Are you safe? Where are you? Are you alone? Guys I'm so f****g scared...

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Off topic NOTED!
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    useful fools are most likely to join such a march.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    they never want to disarm the felons because crime control is not the motivation
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    The anti gun March is funded by the usual cabal of hollywood elitist lefties including Oprah Winfrey.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    LOL!

    Ironic coming from a supporter of the GOP/NRA gun cabal.
     
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    How pathetic of an attempt to blame an individuals insanity on the right. The constitution protects gun rights so what would you rather do to stop this that isn’t unconstitutional?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    88% of We the People want UNIVERSAL Background Checks for ALL gun transactions.

    That is 100% Constitutional.
     
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    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    And how would that prevent this from happening?
     
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    It is?

    I was not aware of that.

    Here is a copy of our constitution-

    https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/full-text

    I've read it and I can't seem to locate the part you mention about background checks for people purchasing firearms are "100% constitutional"

    Can you point it out for us? Thanks.
     
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    Let's eliminate gun free zones. Criminals don't want armed victims.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

    The SCrOTUS is the FINAL decider of the MEANING of the 2nd Amendment.

    We the People have the RIGHT to REGULATE all of the RIGHTS upheld by the Constitution.
     
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    @Derideo_Te

    Do you know the M1A selective fire rifles are "in common use at the time" , meaning at this current time, meaning somebody is likely getting shot at with one probably in Ukraine, at this very moment?

    Do you know that semiautomatic rifles are in no way "unusal or dangerous"? Hell there is no soldier in any Military of the world today that issues semiautomatic rifles, with the possible exception of Yugoslavia and maybe a few other backwards third world countries that depend of the SKS ( a very scary looking implement indeed!)

    The semiautomatic rifle became obsolete on the battlefield pretty much that day WWII ended and was phased out of general issue by the US military by the end of the Vietnam "Police Action". And the gun grabbers sill want to ban cold Cold War relics.

    So automatic and selective fire firearms are indeed- In common use.



    Furthermore, you still have not clued us in as to the portion of the constitution that you say says background checks are "100% constitutional. What Article and section is that in? Thanks.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The COMMERCE Clause provides Congress the AUTHORITY to REGULATE all gun transactions.

    According to the inanity above ALL weapons of WAR are in "common use" therefore you should be allowed to own a HIMARS?

    LOL!
     
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    Oh, the commerce clause?

    Please quote the section or sections of the commerce clause that you believe to give congress the authority to "REGULATE all gun transactions". Thanks.

    Becuase I can quote the powers of congress and the limits of certain congressional legislation found in our constitution. Permission for congress to regulate firearms transactions is not to be found in the constitution.

    I'm am sure you are aware of the supremacy clause and the nature of The Bill of Rights. Maybe you aren't. If not then you better study up too to prepare for discussion.,
     
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    No, not "All weapons of war" I clearly stated that selective fire M1As are in common use around the world. Besides, the second amendment does not grant rights. The second amendment is an attempt to codify the Natural God -given Right to defend one's life or the lives of others dependent on circumstance.

    I claim my natural right to defense and I reserve the right to own a Death Star with freaking lasers and a tractor beam. Do you know why?

    Because someday I might need a Death Star with lasers and a tractor beam to use as a tool of defense. Who the heck are you to say who and who cannot own death star? You are not the boss of everything.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    your attacks on the NRA appear not to come from an understanding of gun issues but rather because you think the NRA voters oppose your alphabet agenda advocacy. How many NRA members have say shot up a school in the last 2 years? We recently had a case where some trans shot up school
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    NOTHING in your screed above NEGATES the Constitutional Authority of Congress to REGULATE all transfers of gun possession under the Commerce Clause.
     
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    Well if they got constitutional authority by the very definition of the term "constitutional", then it is written in ink someplace in The Constitution of the United States.

    Anybody can just say the constitution says something. if you wanted to be taken seriously you would quote the commerce clause and state your case.

    Would you like to state your case, or do you fear scrutiny and discussion?
     
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    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dic...lating to, inherent in,,of a state or society

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Const...id to be,forth in the applicable constitution.

    Thanks for CONFIRMING that you were AWOL for Civics 101.

    All legislation PASSED by Congress and Signed by the POTUS is DEEMED to be Constitutional unless they are successfully CHALLENGED in the courts.

    So it does NOT have to be "written in ink someplace in The Constitution".

    That is a puerile argument that would be LAUGHED at if anyone tried using it in a court of law.
     
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    While I don't have a dog in this fight, it seems to me that he is asking you to make the case for why the Commerce Clause applies, and that you keep refusing to do so.

    Typically, one would expect that someone with a strong argument would happily make their case, and one with a weak argument would tend to focus on trivialities rather than addressing the actual topic.
     
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    It’s likely they are aware the commerce clause only applies to interstate commerce. They can’t back the claim it applies to all transfers because that claim is false.
     
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    Nope upholding paranoia and the right of crazies to commit mass murder unimpeded and the right of thugs to murder rape and rob without resistance.
     
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    Look man. Are you going to quote the commerce clause and explain the reasoning behind it allowing congress to violate the rights to privacy, property, and self defense to "regulate" the second amendment or not?

    Because if you ain't then dont expect anyone other than you to believe that you actually know what you are talking about.
     
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    When I was in second grade in the early 60's, we had nuclear war drills in our classroom [duck and cover]. Yet your Democrat buddies seem to care very little about starting WWIII.

    Could be worse...
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Do you need a DICTIONARY to explain the meaning of the term COMMERCE?

    Does Congress have the authority to REGULATE transactions for explosives like tnt?

    Yes or no?

    Onus is on YOU to explain your LUDICROUS allegation that the REGULATION of commercial transactions "violate the rights to privacy, property, and self defense"? Your name and address are NOT an "invasion" of your "privacy". No one is DENYING your right to OWN a gun so your other two allegations have ZERO credibility in the REAL world.

    However it is NOT my job to provide you with an education on what everyone who went to Public School LEARNED about in Civics 101.

    Sad!
     

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