Joe Wilson was right… Obamacare does cover illegal aliens

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  1. GiveUsLibertyin2012

    GiveUsLibertyin2012 New Member

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    Did you even read that part,or were you blinded by the Kool-Aid ?Or do you have "selective reading"?

    it states..

    "Of course, illegal aliens taking advantage of the American taxpayer is nothing new.



    In 2007, Judicial Watch’s president Tom Fitton reported that Mexico directs their citizens who live in the U.S. illegally to use taxpayer funded clinics in a dozen cities. The program is called Ventanillas de Salud (Health Windows), and is implemented in American cities which have Mexican consulates.

    ObamaCare funds(via the tax payers) are going to clinics such as Ventanillas de Salud,which cater to illegals.

    DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...
     
  2. GiveUsLibertyin2012

    GiveUsLibertyin2012 New Member

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    You are well informed.The Bracero program was used here in Texas as well.
    Heres some info for the clueless Liberals on the Braceros.
    http://www.farmworkers.org/bracerop.html
    And youre right.Obama and Sebilious found a BACKDOOR ,a Loophole should we say to cover illegals .
    Otherwords,he tried to sneak one past us,but he was BUSTED,and proven a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing liar.
    I hope Congress investigates this,and after the mandate was found to be unconstitutional today,I also hope to see this expensive,bogus program go down in flames.
     
  3. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    Ah, have a sense of humor, Todd... didn't you even like the part below from the linked story? You did read the linked story before going off on a tangent about the word "seems", didn't you, Todd?

    Here's one of the juicier parts from the story, with my underlining added (to make sure you don't miss anything):

    "Now, Wilson’s indictment seems to have been proven right.

    On Tuesday, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) announced it was awarding a $28.8 million Obamacare grant to 67 community health centers, many of which offer free care to ‘migrant workers,’ in other words…illegal aliens.

    HHS spokeswoman Judy Andrews told CNSNews.com that “approximately $8.5 million will be used by 25 New Access Point awardees to target services to migrant and seasonal farm workers.”
    Andrews continued: “Health centers do not, as a matter of routine practice, ask about or collect data on citizenship or other matters not related to the treatment needs of the patients seeking health services at the center. The Program’s authorizing statute does not affirmatively address immigration status.”

    Of course, illegal aliens taking advantage of the American taxpayer is nothing new.

    In 2007, Judicial Watch’s president Tom Fitton reported that Mexico directs their citizens who live in the U.S. illegally to use taxpayer funded clinics in a dozen cities. The program is called Ventanillas de Salud (Health Windows), and is implemented in American cities which have Mexican consulates."

    Hey, maybe Obama didn't lie, Todd -- maybe he's just seems cluelessly oblivious to what goes on in his own regime (as usual).... :spin:
     
  4. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    You don't get to see anyone's papers, you racist.

    Candidate Obama and President Obama are exactly the same. The only difference is a few more people are catching on. He lied his way through the campaign and he's seen no reason to change. If you voted for him, you got suckered.
     
  5. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    So Obama did lie. what a shocker?
     
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    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    no its not, read the story.
     
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    Rush was Right bout that McNabb ...:twisted:
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    President Obama made promises abut the scheme while his cronies in the Congress wrote it...His promises have been demonstrated to be almost all lies.

    No, lies implies he knew what he said was false. I do not believe he read the mess any more than anyone in Congress did...perhaps he was simply stupid.
     
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    Inactive928 Banned

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    Well, didn't take too long for the racism to surface in this Obama hate thread (but does it ever?).

    The logic employed by the OP is a laughable, but the right is rarely interested in such obscure concepts. They, much like their apparent Soviet KGB role models, are much more interested in making 'suspicious looking' (i.e., non-Caucasian) people produce identity papers prior to receiving healthcare normally give free to the poor. Josef Stalin is smiling....
     
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    Yes, it is, I did.
     
