What the Wall is really about

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  1. Voltamp

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    Well in mideval times with a tremendous army and siege engines, yes. Is that the retarded situation you were thinking of?
     
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    Where do you find a $10 30 foot ladder ?

    Rule of thumb, $10 per foot when it comes to ladders.
     
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    You don't know how to climb a ladder?
     
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    This is mexico
     
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    You really don't know how to use a ladder to climb over a wall?
     
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    Part of the Dream Act which passed under Obama and is still in effect, was a program in which a illegal who is eligible for amnesty under the act can have the waiting period for a green card waived if they are sponsored by a US employer.
     
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    It's slightly more complicated than that. I don't think you've thought this through.

    For example, is said Mexican just supposed to jump off the top of the wall into the US once he climbs said ladder to freedom? A 30 foot fall sounds painful.

    You need to think your bullshit talking points through.

    Hell, it's not even a talking point. It's a retarded point.
     
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    Stop talkin like some dopey Dimocrat.That a wall is immoral and
    unwise.Look around at most nice neighborhoods.You will see fences.
    The better the neighborhood,the more it's gated.
    Just try and get into Switzerland.Or most any country in Europe.
    Why should The Greatest Nation { Country } on God's Green Earth
    be totally open to anyone seeking entry { illegal or otherwise }.
    Watch the Movie - Crossing the Bridge - and you'll understand.
    The United States is NOT open to Outsiders.Or those who feel like
    squatting - Occupy Wall Street -.You'll need a valid Passport and Visa if
    not a Citizen.Even if you are a legal citizen you'll need a passport.
    The United States is no different than an exclusive Gated Community.
    You have to me a member to be allowed in.
    Not Having a Border wall is causing huge Illegals flooding in at
    will.THE Only reason the Dimocrats and Obama didn't care was because
    they play Identity Politics and viewed Illegals as future Democrats.,
     
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    You must be joking. This is hilarious. Its called a rope tied to something on the mexican side and brought up the ladder. This is freaking hilarious.
     
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    And Trump is going to put a yuuge tariff on Werner ladders util they return to the USA.

     
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    Well then that makes all the difference. LOL
     
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    Hahaha tied to what exactly? And what part of the wall are you trying to breach? The part where guards will easily see you or the desert part where you will die of thirst while you lug your 80 pound ladder?

    Simply ridiculous.
     
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    You really have to be kidding. Frankly the coyotes could stand on the ladder and you tie it to that. If border patrol is right there.....why do we need to wall. It would take less than a few minutes to get over it.
     
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    I'd be interested to know more about this if you have a reference. However this would presumably only cover DACA recipients who were brought here as children. I'm sure that only covers a small amount of people who are here working illegally.

    I did do a brief scan of the provision and there seem to be quite a few hoops to jump through before that status is granted. You'd also need an employer who is willing to go the extra mile for a particular worker (including filing and legal costs). I doubt that, except in rare cases, there would be many willing to do that.

    I don't know why we can't have a simple non-resident work permit program. Maybe that's what the guest worker program is set up to address?
     
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    Nearly half of those here without papers came here LEGALLY.

    So, a ladder isn't even required.
     
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    I don't really see that as being an improvement.

    It still leaves us with an underclass of cheap powerless labor and doesn't address issues of abuse by employers, fair competition/compensation, health care, etc., etc.

    It would be about the same as finding all those here without papers, but with a job and then issuing them a permit that their employer can tear up at will.
     
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    Few minutes huh? I don't think you realize how tall a 30 foot wall is. And if you actually read about it, there are many anti-climbing measures as well as anti-tunneling measures but regardless of all of that, the idea that wall shouldn't be built because it's "possible" to get around it is ridiculous.
     
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    Link?
     
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    It's like saying you shouldn't build a fence for your dog because it's still possible for him to get out. Complete retardation.
     
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    It is ridiculously easy to get around it. It is laughable
     
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    If he gets out....what good was the fence? LOL
     
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    You haven't provided a feasible scenario to support that claim. Just bull crap about ladders and ropes.
     
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    If you have no fence, there's nothing to stop him, LOL
     
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    So you would put a fence that wouldn't work anyway.

    Are you claiming no illegal immigrants get busted now?
     

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