Joe Wilson was right… Obamacare does cover illegal aliens

There are many non-profit cancer treatment centers across the U.S.
I have never heard someone being turned away for treatment of cancer.My dad when his kidneys failed didnt have healthcare but his treatment came from non-profit,non-Government funded groups.Obamas claim that a man died due to being dropped from his insurance and denied treatment due to pre-existing conditions is flat out bogus.

 

I dont believe you.

 

What? Why would I loath calling a pathological liar a liar? That has nothing to do with my health, your health or anyone's health. We have a slime ball liar in the White house that got the worst legislation in history passed with LIES, bribes and coercion of his own party.
He is a liar, that is a fact. obamacare is bad legislation, that is a fact. The House of Representatives has already voted on and passed a bill to repeal obamacare entirely, that is a fact.

Now, my health,,,,,,,,,,,,,I'm over 70 years old. I know a little something about health.
I had an eye socket fractured and my eye knocked out onto my cheek in a fight [I did not win] personal insurance paid the bill.
I spend 60 days in the hospital after Vietnam. Uncle Sam paid that bill. I figured getting shot and blown up was my "insurance premium." I'm eligible for somewhere between $2500 and $3000 per month in tax free disability pay from the military. I've never taken one cent of that since I don't consider myself disabled in any way.
And I had a massive heart attack in 2000. That took away the enormous energy needed to run my business, so I'm retired. I miss my energy level and physical strength like it was an old friend that passed away. My personal insurance paid for the heart attack.
A few years later I developed a lump below my ear. One doc removed it. It returned. Another removed it, it returned again. A third doc did major surgery on my face. Cutting behind and in front of my ear down to the bottom of my neck, and folding my face over on to the other side of my face and meticulously removed every shred of the lump. It was benign and has nor returned.
And as a youngster, I flipped a car end over end and they had to cut the steering column to free me from being pinned between the bent up column and the roof.
And I was certain that I was going to drown in a river in the jungle with a full pack, but the river, or God, decided to spit my exhausted body out of the current.

So go ahead and try to scare me about death. Bring your lunch, you'll be at it a while.

And as you hopefully have deduced by now, none of this has anything to do with odrama being the liar he is.

 

Obama is destroying our very fine private healthcare system in the hopes that someday millions of Americans will be sick after having lost their insurance.

 

Yukon's comments to this outrageous post are in bold type.

 

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What? Why would I loath calling a pathological liar a liar? That has nothing to do with my health, your health or anyone's health. We have a slime ball liar in the White house that got the worst legislation in history passed with LIES, bribes and coercion of his own party.
He is a liar, that is a fact. obamacare is bad legislation, that is a fact.
I detect a hint of RACISM.

I FIND TOTAL STUPIDITY. ONLY PITIFULLY WEAK MINDS STILL PLAY THE IMPOTENT "RACE CARD."

The House of Representatives has already voted on and passed a bill to repeal obamacare entirely, that is a fact.
Why then has it not been repealed ?

IF YOU KNEW HOW THE GOVERNMENT AND OUR LAWS WORKED, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO ASK THAT QUESTION. LOOK IT UP AND LEARN SOMETHING.

Now, my health,,,,,,,,,,,,,I'm over 70 years old. I know a little something about health.
At 70 you must be on Medicare (welfare)?

AGAIN THE EVIDENT LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. MEDICAID IS WELFARE. THE PEOPLE ON MEDICAID PAY NOTHING FOR IT AND PAID NOTHING IN TO IT.
THE PEOPLE ON MEDICARE WERE REQUIRED BY LAW TO PAY MEDICARE TAXES FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICARE. IF THEY WORKED ALL THEIR LIVES, THEY PAID MEDICARE TAXES [SEPARATE FROM INCOME TAXES] ALL THEIR WORKING LIVES. ONCE OVER 65, EVERY PERSON ON MEDICARE MUST PAY A MONTHLY PREMIUM OF 100 OR 115 DOLLARS PER MONTH DEPENDING ON THEIR INCOME. PLUS THEY MUST PAY A PART B DEDUCTIBLE OF $150 PER YEAR BEFORE MEDICARE KICKS IN. ADDITIONALLY THEY MUST PAY 20% OF THE PART B COSTS FOR EVERY COST INCURRED, NO LIMITS PER YEAR OR LIFETIME. PLUS THEY MUST PAY A PART A DEDUCTIBLE [hospital stays] OF $1200 PER 'BENEFIT PERIOD. WHICH IS 60 DAYS FROM BEING RELEASED FROM THE HOSPITAL. GO BACK 70 DAYS LATER, ANOTHER $1200 DEDUCTIBLE.

ONLY THE SLOWEST OF MARGINAL MINDS WOULD CALL THAT WELFARE.

I had an eye socket fractured and my eye knocked out onto my cheek in a fight [I did not win] personal insurance paid the bill.
As a Vietnam vet you are familiar with losing.

