Man pulls his eyes out of his head

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  1. FreeWare

    FreeWare Active Member Past Donor

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    He could be an android.
     
  2. yguy

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    Yeah, swell, thanks for nothing.
    I've seen a lab rat in an enclosure with several objects build a ladder out of them to get food that was up on a ledge. Is that rational thought? And if it is, do you think the difference between humans and animals is merely that we can solve more complex problems?
     
  3. rstones199

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    The only true difference between humans and the rest of the Animal Kingdom, is we have the capability for complex speech. That’s it. That is our evolutionary advantage over other species on this planet. Every single specie on this planet has one advantage over others to keep the species alive. Trying running down a Cheetah or run from a Cheetah. GFL there.
     
  4. Really People?

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    See?

    Why just disregard something because you disagree with it?

    There are different levels of rational thought, based on brain function, etc...

    Humans are animals...

    That's not saying we're the same as monkeys, or dogs or anything...
     
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    Actually, that has been done. Animals pant, humans sweat. Our distant ancestors, and currently some tribes still do this. Humans have the great endurance via our sweating vs panting. Run an animal down, it will at some point just stand still waiting to be killed as it's system of panting can only go so far.
     
  6. yguy

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    I'm sure you'll all be very happy together. Just stay the Hell away from me.

    No wonder you don't understand anything worth understanding.

    See what?
    How about if I disregard it because it's idiotic? That OK by you?
    In case you've forgotten, the question was:
    do you think the difference between humans and animals is merely that we can solve more complex problems? ​
    Yes or no?
     
  7. DBM aka FDS

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    YOU'VE BEEN LEARNED!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You finally realized you are not an ape, but part of the Ape Family of life... Thank you for learning and using the correct wording when discussing biology!

    Keep it up!!!

    :)

    and I am being serious also... You will be repped...
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Unless you speak Chicken - you have no clue how complex their language is...

    Question then - since you don't know who a certain race formerly called Goliath, is their language more complex of less complex to that of Vietnamese?

    I mean - you speak neither, but you obviously have an opinion. So, if you have a opinion, please state it as an opinion instead of "matter of fact" like you've done research outside of a quick Google Search please...

    :)
     
  9. rstones199

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    This is you are so wrong that it is not even funny. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the typical Theist. One that has lost the ability to think for themselves.

    The reason that humans have been able to climb our way to the top of the food chain in the animal kingdom is because of our capability for speech. Our complex speech has allowed us to do one important thing that other animals simply cannot do. We are able to pass on knowledge from one generation to another in written form. And I’m not talking just parent to child, I'm talking great great great great.......... grandparent to great great great great.......... grandchild. Yes, I can go back and read Socrates written works. Name me another animal that can go back many generations and see what their past species has done.

    Did man fly to the moon a week after the Wright Brothers flew the first airplane? Of-course not. It took one whole country (The US) to do it. The knowledge to fly man to the moon was built on 65+ years of trial and error. Trial and error that could be read 1 year, 5 years 10 years, 20 years, etc after an event occurred.

    Buildings are now more safe than they were 100 years ago. What animal can say that? None. Why? Because of speech we are able to see how buildings were made, built and designed from many years ago, and today we can improve on those designs that worked. I don’t see beavers improving their dam making skills, like humans have in their building skills.

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    Necessity is the mother of all inventions. When man stops thinking, man stops progressing. We stopped progressing for 1,000 years due to religion and this insane idea of 'god'. Not only did we stop progressing, we actually LOST progression. We just assumed there was a 'god' that created all this, so mankind stopped thinking.

    And what is sad, is I see this in the religious sheep running around. They can never think deeper into a subject. They THINK they have all the answers in a book, so they stop thinking and stop asking questions. The necessity to innovate (A.K.A. find real answer to the universe) is gone.

    No yguy, I understand perfectly. You are the one that does not.
     
