Do you understand why people vote for Donald Trump?

Never forget: Trump may be the only thing standing between the US and its liberty and an outright Fascist who may have gotten us into WW3 by choice, squandered our money, lied to us about material things, seems to have much higher priorities than the well being of our own country and its people. He campaigned on the promise that he would not shut down the country but the virus yet maintained the emergency for nearly 3 years after the clot shot had been made available. A monster that, when not sniffing children and allegedly showering with his 12 year old daughter, got people in the private sector fired if they wouldn't take the clot shot that he knew or should have known they did not need (the young with no comorbidities, people that already had natural immunity). An anti-social loon that pushes sexual deviancy on our children while telling us we don't really need no stinkin free speech and gun rights. He could just nuke us all. A monster under whom you are poorer while he tells you your wages are up. Not relative to inflation they are not. A senile champion of the deep state whose media and judicial system has been so perverted that Donald Trump was found liable of being a multi billionaire that bangs super models that become uncontrollably lustful that he brutally raped a 50 something year old creative writer in public, as people milled about them, but she didn't make a peep to alert help and that he would have had to have know that for some reason, while he brutally raped her, she would not make a peep. That case should have been thrown out by the judge for lack of credibility.
But I understand Trump lied when he said it didn't rain at the inauguration. Also he downplayed Covid fears while people were freaking out and hoarding toilet paper. Almost as bad as saying, "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.



For your own lives and liberty, vote Trump and with good fortune, this man will never again be in a position to destroy your life for simply investigating the narrative before blindly following it.

Well, at least N@zi protesters support Biden.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/lc7csFDx4UQ/

 

Our energy independence has not changed.
We still are exporting our oil products.
Sure gas was under $2.00, a bit disingenuous, unless you want the world back in covid type lockdowns.
We are not at war with Russia, China, or NK.
I never felt safe under trump.
Any leader that gets laughed at on the world stage by other world leaders has no respect around the world. The USA lost world standing
Any leader that gets impeached 2x is not one to be trusted.
Any leader that loses as an incumbent is because they did a terrible job.
Any leader that causes his/her party to lose control of power in 4 yrs, did a terrible job.

 

I agree the swamp and the deep state are synonymous and only the most intellectually dull and/or bitterly partisan think it doesn't exist. We Patriots need to be intellectually honest and not assign every mistake or bad act of government to the deep state/swamp--some of them are not that at all but just the fallibility of people and government--but the deep state/swamp is real, active, destructive, and massive.

 

No doubt Trump will lose

No doubt Trump will seeth with anger. I don't really think it's a moot point though, because I don't believe he will be the Republican candidate. Saying that, I will not under any circumstances support Biden. He has run this country into the ground with his silly policies. I surely don't need any party to tell me that I don't need a toaster, a ceiling fan, or other appliances. I'm tired of paying close to $4.00 for gallon of gas. I'd really like to be able to buy a nice steak dinner for me and my wife. I'd really like to go to the pharmacy and be able to pick up a prescription that costs so much I have to chose between medicine and food. I'd like to look at my retirement and see the amount that was in when Trump left office. I'd like to be able to afford to buy my grandkids Christmas presents like I use too.

According to the latest poll it say's that 29% of the people are better off under Biden. Which only tells me one thing, inflation never hurts the rich or those who have money. They go around and tell everyone that everything is OK. Meanwhile the rest of us look at each other and wonder are they kidding or our they brain dead or worse yet indifferent to the rest of us. I grew up poor in the 40's and I remember the way things gotten under Carter and I know I will be a survivor. I'm not so sure about some of the younger ones who have never had to go through tough times. If Biden is reelected get your money out of the banks, in fact they should do that now.

 

The fact that you posted this clip of a lying con man means you are deeply ignorant of easily available facts or divorced from reality and why you follow the other con man.

 

Cuz ad hominem attacks are a sign of well thought out reason

 

I take your point, Foxy, we just disagree about the numbers. There is an expression about not assigning malevolence to what is probably just stupidity and incompetence.

I want to explore this concept of the deep state/swamp (DSS) because understanding the problem is key to determining a solution. Are the DSS comprised of poor people or wealthy people? Given the power of the DSS they must be wealthy, right? So if we are going to identify the DSS we can exclude poor people. Are the DSS motivated by sincerely held beliefs or are they easygoing? In order to have an agenda the DSS would need to motivated and those sincere beliefs would provide motivation.

Are we both still on the same page here?

 

Then you should be able to easily point out my error. I'll wait.

 

It is pretty obvious.

 

When asked for evidence to back up their assertions...............crickets.

 

Can one understand??........Of course one can: Trump has created anigmage of himself that seems t ofit what many Americans ( his cult inparticular) believe is the image of America

Aggressive, intolerant, bullying, tactless, undiplomatic, overly forceful, self centered ,narcissistic , attitude of superiority,, power hungry { addicted} , for power's sake itself. As someone observed: He is AMERICA. His followers find this image acceptable as in many ways it represents them too.

BUT... in reality , he is cruel, (not tough in a constructive way), sadistic, biased, vengeful , angry, intolerant, lacks objectivity, and is motivated by self interest only.