YOU PITIFUL PANSY PUNK, WE NEVER LOST A BATTLE IN VIETNAM. POLITICIANS AND LIBERALS LIKE YOU AT HOME GAVE IT AWAY.
KHE SANH IS THE BEST EXAMPLE. LIBERAL PAPERS HERE WROTE IT UP AS THE WORST DEFEAT IN MARINE HISTORY. THE ACTUAL SCORE, 312 MARINES KILLED. APPROX 2 FULL DIVISIONS OF NVA REGULARS KILLED AND THE 'TRAIL' MOVED INTO THE MOUNTAINS AWAY FROM KHE SANH. ADDING ABOUT 2 WEEKS TO THE NVA RESUPPLY CHAIN. ONCE THEY VEERED THE TRAIL AWAY FROM KHE SANH, THERE WAS NO REASON TO STAY THERE.

THE 'TET' OFFENSIVE WAS ANOTHER DEFEAT ACCORDING TO LOONY LIBERALS. WE TOOK SOME CASUALTIES, TOO MANY. BUT THEIR BODIES WERE STACKED IN THE 10'S OF THOUSANDS AND THEY NEVER AGAIN MOUNTED A MAJOR BATTLE.

I spend 60 days in the hospital after Vietnam. Uncle Sam paid that bill.
Then you were a WELFARE recipient.

TELL YOUR MOMMY YOUR DIAPER IS SOILED AGAIN. I CAN SMELL YOU FROM HERE. LOOK UP AMERICAN IN THE DICTIONARY. SEE IF YOU CAN DECIPHER WHAT ONE IS.


I figured getting shot and blown up was my "insurance premium." I'm eligible for somewhere between $2500 and $3000 per month in tax free disability pay from the military.
WELFARE people are sucking the system dry.

VETERANS DISABILITY PAY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WELFARE. ITS PAYBACK FOR AN ARM OR A LEG LEFT IN THE MUD SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD.

I've never taken one cent of that since I don't consider myself disabled in any way.
And I had a massive heart attack in 2000. That took away the enormous energy needed to run my business, so I'm retired. I miss my energy level and physical strength like it was an old friend that passed away. My personal insurance paid for the heart attack.
At 70 years of age I find it very difficult to believe that you have personnal insurance that will pay for a heart attack. Please dont insult my intelligence.


INSULT YOUR WHAT?? IF YOU HAD THE BRAIN POWER TO COMPREHEND WHAT YOU READ. UNION SCHOOL TEACHERS, YOUR EXCUSE? YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT I HAD MY HEART ATTACK 11 YEARS AGO. BUT I'LL BE PLEASED TO INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE SHOULD YOU EVER ACQUIRE ANY.

A few years later I developed a lump below my ear. One doc removed it. It returned. Another removed it, it returned again. A third doc did major surgery on my face. Cutting behind and in front of my ear down to the bottom of my neck, and folding my face over on to the other side of my face and meticulously removed every shred of the lump. It was benign and has nor returned.
Did welfare (military) pay for the surgery ?

ONCE AGAIN, HAD YOU ANY READING COMPREHENSION, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ASKED SUCH A STUPID QUESTION. GOD! WHAT A BORE.

And as a youngster, I flipped a car end over end and they had to cut the steering column to free me from being pinned between the bent up column and the roof.
And I was certain that I was going to drown in a river in the jungle with a full pack, but the river, or God, decided to spit my exhausted body out of the current.
You are a lucky devil.

FIRST THING YOU GOT RIGHT.

So go ahead and try to scare me about death. Bring your lunch, you'll be at it a while.
I wouldnt dream of trying to sacre a 'hard-nose' like you.

A TINY SHRED OF WISDOM, BUT WHAT IS sacre?

And as you hopefully have deduced by now, none of this has anything to do with odrama being the liar he is.
President Bush, Junior was the LIAR not President Obama. President Bush, Junior lied and soldiers died.

MORE EXAMPLES OF NO INTELLIGENCE. THE "BUSH LIED" BS IS LIBERAL PROPAGANDA TO COVER FOR THE FACT THAT THEY VOTED FOR THE IRAQ AND AFGHAN WARS. THEY VOTED FOR THEM BASED ON THE INTELLIGENCE THAT WAS AVAILABLE AT THE TIME. THE INTELLIGENCE WAS MOSTLY FAULTY [YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT FROM AN EXPERTS POSITION]
WE KNOW THAT HUSSEIN USED GAS ON HIS OWN PEOPLE AND ON THE IRANIAN SOLDIERS IN THE IRAQ-IRAN WAR BEFORE WE WENT TO WAR THERE. ALSO WE KNOW THAT THE ISRAELIS TOOK OUT HUSSEIN S NUCLEAR FACILITY WITH A PRECISION AIR STRIKE, SOME YEARS PRIOR. THAT WAS A REACTOR THAT COULD MAKE BOMB MATERIALS THAT OUR GOOD FRIENDS THE FRENCH SOLD TO SADDAM.

