NRA chief calls gun ownership a 'fundamental human right,' rejects calls for new restrictions

So what….?

It was an AMENDMENT…! Something that has been added to or changed can be amended again…! Why would anyone think that the worldview of the 1790s MUST persist nearly a quarter of a millennium later…??

As your culture has become more enlightened, you’ve amended your constitution many times….to abolish slavery, to establish voting rights regardless of race or sex, 30 others….

It’s well over time to correct it again…

 

What a fool. There are no human rights, fundamental or otherwise, other than what your culture grants, and we are fed up with his callous disregard for the lives of our kids and the arrogant selfishness of gun nuts.
Slavers thought it was their fundamental human right to own other people, until they lost it when society got fed up with their arrogant disregard for others.
The demographics are changing and his day is coming.

 

Well said. This is worth repeating.

I’d also like to point out the hypocrisy of right wingers foaming at the mouth over abortion while excusing the mass murder of children.
It’s obvious that they care more about their guns than their children.

https://news.yahoo.com/guns-now-leading-cause-death-190042943.html

 

It is NOT a fundamental human right to carry à gun.
Nowhere in the source of fundamental rights, the UN is this stated.
It may be a right in the US but it is a lie to make your conscious decision about guns to sound like some immutable sacred right In the same frame of référence as speech or voting.
It is this kind of rhetoric that sells guns and corrupts politicians.
It is a lie.

 

Well done to recognise that fundamental hypocrisy.

 

Your reply has nothing to do with the right wing contradiction about their deep concern for the préservation of life.

 

Your position is that natural rights come from god.
And gun ownership is a natural right.
So what kind of god confers à universal right to kill each other?
And I thought suicide was à sin in gods eyes and Yet you also say owning the means to commit suicide is a god given right. And that god made théâtre and intimidation easier by condoning gun ownership.
Do you even start to see the doublethink here??
Human being have god given free will to shape theirvecistence as they Please. Thatcwas established as Christian Doctrine à couple of hundreds years ago in the Enlightenment.
You can't be seriously that à loving god rubber stamps the infinite use of firearms???

 

Gréât post.
Rights are created by mankind. They can be changed or erased at OUR will.
The NRA is trying to make gun ownership equal to other human rights, Yet all other developed countries don't recognise that "right".
Utterly rubbish.

 

~ I believe the U.S. Constitution grants firearm rights to both — a Militia if and when necessary , and each individual citizen at will .

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

And for those who disagree ...
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You dont "overthrow the constitution" by amending an amendment.
You are being dramatic for your own propose.

 

Taking guns away from EVERYONE , since the situation has become out of control, is the solution.

And no. It is not impossible.
Once every t'en years you have a census. Every home is visited and counted.
There is no reason why this cannot alsovactcas a gun amnesty and if in future, à crime involving à gun is committed, the punishment should be harsh indeed.
It will take à génération to clear out the slime that has collected but it can be done.

 

Does this include future arms designed to kill lots more people in à shortercamount of time?
Do you have a limit as to "gun by potential deaths" or are you OK with superguns, owning minitanks, armed drones ??

 

Only if those teachers WANTED to carry.

I believe a majority, over 50 percent, would feel way too afraid and uncomfortable to continue to teach at that school.

I also think this applies to parents, and a majority would move their kids to a new school or pull them entirely.

I admit, if you are trying to find a way to take down the public education system, it may be a good idea.

But I don't think the schools would risk their funding and allow it.

IF parents allow people with guns in schools, it going to have to be the literal best of the best and most trustworthy of people. And the fewest number of people needed to secure the school.

We may want to look at other ideas.

 

~ " A gun in every home. A tank on every street . "
You mean like that ..? I doubt that is what Americans want . However I believe that the majority of Americans do not want to become like Australia .

 

If there is no limit to "arms" and you are slowly conditioned to accept tanks, as you have been condition3d to accept semiautomatic guns, why not?
Eventually you will have well armed good guns firing at well armed bad guys in any of your streets.

2A is out of date. What they meant by arms is a fire and reload rifle . I have no doubt they would be horrified by what you call "arms".

 

Well I wouldnt want my child to be caught up in à contained shootout between two unprofessional shooters.

 

And if you ignored everything else that he said that might mean something. But you'd have to ignore everything else he said.

 

no. I am elated you are teaching !! my Daughter is a teacher and my Mother too. My mom started a bunch of group homes in Portland and she was also an intake counselor for the USM system

 

Guns are used to kill people yes. Does that mean god wants them to be used as such? There are after all animals that can be used for food that if we only had spears (no weapons that can be shot) could kill several humans before being taken down. Additionally god knows that thanks to Satan there will be evil in humans. So why wouldn't he want the non-evil ones to defend themselves? Not to mention none of the commandments talk about killing, murder yes, killing no.

Like you said, according to Christian doctrine god gave us free will. Which means we can go against what he wants.

Note; I'm not even Christian and yet even I can give an answer to you.

 

Your question is a stupid one and you know it. Basing it on the premise of resurrection? If you're going to pose such idiotic questions why should anyone take you seriously?

 

Nothing easier for most Americans, but for the amped up MAGAS at the event, you dont think the closing instructions mean more than the opening or endless filler? Why do you think court cases end with closing arguments? It's the last thing a jury hears before they deliberate..

I'll say it once again that I wouldnt charge T**** on anything said or done exclusively at the rally, but when taken as a whole, the pattern is clear and must be addressed.. like they are apparently doing in Georgia and New York..

 

So what do they mean?

 

This says that it is recognise that for the security of the free nation ( still usure when 2A was added to the constitution) there must be WELL REGULATED militia (working under direction as a group) in order to protect the state.
Therefore the population will br free to keep and bear arms .
It is situation specific.
It has à rationale.
It was to protect the new state from attack.

NONE of this applies anymore
The only thing that is left is the right to keep arms.
It doesn't say "bear and use arms for any other purpose than within àn organised militia and for a specific purpose.
The whole amendment has been rendered irrelevant by time and circumstance.
But instead it has been dumbed down to one idea, stripped of all its qualifiers and has become used by a political organisation as a money making device, and they dont care how many people die in the process of the endless extension of this complète reinterpretation of something that is no longer relevant. They just ignore the parts that explained when and why gun use is allowed.
They have found various pithy pathetic slogans to repel critics which are easy to remember and repeat without actually thinking of the logical results.
If ever the security of the US is threatened and bearing arms will make a différence, I can understand the justification for using guns.
However as time passes I think national security depends more on a well regulated armed forces, not militias. We have NATO to help with that.

If you actually read to this level, I know you wont change. You will swallow the unelected manipulator of power who feeds you liés to explained why there is nothing you can do.
Meanwhile I sincerely hope that all your loved ones make it to a good age and trauma free.
The chances of that are diminishing every year.

 

This is just gârble.

 

How long did it take for that background check? 15 minutes, including filling out the paper work. That background check is to be sure you're not a convicted felon and nothing more. It does nothing to ensure you're mentally stable and competent in handling firearms.