  10. rstones199

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWSx0bBiNIs&feature=related"]Jack Nicholson - You can't handle the truth - YouTube[/ame]

    I think this video sums up your understanding of mankind.
     
  11. Really People?

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    What's idiotic about it?

    It's backed by quite a bit of scientific research...

    There's tons of differences between us and lesser animals...

    Doesn't mean we don't fall under the same kingdom...
     
  12. yguy

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    Told you already, not telling you again.
    There is no scientific research demonstrating that humans are animals - unless by "scientific" you mean "propagandistic".
    Please, there are "tons of differences" between dogs and cats. I'm not talking about such inane trivialities as you obviously have in mind.
     
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    Once again you are wrong. Human Chromosome 2 proves we are part of the Great Ape Family.
     
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    So, all science is propaganda?
     
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    Yes, according to the religious nut-jobs. They have to believe that, otherwise their belief system would come crashing down, and they couldn't have that could they?
     
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    I don't see why people have trouble thinking the possibility that the two, being God and science, could coexist...

    That's where the division comes in...

    I haven't really followed religion for quite some time, but, even when I really did, I never saw any problem with the two coexisting...

    Sure, God can be out there, and, why can't evolution be the vehicle for Creation at the same time?

    The way I see it, if you can put enough faith in a being you've never physically seen to shape and mold your entire life around the teachings of said being, then, why does that make scientific findings, backed by tons upon tons of reputable research, incorrect?

    I think the two could coexist...

    But, that goes the same for atheists who feel the need to jump on Christianity at every turn...

    Sure, the guy who did this a nut...

    No question...

    However, he is no more a representative of the true meaning of Christianity than the idiot who blows himself up in a market full innocent men, women, & children is a representative of the true meaning & teachings of Islam...
     
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    The problem with 'gods' is once you give them attributes, then they can be proven wrong.

    We know plenty about the 'god' the bible speaks of. We can prove much of the bible to be false, therefore we prove the 'god' in the bible to be false. That doesn't mean **a** 'god' cannot exist. You cannot prove something does not exist.
     
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    I hear you...

    I'm just saying...

    First, this bugs me to a degree...

    I don't understand why many "hardcore" Christians are so dismissive of science...

    Science is backed by research...

    Have there been scientific findings that were off?

    Sure...

    But, usually scientists are pretty particular about putting their names out there behind something without proper research...

    Point being, I don't get why people can put 100% faith in something they've never seen (not knocking people's faith in God, per se, I mean, whatever gets you through the day or makes you a better person), and are willing to completely dismiss something that we can see clear evidence of...

    On the other hand, I don't get atheists' apparent need (not all of them, of course) to belittle someone else's beliefs because you don't believe in them...

    If an atheist doesn't believe in God, fine...

    Doesn't mean that nobody else should be allowed to...

    Some people need a sense of a higher being guiding them of something like that...

    That doesn't make them any less intelligent...

    Let people have their own beliefs...
     
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    The idiocy of the question is surpassed only by its dishonesty. hth
     
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    Christians dismiss it, because they know it disputes their bible.

    If god is perfect, then the bible must also be perfect. Hence if science disputes the bible, then the only conclusion is that science is wrong....As idiotic as that is.
     
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    The only dishonesty is the religious folk who deny science.
     
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    What's dishonest about it?

    You said:

    That's the vibe I got from it...

    I'm just looking for an answer...

    I'm not attacking Christianity...

    I'm just confused about how both sides feel the need to dismiss the other...

    I guess that may be the case for some...

    *shrug*

    I just don't see the need to be either dismissive or offensive, from either side...
     
  23. yguy

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    Sure you did, because dishonest people get bad vibes from the truth, so when they hear it they often respond by twisting it into something they think they can discredit.
    You're welcome.
    Then why do you see a need to be dishonest?
     
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    If I were to keep telling you that 2 + 2 was 5, would you just dismiss what I say?
     
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    Problem is, what you think the 'truth' is, is nothing but lies.
     

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