Impeach Biden over the Security Catastrophe He’s Caused at the Border

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    According to SCOTUS, he cannot do anything unless Congress has authorized it. But "controlling" the border is already happening with 30,000 CBP officers on the border, inspections of all vehicles entering the duly designated ports of entry, and so forth. It may not be efficiently controlled, but it is controlled nonetheless. The only avenues he can pursue is diplomatic endeavors, which is why he was at that Summit in Mexico last week.
     
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    Obama spent a lot of political capital with the ACA, hence why he lost Congress as you stated. That being said, from hindsight, they should have done immigration reform in two parts, the legal side first, and then the "illegal" side second. But instead, they tried to put it all into one. And then the AM Talk Radio got involved and made all sorts of statements from "Obama does not want Americans working" to "Obama would let terrorists in" and hence why the bill was doomed all because of AM talk radio and social media internet gossip through the Gossip gang.

    As for GOP, about 20% of the GOP rank and file are immigration restrictionists with little immigration especially from South America and Asia. Both have strong family values and are socially conservative. But they come from different cultures than their own and some may have different religions such as Shinto, Buddhist, or Muslim than their own. Hence why the GOP has not changed its stance. They are dead set on illegal immigration and stopping it at all costs. That works for them because it is easier to create a boogyman approach for someone who is desperately fleeing a country than it is for someone who is different but following the rules. They don't want to look that ridiculous, but they don't want to change either because they are afraid that more immigrants mean less power for them. And that is all that matters to them.
     
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    Other options I am referring to is what i have previously discussed. They include trade agreements that would help more the host country than the home country, the joint law enforcement endeavors to curtail cartels and drug trade, foreign aid for those countries to deal with the gangs and police corruption in their own countries, and so forth. But the GOP, nor you, are interested in that because it cost money
     
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    We have immigration policy for three reasons: family reunification, employment for job skills that are highly desired and needed, and humanitarian efforts.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    False he does not report to the Supreme Court on the controlling the border or Congress. And the border is out of control at this time and Biden is doing nothing about it. They did not even discuss it at that summit in Mexico last week.
     
  6. Alwayssa

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    I never said he reported to the Supreme Court Blues. I said what the Supreme Court can and cannot allow a President to do. It is part of the separation of powers doctrine within the US Constitution. Geez. Get someone to explain my posts to you next time. Maybe with pictures so you can better understand it next time.
     
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    Yes separation of power which assigns the border to the President not the SCOTUS your petty remarks notwithstanding.
     
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    impeach all the Republican in congress that told the world how easy it was to come here, as they obviously listened and came

    were Republicans stupid, what did they expect them to do when they heard that?
     
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    Naturalization laws, aka immigration, and thus deportation and such, is a federal jurisdiction, not state jurisdiction, but it is not specifically assigned as a duty to the President under Article 2. Thus, states cannot create their own "deportation and immigration system" whether it is on the border or elsewhere because that is not allowed under Article 1, Section 8, clause 4.
     
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    Controlling the border is and why are you shifting to States when your statement was about the Supreme Court?
     
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    If borders are supposedly Racist, and Immoral, then Democrat Politicians are calling God a Racist and Immoral. Because Heaven has borders, called Gates.
    I wrote this myself.
     
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    The hysterics occasioned by so many Republican Trump intimates coming clean regarding Trump's sordid antics generate much vapid bluster about impeaching the President, but no substantive pretexts can be contrived.

    ... Far from devolving into chaos, the border has experienced an eerie quiet. In June, the average number of daily unauthorized crossings dropped from more than 6,000 a day over the prior twelve months to a mere 3,300. In fact, there were fewer unauthorized arrivals that month than at any point since February 2021, at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic and shortly after Biden took office. Although the numbers have ticked up slightly in July to around 4,300 arrivals a day, they have remained far below the prior year’s average.
    [https://www.foreignaffairs.com/mexico/border-crisis-wasnt-united-states-migration]
    The "Burisma bribery" concoction had also fizzled: [https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-burisma-fd1023/], even before the mob's "star witness" failed to go along with their fabrications:
    At this point, hype about impeachment is merely to entertain the disgruntled Trumpers, a waste of legislative time and money.

     
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    Yes how convenient that Biden put out the worthless app but if they are signed into it they are not counted as an "unauthirized entry". This isn't just about the borders it is about across this country now.

    Your diversion anout Archer noted. Take it to those threads.

     
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    Be resigned to the radical congressional Republicans' impotence in contriving credible pretexts to impeach the President to distract from Trump's legal reckonings, neither the reduced level of illegal immigration, nor then fake Burisma bribery confection - although there are Democrats hoping they'll try it anyway, and Republicans warning them not to.

    Please, House Republicans, Be Crazy Enough to Impeach Joe Biden
    If Kevin McCarthy does what his unhinged caucus wants him to do,
    he may as well hand over his speakership to the Democrats.


    McConnell warns House GOP on Biden impeachment: ‘Not good for the country’
     
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    The subtext of McTreason's comment being "not good for Repubs." Cuz.......you know.......when did Mitch start caring about the country?
     
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    Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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    Special prosecutor appointed by Garland today......................the evidence has become so overwhelming even he can no longer protect the Biden's including the sitting President.
     
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    You spend far to much time and put way too much credence in reading and listening to the unofficial pervasive Democrat media and the Democrat propaganda and "statistics."
    You might be correct but at least the justification exceeds Pelosi's two impeachments by light years.
     
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    What evidence? The whistle blower testimony has been refuted by Weiss. This is Garland bending over backwards to appease the whiny complaints from the Right despite Weiss's investigation finding nothing of consequence.
     
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    Yea and Weiss was saying two weeks ago there was no need for a special prosecutor.
     
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    I overheard an argument about the effectiveness of a wall and actually heard one person say: "Well look at China.....
    They've got a wall and no Mexicans....
     
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    I am unaware of a Special Prosecutor being appointed to investigate the President.

    I don't care about his relatives, neighbors, and friends.
     
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    If you pleasure yourself with imaginings of Trump being as pure as the driven snow, and need to dismiss all the Republicans who served in his regime providing sworn testimony and documented evidence against him, that is your privilege, of course.
    That is no shortage of Republicans in the know who assess the compelling evidence and acknowledge otherwise.

    E.g.,

    "This was an intensifying crescendo of conspiracy theories orchestrated by an outgoing president who
    seemed determined to either overturn the voters' decision or else torch our institutions on the way out."

    "There is no question, none, that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day...
    A mob was assaulting the Capitol in his name. These criminals were carrying his banners, hanging his flags
    and screaming their loyalty to him."


    "Having that belief was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements,
    conspiracy theories and reckless hyperbole which the defeated president kept shouting
    into the largest megaphone on planet earth."

    McConnell described the violence on January 6, saying that Americans beat and bloodied their own police,
    stormed the Senate floor and built a gallows and chanted about murdering the Vice President.

    "They did this because they'd been fed wild falsehoods by the most powerful man on earth,
    because he was angry he lost an election."


    SENATOR MITCH McCONNELL (R)
     
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    You are failing to parrot the talking points that have been issued :

     
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