Russia Fires Back With Its Own Evidence

Not even Russia is pushing that nonsense.

 

And the US is parroting 'evidence' from these ass-clowns?

http://rt.com/news/174868-ukraine-buk-falsification-continues/

 

LOL, like Russian State controlled media would dare to say anything near the truth that implicates Russia.

 

Is that empty post the best you've got?

Noted.

 

Sate owned is better then corporation owned. The state is a responsible figure and you know the source. Corporation owned media is a complete prostitute, CNN included. Even BBC is not longer trustworthy. To know the truth, watch alternative sources and think.

 

It's a reasonable suspect.

 

LOL, State owned is better? I guess, if you love your State propaganda.

 

This comes not from love. This comes from observations of facts and what and how it is delivered, negative connotation repeated again and again, pictures emphasizing unfavorable facial expression, selective approach to what is news and what is not - all methods aimed for creating desirable feelings, prejudice and anger. This is what Murdock's media is doing. Will you become shocked, if next wave of evidence would show that Malaysian airplane was brought down by the Maidan government of Kiev? You will not believe it, because Murdock's media had told you that could be only propaganda. Our politicians are directly involved in propaganda. This is why majority of Americans already love Israel, despite its continuous war crimes, and hate Russia. This is what Murdock's media is working on.

 

Yet you don't even see it in the propaganda you believe.

 

Yes it is, watch the video.

 

Your evidence for a Ukrainian fighter escort at the time of the crash is non-existent, "inforwars" (*)(*)(*)(*)ing really pal? Give us a break will you? The SU-25 has a max ceiling without armament 10,000 feet below the height which the Malaysian airliner was operating, we already know for a fact that the Russian terrorists have the BUK system and they have admitted to shooting down a plane at the exact same time at the exact same place that the Malaysian plane went down, the problem for them is that no Ukrainian military transport plane was shot down at that place or time.

 

No it was not, in the photographs they presented the plane shown is labeled as an SU-25. They didn't say it could be an SU25 they said it WAS an SU25 and that is the lie that is now being propagated by the Russian Ministry of Propaganda as well:



“A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday.

“[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane,” he stated.

“The SU-25 fighter jet can gain an altitude of 10km, according to its specification,” he added. “It’s equipped with air-to-air R-60 missiles that can hit a target at a distance up to 12km, up to 5km for sure.”

http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/

So stop your blatant lies.

Your radar evidence consists of stills provided from the Russian military who provided the Russian terrorists with the BUK system, they have not been corroborated by any other source, and lack any credibility whatsoever.

 

Yes we know the CIA now controls Human Rights Watch and the United Nations, again this is the level of intellect one can expect from defenders of Putin and the Russian terrorists who shot down a civilian airliner and are committing mass murder and ethnic cleansing in the Ukraine.

 

The people rushing to the defense of Russia over this incident remind me of all the Uruguayan football (soccer) fans following the Luis "The Cannibal" Suarez following his biting incident and suspension in the World Cup. They are so invested in the Russian side of the Ukraine issue (or are so anti-American, or both) that they are willing to excuse anything so long as they can potentially "win". Some things are not defensible, and they should get a grip and admit it to themselves.

 

A proof to my allegation.

 

nah, this is your level of intellect that you don't even question the mass media's version of the events...

neither Russia nor Putin have anything to do with downing of that Malay plane, but the US certainly has.

 

The plain was downed by the Maidan government of Kiev. They have the strongest motive to do so and they orchestrated the "accident". What was the purpose of Ukrainian military jet following the airliner?

 

http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-investigators-still-access-ukraine-crash-154253664.html

rebel leader has admitted that they had BUK missiles, and likely shot down the airliner...due to Ukrainian provocations.

 

they might have whatever missiles but they did not shoot down the airliner and never would.

 

i suspect in a few weeks they will admit they shot it down, by accident.

they will blame the Ukrainians for flying military planes in "their" airspace, blame the world for flying passenger planes in a war zone, etc etc.

 

let's wait and see then, why jump to conclusions and hasten sanctions, which is ridicolous on the part of the West.

 

So and where you find link between fact of presence of unidentified object and assumption that it CAN be Su-25?

Ok. See all materials from http://stat.multimedia.mil.ru/multimedia/photo/gallery.htm?id=17402@cmsPhotoGallery



Where you find Su-25? I understand that you don't speak Russian but please try to find only two symbols and two digits "Су-25". Not found... Unidentified object described as №3505. Who is a liar?

It was a graph based on data from military radars. But they also show video from civil radar in Rostov (air traffic management system) http://stat.multimedia.mil.ru/multimedia/video/clips/more.htm?id=5086@morfVideoAudioFile

Try to find Su-25 or Су-25 on this video. Not found... So stop you blatant lies.

 

Link: http://en.ria.ru/world/20140723/191...thority-to-Take-Part-in-Deciphering-MH17.html

MOSCOW, July 23 (RIA Novosti) – The Moscow-based Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC) said Wednesday its expert will take part in retrieving and deciphering data from black boxes of the crashed Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 plane.

"On 22 July 2014 an official representative of IAC joined the work of international commission on the investigation of the incident with Boeing 777 aircraft which was established after the adoption of the UN Security Council Resolution and will participate in the reading of flight recorders “black boxes” data in the UK," the IAC statement says.

IAC is an organization overseeing civil aviation in Russia and a number of former Soviet republics, including Ukraine, where the Malaysian plane crashed last week, killing all 298 people on board.

Earlier in the day, MH17 black boxes were delivered to the United Kingdom, where they will be studied by Air Accidents Investigation Branch experts in Farnborough. It’s one of the two labs in Europe that can extract data from flight recorders. The second one is located in Italy. According to the UK officials, the deciphering process may take about two days.

The Dutch authorities-headed international team of 24 experts, including Russian and Ukrainian analysts, will carry an investigation into the circumstances of the MH17 catastrophe.

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They won't show much with the breach in the cockpit shown in photos. They will only show the flight up until it was hit by the rocket.

 

They might. We'll at least get cockpit voice recordings, maybe more. It would show if the plane veered off course and if it was slowing down, as Russia has stated. Also, witnesses on the ground have said the plane came in largely intact (not sure about that), in which case much more may be revealed.

Too bad that Ukraine hasn't given up the control tower tapes.