Do you believe gay and trans people molest children at a higher rate than non gay or trans?

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Do you believe gay and trans people molest children at a higher rate than non gay or trans?

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  1. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Do you believe gay and trans people molest children at a higher rate than non gay or trans?


    Many people believe that gays and trans spend a lot of time grooming children to partake in sexual activities.

    Personally, I think those people are idiots, and that gay and trans people are generally LESS likely to molest children, or at the same levels as straight people.
     
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    No, but I believe they generate a lot more attention when they do.
     
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    I'd think they have less opportunity to do so. That may have something to do with things like Drag Queen Story hour. They want that to change.
     
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    Personally, because many of their sexual lusts swings both ways it enhances the opportunity for either sex being molested. Also, because they have stepped out of the norm with their desires, they might be prone to it. Why else do they want to dress out their perversion in front of "small children?"
     
  5. Turin

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    So, in your opnion. Just simply not dressing as your biological sex is a perversion?
     
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    I would say it is confusion.Do you believe a man wearing fishnet hose and a g-string with pasties in public is a perversion? I would say that is a sexual act in itself. I would say if a man dresses as a women discreetly, no one would know.
     
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    It depends on whether you assume all "gay" and "trans" people are a part of the sexual liberation movement. Many people have forgotten that the slang term "gay" originally came out of the free love / sexual libertine movement, regardless of orientation. It was only later that it was limited to people of same-sex attraction, but it still kept the anything-goes/outside-the-norms association for many.
     
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    Statistically, the rates are probably higher (by a factor of several times), but to put that into perspective, it is still not near as great as the statistical difference between men and women.

    So it is worth noting, and asking questions about, but it does not justify singling these individual people out, really any more than a normal man would be singled out from women (or a black man would be singled out from white men, to continue the comparison).

    Even when it comes to plain flat-out sexual perverts, less than 10% of them are rapists or molesters. Though that percentage might be very much higher than the normal population.

    One part of the reason the rates might be higher is due to something known as the scarcity effect. If you put 1000 normal men on an island with only lesbians, trapping them there for 10 years, chances are the rape rates would significantly increase.
     
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  9. Turin

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    Okay. But that would be also true of ANY woman. No matter if they are trans or not.

    This is not a trans issue.

    But what about someonme who just cross dresses normally say, in a modest dress?

    confusion is not a good enough reason to deny someone their rights and happiness imo.
     
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    I would agree. How are their rights being denied? The person you described is not showcasing his/her confusion and demanding special attention. That is not the issue.
    A question for you.....what about the parents of a young girl that have spent hours upon hours training her to swim. The little girl has hopes and dreams to be a champion and earn scholarships only to have those dreams dashed by a gender confused man who identifies as a women, 6'5" in in height and was only a mediocre swimmer against other males. Doesn't that deny women's rights?
     
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    The sports thing is tricky. I would agree on that. I dont know what the perfect answer here is.

    And many people want to deny trans rights. The number of anti lgbtq bills being passed are at an all time high. And not just against children. Laws are being passed to prevent adults from conversion as well. That is a loss of rights.
     
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    What are trans rights? What rights do you think they should have that normal people do not already have?

    Are we talking about the right not to be treated separately by gender, and be treated as the gender they want to identify as? That's what this seems mostly about?

    I think there are many jobs, such as bikini waxer, where it may be difficult to employ a trans person because it may make many of the female clients very uncomfortable.
     
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    Many new laws target adult individuals. Some require 18 months of intense psychotherapy. Others restrcit any medicare/medicade funds to ANY organization that offers gender affirming care to adults.

    Etc Etc.


    But in general you are right. They deserve the right to be treated as the gender they identify as.
     
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    Government trying to protect individuals from themselves. Let's think about this. This isn't the only area where government does that.

    If the individual is married, that could definitely be a compounding factor. I definitely think the spouse should have the right to require them to get therapy and having a waiting period, in that case.
     
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    While I cannot argue in favor or give my approval to that out of principle, it's also worth considering that this policy has very limited effectiveness, to any mature adults who are serious about wanting to get those treatments. Most "gender affirming care" is provided by a specialty private clinic and is paid for out-of-pocket.

    I think that restriction of government funds was mostly targeted at Planned Parenthood, mainly a provider of abortions (non-essential pregnancy termination, another controversial issue).
     
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    There are of course all sorts of problems and complications with that idea, as you well know.

    Maybe there should be some sort of more rigorous government screening and approval process to decide who gets that privilege?
    I think it's going to be very problematic if someone who obviously appears to be a man tries to pass themself off as a woman.
     
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    The ratio is 11 heterosexual paedophiles to 1 homosexual paedophile

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1556756/
     
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    I think thats pretty stupid.

    why not let men force women to give birth? Oh wait. We already do that to.....
     
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    THere ARE problems, but there shouldnt be.

    Its just the puritan streak that founded this country and never left that makes this a big deal. and the puritans TOTALLY SUCKED.
     
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    What you think "should be", and reality, are two different things.
     
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    https://www.dailywire.com/news/were...-historic-gay-mens-choir-sings-in-viral-video

    ‘We’re Coming For Your Children’: San Francisco Gay Men’s Choir Sings In Viral Video
    ‘You think that we’ll corrupt your kids. Funny, just this once, you’re correct.’
     
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    Im not sure that the song means what you think it means, but yes, I can see how that would concern people.

    That being said. Do you think this one group is the spokesperson for the entire community?
     
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    The State of California is all in!

    https://californiaglobe.com/legisla...ill-to-protect-sex-offenders-who-lure-minors/
    SB 145 would add a section to the state’s penal code (Section 290.55) stipulating that as long as the offender is “not more than 10 years older than the minor,” they are not automatically mandated to register as a sex offender. There is no age limit or range specified, except for existing law which already excludes lewd acts with children under 14.

    SB 145 appears to allow adults to victimize minors by luring them with the intent to have sex, and then shields the predator from being automatically registered as a sex offender, as in the case of a 25 year old luring a 15 year old for sex, or a 22 year old luring a 12 year old.
     
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    My guess is No. Why? Because majority of kids who are victims of their parents, or other family members, while gay folks typically don't have kids, an therefore are not in position so do so. So, majority of molestations are done by straight people. Besides I have a feeling many gays don't even care for kids.
     
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    I believe the answer to be fair would be easy.... Two options: you compete of the gender of your birth OR develop a new transgender class in sports. You just don't get to dominate a class due to your confusion.
    Question to ask: Why haven't we heard of females transitioning into males participating in male sports?
     
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