 

Lower gas prices
Lower inflation
More secure borders
Less crime
No European wars
Not arming the Taliban
Not abandoning Americans and allies to the Taliban
Lower taxes
Not hiring sexually confused executives who steal women's clothing from airport luggage areas
Secure US airspace
Energy independence

 

OK.......but that was some time ago. Things have changed , affected by the pandemic, other societal issues, and Russian insanity. Trump would not have prevented the war, , as Putin was planning long term.
The border wall (??) was not finished, and should not have been as this is a democracy that does not live behind walls.
The important question would be : how are the R's helping Biden to achieve some important goals, that would benefit everyone?? Why do they play the obstructionist.??......as if waiting for the second coming for their "hero??

 

The pandemic is history. Gas prices remain at record levels.

US gas prices soar to their highest seasonal level in a decade even as the summer driving season comes to a close (US Gas Prices Hit Highest Seasonal Level in Decade, Stoking Inflation Fears (businessinsider.com)

Putin did not attack until Biden clearly demonstrated his cowardice in Afghanistan. Putin did NOT attack when Trump was in office. These are FACTS.

Open borders are killing us. Ask the families of the fentanyl dead. Ask the governor of Texas. Heck, ask the Mayor of New York City.

Russi certainly is achieving important goals... FOR RUSSIA!

 

I have noted in the past (maybe too many times) that conservatives have difficulty with ambiguity, things need to be either black or white, good or bad. I think symptoms worsen the further right they go and the larger font they use. The Trump administration was great and Biden's is a dumpster fire.

The world has seen rising gas prices. The EU currently pays $4.70 per gallon of gas. The world has been hit with inflation. The UK had 10% inflation. The US exists in the world.

The Biden administration went ahead with Trump's faulty negotiated withdrawal plan. A bad move in hindsight. Russia likewise suddenly removed its troops in '89 from Afghanistan. The government fell and the mujahidin took over, civil war ensued. Was Russia seen as weak or smart to cut loses and get out of the hell hole? It's a matter of opinion.

The borders are not open.

Russia is a pariah and Putin is a criminal. Goals met.

 

I am a little younger than you. I am financially secure, but I know what inflation is doing to the rest of the country. I also know that life is a lot better for everyone if those who work and play by the rules are better off. Currently they are not. “Sexually diverse people” and illegal immigrants are the groups that get the special perks from this administration.

We also don’t need the government telling us what cars to drive and what home appliances to use. That is especially true if the government is picking favorites and giving subsidies and sweetheart deals to companies who pony up support and campaign cash for certain politicians.

In the end Biden’s economic policies will destroy the economy. His foreign policies will strengthen our enemies. And for me there is the lingering doubt. Is he doing this because he’s stupid or misguided, or has he been bought off?

 

So you position is the whole world stinks and Biden is only a victim. BS.

Biden has done everything he could to raise energy prices from his very first hours in office. He shut down the pipeline and he has broken the government’s contracts on energy leases. Higher energy prices cascade though every aspect of the economy. Energy prices are the great inflator. Oh, and BTW, Europe has paid far more for gasoline than Americans have for many years. It’s nothing new. Only OUR gasoline prices are higher.m

The borders are not open?

That is total BS. Go peddle that lie to you fellow progressive Democrats. Everyone with a brain knows that is a complete falsehood.

 

Nope, my position is the world has gone through a rough patch economiclly and we are part of the world and I don't think it will improve because of climate change.

Europe has had rising fuel prices and increased inflation just like us and many more so. Germany and France still have inflation rates over 6%. Maybe you should learn something about world economics.

I was unaware the DHS and CBP have been disbanded or maybe you should look up the definition of an open border. This is a good example of a right winger's difficulty with ambiguity.

 

Maybe you don't know very much yourself.

 

Indeed, but a little more than you.

 

You are dead wrong when you say the border is closed. Seven million illegals have crossed the border. We have no idea how many of them are criminals and terrorists, but enough have gotten though so far to threaten our country. The latest one was a double murderer illegal from Brazil. Biden doesn’t care how many criminals enter the country. That is not his concern. He just wants more bodies that will vote Democrat.

As for qualifications to analyze economic issues, do you have a degree in economics, or do you just have “feelings?” I had 27 credit hours in undergraduate school and six more in graduate school.

 

Did I say the border was closed? There you go again, difficulty with ambiguity. The border is leaky as it has always been. Why? Because illegals always got jobs, that's what brought them here, and that is how business likes it. Low paid workers without rights. What could be better. There is E Verify, to insure the worker is legal, but in most states, like mine, it is "optional", so it isn't used. This has created a well established coyote business model to smuggle peope in and they don't care who they are smuggling in if they have the money. Saying Biden doesn't care is absurd and illegals don't vote. Sure, a lot more can be done but Trump's administration was a disaster and there are still roughly a thousand children not reunited with their families.

The facts I gave you were not "feelings" and it sounds like you need to go back to school.

 

Keep on tossing out the insults. It’s all you can do.

And Biden doesn’t just not care. He hates you if you are White and male and don’t support him.

 

Excellent counterargument. You believe Biden hates you, so he is the enemy. Now that is some clear thinking.

 

Joe Biden disrespects the middle class. That’s a fact.