Herman Cain Believes That If You're NOT Rich Then It's YOUR FAULT!

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  1. Bluesguy

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    No SS tax, no medicare tax, no medicaid tax, 9% income tax and capital gains tax, lower taxes of products due to lower corporate tax.
     
  2. gregdavidson

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    You'd better hope Mitt Romney gets nominated. Without him you guys are NOTHING.
     
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    Do you have anything of substance to post?
     
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    I'm happy that the liberals are anti-Cain for his policies and not because they are racists. Is there some way we conservatives could be anti-obama and his policies without being racist?
     
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    If you aren't rich it is your fault, you did something to make or lose money
     
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    I think people are forgetting what Herman Cain actually said... "Don't blame Wall Street," Cain said. "Don't blame the big banks. If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself."

    That's bull! If I'm rich and I don't have a job its not my fault. But if I'm not rich and I still don't have a job... its magically my fault? That makes no logical sense to me and its way too vague for anyone to say they agree.

    The rich guy without a job could have just received an inheritance from his dead father, quit his job and gone on a spending spree in Italy. The non rich (which doesn't automatically mean poor....) guy without a job could have just been laid off because his job was sent overseas and now has to find a place that's hiring and fight 10 other people for the same position... How is it the non rich guy's fault he doesn't have a job, but not the rich guy??????

    The supporters of that statement need to stop and think about what Cain really said and realize how ridiculous all of this really is!
     
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    That is a lie. Our system isn't designed for everyone to be rich as long as they work hard for it. The majority of people will remain in the economic classes they were born into regardless of how smart they are and/or how hard they work. Stop buying the BS talking points being fed to you.

    The working class is rising up, not because they desire to be wealthy, but because they want to be able to make ends meet on a regular basis and maintain the standard of living they have been working for their whole lives. They want to be able to rely on the US economy to be stable enough for them to be able to feel secure in their jobs.

    The ultra wealthy have been fostering a system in which short term profits are preferable to long term stability and growth. This is what has resulted in the economic collapse in the US and globally. We have been on an unsustainable course for decades, and it has widened the gap of wealth disparity to a degree that makes it impossible for the system to work.
     
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    Here's something of substance.

    In the previous election you guys screwed things up for your BEST candidate by choosing McCain. You guys are going to screw everything AGAIN by choosing another Cain, only this one doesn't include the Happy Meal named Sarah Palin. Is it because Romney seems to be more of an independent than a Republican?
     
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    You are the one posting lies.

    NO ONE and NO SYSTEM is preventing anyone from becoming rich. Everyone in this nation has an equal opportunity to become rich. The "RICH" that the envious thugs rail against ARE the proof of my statement. The overwhelming majority of the rich in this country became rich in their own working lifetimes. No inheritance, no old money, they worked hard AND smart and made their riches THEMSELVES.
    And the newly rich seem to draw the most ire from the envious. They should be the vision of a possible future for those that have not. Instead the envious hate them for flashing the wealth. But the envious complain about the old money rich that they never see. The old money is quiet and reserved and not flashy. The envious see the new rich and blame the old rich.

    There is no gate that one must pass through to become rich in the USA.
     
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    I'm not a Republican.

    So got anything of substance to post?
     
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    Then what are you?
     
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    As far as voting, Independent.
     
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    Great! Maybe you should check out my latest post in the Political Opinions section.
     
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    You guys? What do you call yourself.... Obama minion?

    The very fact the party dems are creaming for Romney is the reason he shouldn't be the nominee.
     
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    It doesn't matter if everyone has an equal opportunity to become rich, and they don't, but the fact of the matter is that not everyone can become rich. It is mathematically impossible. There will always be more people with less than the average and fewer people with more than the average. The more wealth gets concentrated towards the top, the less there is to go around at the bottom. There is no way around it with anecdotal evidence of individual success stories nor specious claims of envy.
     
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    I never said EVERYONE can become rich. FAIR means that everyone has an equal opportunity to bring what they have to the game. If they don't have the right stuff, they don't make. But the opportunity is there.

    "The more wealth gets concentrated towards the top, the less there is to go around at the bottom." That is your statement and it is an outright lie.

    There is no finite amount of wealth available. Until Jobs and Gates came along there wasn't .50 cents in personal computers worldwide. Now its a trillion dollar industry on its own and has spawned the cell phone industry and much more. All ADDITIONAL wealth on top of what already existed. And just the computer/associated industry has produced MILLIONS of millionaires at NO COST to the existing economy.

    Unlimited wealth is available to those that have what it takes to earn it. As is unlimited Doom and Gloom available to those who enjoy wallowing in it and blaming anyone and everyone else for their own failings.

    We have glass half full people and we have glass half empty people and we have people like you that think there never was a glass or any water and all of life is a desert. For you, IT IS!
     
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    Actually no. The Democrats are secretly rooting for Cain. Why do you think David Gregory didn't eat him alive last Sunday on Meet The Press? It's because there's no way in h*** he's going to win. His 999 plan is way to radical. And his 16% sales tax is probably the most radical part.
     
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    I can't find it! Could you post the list of all president that have been reelected with unemployment rates over 9%? 8.8%?
     
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    I read post in the section regularly, what are you specifically speaking of?
     
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    He's only proposing a 9% sales tax, he has nothing to do with what states and local government set as their tax rate.
     
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    Originally Posted by Dan40 View Post
    I can't find it! Could you post the list of all president that have been reelected with unemployment rates over 9%? 8.8%?

    But this restriction sent unemployment up temporarily until both inflation and unemployment were tamed at the end of his first term (Unmployment=7.3%, Inflation=3.53).

    Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/During_Ro...ncy_what_happen_to_unemployment#ixzz1bGPO8JJh
     
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    The federal sales tax DOESN'T exist right now. Nobody wants to pay an additional 9% on top of their current sales tax. And nobody want to pay 9% sales tax on food which isn't currently charged in Florida.
     
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    I wasn't talking about opportunity, I was talking about access to wealth. The more wealth becomes concentrated towards the top, the less there is to go around.

    That is my statement and I stand by it.

    That's all well and good, but it doesn't contradict my assertion. It is simple mathematics, the more concentrated at the top, the less there is for everyone else. It's undeniable.

    That is an inaccurate assertion made on adhesion to theory.


    I don't deny that statement to be true. Surely there is doom and gloom in line for those wallowing in their own doom and gloom and refusing to do anything about it. That is not a reasonable explanation as to why there are poor people, though.

    LOL! That is not me at all. I am an eternal optimist. If I wasn't, I'd be throwing my hands up and settling for things to remain as they are.
     
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    Evidently you're a new breed, the covert eternal optimist. Your cover is excellent.
     

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