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    Imagine that while all that 'genocide' took place you were increasing in numbers...
     
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    You shouldn't bother too much as Albanians obviously (concluded this while reading Albanian posters here) have some weird history books, very different than the rest of the world.

    For instance, they claim that Ottomans were harsh towards them, harsher than to the rest of the nations, but if you look at the list of Ottoman grand viziers you'll find a lot of Albanians there. Especially towards the end of Ottoman Empire when Viziers were almost exclusively ethnic Turks and Albanians .
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ottoman_Grand_Viziers

    Ottoman Empire was multi-cultural and multilingual at it's zenith and division of the civil administration was by Milets which were determined on a confession...all Orthodox Christians (no matter ethnicity and lang.) belonged to the same Millet.Millets 'had separate legal courts pertaining to personal law under which minorities were allowed to rule themselves with fairly little interference from the Ottoman government'. Local 'Beys' weren't necessarily Turks (Ottomans), but it depended on the nation (inhabitants) who were on that land.

    While certainly no one can't dispute repression and occasionally very cruel treatment (that whole period of Europe's history even before Ottomans came was bloody) there are numerous reasons why Empire lasted so long and I listed only few.
     
  16. frozy

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    you got proof for that?! you have got a proof that they were 'increasing in numbers IN KOSOVO? of course, you won't find any proof for that, and why? is there any reliable record that was held by serbian officials? there wasn't. stop talking bull(*)(*)(*)(*) sold by your racist government and live your life. :puke:
     
  17. Volker

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    Check page 2. The population in Kosovo went up and up since 1948.
    http://www.reintegration.net/europa/download/Maps_Statistics.pdf

    It's reliable enough for Kosovo government.
     
  18. Breath

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    Yes Lena, I truly don't get how Ottoman Empire hated Albanians at all if only there was some sources.
    The grand viziers were of many different origins but yes mainly of Albanian, Turkish and perhaps Bosniak. Also other like Bulgarian, Slavic, Circassian, Georgian, Jewish etc. Mehmed-paša Sokolović is one of famous ones and he was a Hungarian.
    If nationalism wan't infected amongst nations Ottoman Empire could stand much longer I guess, they once had flawless system to keep their lands, especially on their rise time against Anatolian Turkish beyliks and Balkan nations. I am glad Ottoman Empire couldn't manage to survive today though.

    By the way, even the poet/author of current national anthem of Turkey is of Albanian origin :mrgreen:
     
  19. Nanninga

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    The Kosovo was Yugoslavian territory. Albanians lived there. The Albanian population increased, they started to terrorize Serbs and when the Serbs stroke back they cried out "Holocaust, Holocaust".

    Most of the war crimes - although unacceptable - committed by the Serbs were taking place when the NATO intervened for the Albanians.
     
  20. frozy

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    that is not correct :bored:
     
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    Troll :mrgreen:
     
  22. Volker

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    Ok, they cried "genocide, genocide".

    Holocaust was not their thing, because Albanians wanted to get rid of the Jews there anyway.
     
  23. frozy

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    'hate' is perhaps wrong term. ottomans were occupants and Albanians with all other Balkan nations fought against occupation. however, i agree that there are pros and cons about ottoman presence in Balkans. Ever since Balkan nations got their independence (independence of any kind) they were taught that Turks are occupant who took their freedom away, but generally no one actually hates Turks for any reason nowadays. :bored:
     
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    ahan, what happened when you woke up actually :mrgreen: :bored: actually big number of balkan jews were saved by albanians during WW2. they were not screaming for no reason, there was a genocide :omg:
     
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    MEHMED PASA SOKOLOVIC WAS HUNGARIAN?! :omg::omg::omg:
     

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