  11. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    [quoteOn Tuesday, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) announced it was awarding a $28.8 million Obamacare grant to 67 community health centers, many of which offer free care to ‘migrant workers,’ in other words…illegal aliens.][/quote]

    epic failure. Obama the liar.
     
  12. Death Grip

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    You mean please censor the truth because it goes against your ideology. The days of left wing control of the media are far gone... get used to it.

    Wilson was right... Obama did lie.
     
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    Libs cannot have it both ways.

    Obama gets 90-95% of the black vote.

    They are his base voters.

    I don't think it is racism to point that out.
     
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    Inactive928 Banned

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    The only failure is
    a) the epic stupidity of those who buy into the argument presented by the OP, and
    b) the unbridled hatred of a black man they've never met that apparently prompts them to do so.
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    Inactive928 Banned

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    I'm sure you've heard the old saying: You can run, but you can't hide.
     
  16. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    Soooooo, you can't debunk the story. way to go lib
     
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    Let me fix that for you:

    Every time the leftist speaks... they are lying
     
  18. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    They don't even try, beyond simply insisting the story is a lie (without a single shred of rationale behind their claims to back them up).
    This is why intelligent, normal people reject the leftist way. It is dishonest and morally corrupt.
     
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    injest New Member

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    does ANYONE believe he is telling the truth about ANYTHING?

    I don't...I think he lies just to be lying.
     
  20. Inactive928

    Inactive928 Banned

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    Again, perception would indicate two possibilities: can't, or won't. It seems that perception is not in play in your reply.

    But basically, there is nothing to debunk. There is no cognitive argument presented. It is a dimwitted 'gotcha' borne of partisanship. To wit: The gov't gives grants to free healthcare clinics. The free clinics don't check ID. Therefore the gov't is giving free healthcare to illegal aliens.

    In a handful of cases it may turn out to be true, but as an indictment of the blanket statement that Obamacare is not going to cover illegal aliens en masse it is a particularly stupid argument, since only a Stalinist is going to want everyone needing indigent healthcare produce a citizenship document to receive it.

    You don't want that, do you? Granny dying on the steps of the free clinic of a heart attack because she can't quickly find her passport in her purse?


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U"]The Agenda Project: America The Beautiful - YouTube[/ame]
     
  21. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    "HHS spokeswoman Judy Andrews told CNSNews.com that “approximately $8.5 million will be used by 25 New Access Point awardees to target services to migrant and seasonal farm workers.”

    Your point would not be so impotent and sad if the HHS itself hadn't told people that $8.5 million would be targeted to "migrant and seasonal farm workers". But, it is and you fail to move the Truth Meter again.
     
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    Why are you repeating what I posted? Did you not understand it?

    Oh, I see... your claim is that all "migrant and seasonal farm workers" are illegal aliens. Do you have anything to back that up? A study? Anything? Sure, it might seem like 'common sense', but.... anything?
     
  23. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Ahhh, I see you begin to catch on. I'd say that's virtually 100% true.

    No, only common sense. However the Migrant Clinicians Network states "Migrant workers are predominantly Latino" and claims that about 48% of migrant workers are U.S. citizens or permanent residents of the U.S. (whatever that means) which necessarily means that about 52% of migrant workers are NOT citizens of this nation in any shape, way or form.

    I think that means the OP is well founded and indeed, as anyone might expect, the tradition of America giving all sorts of aid (medical and otherwise) to parasitic freeloaders is alive and flourishing under Obama (while American citizens watch their life savings disappear before their eyes). Too bad Obama isn't as worried about Americans as he is illegal immigrants.
     
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    So all farm workers are illegal aliens, is that what you guys are claiming?

    So if a conservative puts money in a bank, and a criminal robs the bank, can we claim conservatives fund criminals?
     
  25. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    I'm not claiming that. All farm workers as illegals is a very sweeping claim.
    However surely the overwhelming majority of farm workers are illegals from Mexico and Central America. Ever been to California?


    Huh?
     

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