AND ODRAMA LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING. THAT HE WAS EVER A CONSTITUTIONAL LAW PROFESSOR IS ONE. THAT HE HAD A DEBT REDUCTION PLAN WAS THE LATEST. HE MADE OVER 500 CAMPAIGN PROMISES, HE HAS NOT KEPT OVER 350 OF THOSE. THAT INSURANCE CANCELED A CANCER PATIENTS INSURANCE AND LET THE MAN DIE IS THE ONE HE TOLD OVER AND OVER TRYING TO GET OBAMACARE PASSED. A LAW PASSED ON LIES, CANNOT, BE A GOOD LAW. BUT I KNOW THAT LIBERALS LIVE ON THE LACK OF PRINCIPLES THAT "THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS." YOU'LL NEED TO LOOK THAT UP TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS.

 

Dan,

I try to respect elderly people but most of what you post appears to be the rantings of senility - 70 year olds experience this disease. I respectfully suggest you see a Doctor for a checkup - make sure WELFARE approve of the visit so you wont have to pay.

 

Obama Lied???

Gosh, Im shocked....

 

You lack the ability to read and infer I'm senile? Dealing with mud mired, mini-minds like yours is such a bore. You know dick about life and your mind is closed to any learning. Gnats have deserved more respect than you.

 

I just had that in December....not fun....nor cheap...even WITH insurance.

 

The difference between major and minor surgery is never fun. Minor surgery is surgery on someone else,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,If I'm the one getting cut, its major surgery!

I don't remember what my share was, a couple of grand I think. $1800. sticks in my mind. But no lump, and a benign lump, are the only parts I worried about.

 

hey im with you...

did you end up with any facial paralysis?

 

No, luckily. The lipoma was wrapped around the facial nerve and the Doc warned that paralysis was a possibility. That's why he opened me up so extensively, so he'd have room to work. My ear and jaw below were very numb to somewhat numb for about 6 months. But full sensation did return. The scar is like a Y over a backward J but is all but invisible.

 

Obama in a 2009 address to a joint session of Congress said that the healthcare reform law would not cover illegal immigrants, prompting Joe Wilsons righteous indignation in shouting "you lie" It appears Wilson was right. Wilson said Wednesday that a recent award of $28.8 million to 67 community healthcare centers around the country would inevitably end up benefiting illegal immigrants, contrary to Obama’s pledge.

Of that $28.8 million, $8.5 million is earmarked to target migrant and seasonal farm workers — a group that Wilson claims is comprised of illegal immigrants. So in fact Joe Wilson was right. many of Americas 20 million illegals work in the field. They work for low wages America promotes by having porous borders and sactuary cities Then you add food stamps and welfare to the plight of a truly needy minority and you get the dependant class. perpetually poor, perpetually uneducated, mosty without hope. The real tradegy is not the healtcare going to this ignored class of people but the system that perpetuates it for 50 years

 

You are very correct, its about Liberty.

Thanks for sharing!

This part was very alarming.

"Many of Americas 20 million illegals work in the field. They work for low wages America promotes by having porous borders and sactuary cities. Then you add food stamps and welfare to the plight of a truly needy minority and you get the dependant class."

These immigrants must now be nurtured and cared for by the U.S. taxpayers ... "Socialism", courtesy of Barack Obama, is now in its finest hour!




Thanks to the ObamaCare law, an astonishing 85 million people will soon be enrolled in Medicaid (or the children's version of it) by 2014 -- nearly a third of all Americans below 65. And what about "shared sacrifice"? The Obama health law imposed plenty of sacrifice on seniors and baby boomers: It slashed funding for Medicare by $500 billion over the next decade. It uses those "savings" to pay for two entitlements: a huge increase in Medicaid enrollment and new subsidies for middle-income Americans (families earning up to $88,000 a year) to pay for private health care plans Unfortunately, when push comes to shove, even this amount will not be sufficient to cover all of these millions of new enrollees!

 

To think there are still leftists on this forum that refuse to believe that obama is a socialist. What more does he need to do to wake these libs/leftists up to reality?

 

Dupe:
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...ight-obamacare-does-cover-illegal-aliens.html

 

I personally do not CARE that he may be more socialist than many of today's right-wing extremists would prefer ; and as he is (leaning as far to the right as he does)... he's certainly no significant threat to capitalists in America.

Actually, the "libs/leftists" want to see MANY MORE politicians leaning FURTHER "Left", to properly 'counter' the (frankly) UGLY Right-leaning we've all seen in the last 12+ years.

Make no mistake about it... while many on the Right foolishly think this is all about "Obama", those in the middle class and working people of America are onto the schemes, prejudices and money-grabbing (from 'corporations') which pervades interests on the "Right". We're listening and watching (just as in Wisconsin and Ohio); now the time to ACT (or react) is upon the nation.

In case no one has noticed... certain imbalances and injustices have begun to mobilize Americans on the "Left"; it has been a goo while coming, but I'm glad to see it! The President leaning LEFT... does not concern most Americans, as much as some one the right with 'extreme' views, tend to believe.

 

Your responses are disgusting, and evidence of your failure to win the debate.

 

sounds like you went through the same thing I did....glad to hear it worked out.