Good Grief, a 7 year old transgender with transgender "dad"

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  1. Slyhunter

    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    ok, what qualify's him/her/it to be an expert. What are there credentials.
    You don't know because there isn't one it's a figment of the fathers imagination. Prove me wrong.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As a society, when it comes to the welfare of children, we are obliged to be logical, at the very least.
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    An 18 month old child of course we would assume that. I mean like duh.
     
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    You have the burden of proof. You claim he is imagining something, that is up to you to prove.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    The child is now 7. Is he still being influenced?
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did OJ kill 2 people?
    Did Michael Jackson act inappropriately with children?
    Did Casey Anthony kill her child?
    Did Mel Gibson abuse his wife?
     
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    You are now how old?
    Do your parents have influence in your life?
    Did your upbringing?
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    1. Legally, no.
    2. Legally, no.
    3. Legally no - as all three were found not guilty.

    As for Mel Gibson, can't remember what happened there.

    I assume you have a point?
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I will be 28 on Thursday.
    I assume my parents did influence me, but I was able to make my own decisions and knew what I wanted from a young age.

    Your point?
     
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    Wrong he's claiming a positive that the experts exist therefore it's up to him to prove that they are real and not figment of his imagination. I don't have to prove a negative.
     
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    Of course he is.
    I was being influenced by my dad in divorce court at the age of 12. I know how hard such influence can be on a child.
     
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    Well... first of all OJ was found guilty of wrongful death. So legally yes?

    And being found not guilty, does not mean that a thing was not done, it meant it could not be proven. If I kill you, and get away with it, it doesn't mean I didn't kill you. I am asking you whether or not you believe these things occurred. Of course I have a point. It does not have to be crystal clear before I get to it... that is not a pre-requisite.

    Mel Gibson paid her off and she dropped everything.
     
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    Do I believe those things you mentioned occurred?

    I am unsure about OJ.
    Casey Anthony is likely guilty, but I have doubt.
    Unsure about Jackson.
    And Mel Gibson is a loser who likely did bash his girlfriend.

    Just because you think something happened doesn't mean it did, or that it is, though.
     
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    But my point is that you don't know. None of us do, so why assume we know what is happening in the household of a person we will never meet?
     
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    It would be stupid and narrow-minded to assume otherwise.
     
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    Because of the obvious implications and the evidence by the parents own admission that they believe an 18 month old understands what you RATIONALLY have admitted they cannot.

    Because THE MENTION OF IT IS LUDICROUS and casts a very serious, very clear dark cloud over their judgment as a rational human being. That the assertion is CLEARLY a projection of their own identity crisis onto a child, and has done so since at least the age of 1.

    My cat thinks he is a person.

    Your answers to the previous questions did not lead where I they might, so my point is moot. Thank you for answering.
     
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    Forgot about this......

    Have to disagree w/you about this - it's called pedophilia. These guys are born w/this evil gene (or seed?) and we know there's no cure for it. Not even chemical castration is 100% effective......

    Actually, I believe most people are born the way they are and that includes homosexuality. Recently I was talking to a neighbor who brought up this subject and she said she believes it's a choice. I asked her when she made the choice to be straight and she said "I was born that way." I said "Bingo" and left......

    Another reason - I had friends who had 4 sons. 3 were straight and one was gay. What happened? Kevin was born to the same parents, loved & nurtured the same like the other 3, taught the same family values, same everything ..... why was he different?

    I suppose some homosexuals are a product of their environment, but think the majority are born w/this particular ..... gene?

    Anyway, that's what I believe and now my pillow is calling me - g'nite....
     
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    A hormonal imbalance is not a gene. A series of experiences is not genetic. Your parents are not your sole environmental influence either.

    Odd that most pedophiles were victims themselves if it is a "gene"... dontcha think? A lot of gays had inappropriate sexual exposure at early ages too...


    There is no simple or singular cause for sexual abnormality. There are culminations of varying factors. If we just blame it on "genes" it makes it simple for us to comprehend, it allows us to evade causation or blame, have uncomfortable conversations, think uncomfortable thoughts... it lets us identify, separate... it is easy for everyone to fill all of these gaps with a "gene". The science simply does not support it.

    It is complicated.
     
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    Well, CONGRATS! A bouncing baby boy will be arriving! When is he due? You & wife will have so much fun b/c they really are a different type of animal from a girl in many ways.... well, you'll find out ......... hehehehe......

    "Cypher"? That's .... not a good choice, dude! Logan is a good masculine name. I like it. Have you tho't about buying a baby book on names? They're fun to read......
     
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    Mak, YOU haven't spoken to or met these 'experts' or know nothing about them either! Yet you're willing to put all your trust and faith in them?

    Yes, I do believe the transgender brainwashed his daughter - not son! He wants her to be his son. Where is your proof he didn't - under these circumstances where he said she told him at age 18 months "I'm a boy"....

    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what he did to her thru out the next 7 yrs!
     
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    New years.

    Cipher is an awesome name. Names used to have meaning, and in non-English speaking countries often still do. Christianity really screwed up names and meanings... transliterating all of the meanings out of them trying to come up with phonetic representations in language after language. Hell the letter J didn't even exist till the 14th or 15th century. Jesus my ass. Concatenation of Yeshua and Zeus. Basically JewZeus. I meant Cipher btw. I prattle on about meaning and misspell it giving another meaning... so wtf do I know... anyway... I wanted something that held meaning, and sounded (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)in.

    No baby name books I don't think. I think it is gonna be Logan.
     
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    First the girl needs to be taken to a good, credible board-certified child psychologist so he can unscramble her brain! And slowly take it from there....
     
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    Thanks you .... excellent point.
     
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    Oh crap ..... that's your answer?:twisted:
     
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    I would have expected the answer to be that the other students have no business being uncomfortable...

    Special treatment was a close second though.
     
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