Man pulls his eyes out of his head

How is this relevant? The verse is quite clear.

 

Your OP was all about taking things 'literally." Sounds like your response to my analysis regarding your 'literal integrity' has offended you..sorry, but as the umpire says, "I calls em likes I sees em."


And, BTW, you have 'rightly' judged yourself in this post:

 

It is relevant because you implied in the OP that Christians are so brainwashed that they would do this. The fact that you have only shown ONE (1) Christian that has ever done so is clear evidence that your implication is wrong.

One person doing something nutty like this out of countless millions is hardly evidence that the religion is brainwashing people.

 

No, my issue is that the book would suggest such a thing. If the verse is not to be taken literally, there are any number of metaphors that would suffice to convey the message without advocating self harm.

 

Maybe the author felt that the average person has enough common sense to know that it is a metaphor.

I mean, if so, he appears to be correct. How many Christians have you found so far that have actually torn their eyes out of their head due to this verse?

 

How many people would be committed to any cause enough to rip out their own eyes?

Not many.

 

Exactly. Thats my point. How many Christians, even fanatical extremists, have torn out their eyes?

I think it is safe to say that this guy has problems that would have surfaced in a similar way no matter what religion he embraced.

 

VERY RELAVENT!!!!

If you think that someone who goes to church every Sunday and feeds the poor in their spare time is in prison, you have GOT to be kidding me!

Those who are in there - FOUND God there or their parents are something and they are not practiced in their faith. Thus, athiest....

I have a cousin who's robbed more banks than the Dalton Boys and say he's Protestant. Boy hasn't been to church since he was 6... He's an athiest and doesn't believe in God, but he'll say that when he's locked up, because God is all he's got in prison...

Is that to hard to understand?

Those people there - are not Christians, nor of any faith. If they were of that faith - THEY WOULDN'T BE IN JAIL GENIUS?!?!?!

People of faith don't break rules - ESPECIALLY the 10 Commandments!!!

 

I don't deny the man having issues, however the verse obviously inspired him to do so.

 

Holy (*)(*)(*)(*). This makes absolutely no sense what so ever to speak of.

Again, giving me flashbacks to your "evolution is a joke" thread.

 

Only for the insane? Nah, but are there plenty of relgious nutballs? Hell yes. Don't use examoples of a crazy religious individual to claim the entire religion is crazy. If there was an atheistic chainsaw murderer does that make all athiests murderers?

 

I think the nexus is too clear for mere coincidence.

 

So America's founders were all insane. Right?

 

Yes, only for the insane.

Are All Christians Schizophrenic? Religious People Fit Classic Symptoms of Mental Disease

Let me know when you hear of an atheist state that Evolution talks to them

 

Its a myth that our founding fathers were christians.

Also, they lived in a period when man didn’t have answers to the Universe. Any type of deity is jsut as plausible when you have no evidence to say otherwise. .

 

Actually, the overwhelming majority were just that - though many atheists convince themselves otherwise by pretending America was only founded by maybe half a dozen people, whom they imagine would have been atheists had they been born in 1950.

 

Were United States founding fathers Christian?

Just because they were 'godly' men, does not make them christians. And as noted, they lived in a time when any god was just as plausible as any other explanation for the universe. Not that I expect this to sink in.

 

How about if they professed to be Christians? Does that make them Christians? Or do they have to meet some atheist's definition of "Christian" to be Christians?

I live in a time when only God is a plausible explanation for the existence of humanity...but of course for those who have forgotten what it means to be human, I don't expect that to sink in.

 

Ive seen plenty of people on this forum profess to be christians but are not.

Willful ignorance is no excuse. Humans evolved from a ape like creature that us and the Chimpanzee once shared. No god needed. Human Chromosome 2 proves this.

Our foundling fathers didn’t even know what a Chromosome was.

 

So because an atheist thinks some professing Christians here are pretenders, we are logically bound to assume the overwhelming majority of the Founders were not Christians. Have I got that about right?

You speak more truly than you know.

You have no idea what the Hell you're talking about. You're just passing on a lie that was passed on to you by similarly gullible tools.

And is it not a shame that even so, the least of them had a better understanding of humanity than you do?

 

I was showing the fallacy in your thinking that if someone claims to be something, then then that means they are.

Yes and your next statement proves this:

Google is your friend. You can gain all the information you wish on Human Chromosome 2. But its obviously you don’t. You would rather just rant that I don't “have no idea what the Hell you're talking about'.

As I stated, willful ignorance is no excuse.

Care to tell me what 'humanity' has to do with our fore fathers not having the knowledge to know whether or not any god exists?

 

No, you were trying to divert attention from me showing that your preposterous assertion that the Christianity of the Founders is a myth is plainly contradicted by the historical facts.

Of course I don't bother, because it's completely irrelevant. If you had even the merest wisp of a clue about what humanity entails, you'd understand that.

 

You repsonded to Post #67 with this:

I showed you the fallacy of this thinking and now I’m the one trying to divert attention away?

What a hoot!

If you want to claim this:

Then be prepared to defend this position. Obviously you cannot, because all you an say is that it is 'irrelevant'. If you cannot keep up with debates, then why are you here?

 

What is there, an echo in here?

It doesn't need defending, because it is self-evidently true.

You haven't attacked it - unless throwing a handful of excrement constitutes an attack on a battleship.

 

You may live in a place where only God is a plausible explanation for the existence of humanity, but there has never been such a time.