Do you understand why people vote for Donald Trump?

I take your point and I agree that intelligence appears to "self regulate" in that those who struggle to come to terms with a difficult world are going to look for something that helps them cope with it whereas those that understand why the world is difficult have other coping skills instead.

And then there are exceptions. When a culture values education the religious element conforms for the greater good. Not just Israel but modern America post WW2 were periods of strong religion because of outside threats and emphasis on STEM as a means to protect the nations.

But just to throw in a curveball we have China which has gone through a great many dynasties and upheavals but somehow managed to make a "religion" out of education. Only the best rose to become the functionaries of a government that managed a vast area and a large population.

Not endorsing any of the above, just pointing out how things transpired and perhaps we can learn a thing or two.

 

LOL. Straw-manning pretending to not know the difference between a sexual rape and violating our border w/o consent, ignoring my original statement (who cares about expulsions: how many got in?), making other absurd statements (No perceived border policy differences between Trump and Biden?!?!?!) . No wonder the poster ran away! Ha ha!

Well written and agreed.

 

.....and yet the smugglers

....and yet the smugglers and illegals work their way to the open sections in the wall and walk right through.

 

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They always will.
Walls can be gone over, under, around, and smuggled through.
We have 4 borders.
2 with oceans and 1 very long northern border. All of that would need to be walled off.

And they could still go over, under, and smuggled through.

 

Now New York may swing to Trump?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WErRzxkl6Vk/

 

Nice try, but NOT going to happen because NY'ers aren't stupid. The Traitor-in-Chief LOST his home state TWICE. The third time won't be a Charm but it might well be BRACELETS instead.

And yes, I am so TIRED of his WHINING. While I might not outlive him I still want to join the line of NY'ers who want to urinate on his grave.

 

Such a compassionate leftist position. So, tell me please, what did Trump do to you or your family that makes you despise him so much?

 

Instead of hiring 75,000 IRS agents we need to hire 75,000 border agents.

 

I have known about the CRIMES of your Traitor-in-Chief for several decades now but was never in a position to blow the whistle on him, which I would have done had the opportunity arisen.

I watched as he BANKRUPTED hard-working Americans trying to make an honest living. I saw his endless SCAMS stealing money from those that could least afford it. Your Inmate P01305809 has FINALLY gone too far and is being brought to JUSTICE.

Better late than never.

And yes, he is a DESPICABLE POS and if he wasn't born with a $400 million butt plug he would be just another loudmouthed bum in a seedy Brooklyn bar.

I am far from alone when it comes to DESPISING your Traitor-in-Chief.

 

He didn't get the US involved in a WW3 of choice though. So, there's that.
We saw wages rising relative to inflation for the first time since about 1970. Now under Beijing Biden, relative to inflation, our wages are down again. That appears to be a feature of Uniparty policies, not a bug.
Trump, for all of his faults, was telling us we would be winning so much we'd get tired of it.
Biden et. al. appear to be telling us to shut up, obey, get in the pods and eat the bugs, when isn't flat out lying, telling us he isn't going to shut down the country, he's going to shut down the virus... and then, once in power, kept the "emergency" going for years after we already had the clot shot and this garbage should have been shut down.

 

As an Independent I feel no obligation to defend Biden or the Dems. I uphold your right to your opinions and I respect that you are willing to engage in a meaningful exchange of ideas.

My own position is whose policies are beneficial to We the People and whose policies cause harm.

At the present time the GOP's policies are ALL directed at HARMING We the People, they have NOTHING to offer that is POSITIVE.

The Dem policies are FAR from what I would prefer to see in place but they have to deal with the crazies in the FreeDumb Cawcuss which tends to make things difficult.

Our infrastructure is on the verge of collapse as evidenced by the I95 bridge collapse in PA recently. We need to INVEST in OURSELVES, put the needs of We the People first and foremost if we are going to survive and thrive. But NONE of that will happen while the Xtofascists OBSTRUCT all means to ENABLE We the People to move forward.

 

I never said he wasn't a despicable person and an unlovable oaf. I just wondered what policies that Trump did as President that has many as yourself despise him. I did vote for him against Hillary because I considered her to be a corrupt politician. I also voted for him, holding my nose, over Biden because I considered Biden a racist with his chumminess of those who were former KKK and segregationist's. My choice this year is Nikki Haley even though she is a long shot. I do belief Joe Biden has committed high crimes and misdemeanors by selling influence with his son to other countries. I may be proven wrong and hope I am. The country is in need of strong leadership and soul searching.

 

Haley would be just another GOP/Xtofascist bobblehead puppet IMO. Chris Christie is the only candidate the GOP has with the BRAINS and Political Insight to be POTUS but since he was my governor for two terms I also know that he is a sleazy scumbug who used the state trooper helicopter to attend his kid's baseball games and took a Summer vacation on the CLOSED NJ beaches.

There is currently NO ONE on the right that meets my expectations.

The allegations against Joe Biden have consistently FAILED to meet expectations. NOTHING that has been pushed by the GOP has withstood even minimal scrutiny. Personally I don't give a crap about what his son has done because he has to answer for his actions under the Law of the Land. So UNLESS there is CREDIBLE evidence that STANDS up to scrutiny Joe gets the benefit of the presumption of innocence.

And yes, so does the Traitor-in-Chief but the EVIDENCE is rock solid so just a matter of time before he is doing time in a sweaty penitentiary somewhere.

 

Pro Lifers don't feel like they've been obstructed by Trump. Those who want growing, rather than declining, even when NOT relative to inflation, wages don't feel obstructed by Trump and more. We can agree that we disagree on what constitutes advancing the people's interests or not. Playing a game of chicken with a nuclear super power in a WW3 of choice doesn't seem like it to me.

 

Do you recall when the Traitor-in-Chief was threatening to nuke Iran?

https://www.the-independent.com/new...tics/mark-milley-trump-war-iran-b1885608.html

Was that in the interests of We the People or just in the PERSONAL interests of the Traitor-in-Chief?

As far as Putin's ILLEGAL invasion of Ukraine we are dealing with a DERANGED power-mad sociopath who can see the Grim Reaper beckoning. His THREATS of using nuclear obliteration MIRROR those of the Traitor-in-Chief above. A superpower THREATENING a smaller nation with nuclear "obliteration" for ILLEGITIMATE reasons.

So when you brought that issue up it is NOT Biden who is "playing chicken".

Putin, like the Traitor-in-Chief, is at the point where his power is about to leave his grasp so THREATS of this nature must be viewed in the context they are being made.

Not even China will back Putin starting WW3 and I have no doubt that they have told him that to his face.

Threats from dying dictators MUST be taken SERIOUSLY but I am sure that Gen Miley is in direct communication with his counterpart in Russia just as he was with Iran.

If the Traitor-in-Chief had tried to issue a launch command there would have been an immediate stand down order from the Pentagon with Pence and Congress invoking the 25th Amendment. In Russia it might just be an open window somewhere high up in the Kremlin instead.

 

Why would you quote Mark Milley about anything? He is a swamp creature that lied to Trump and can't wait to jump on every false flag he and his plant. He and his are furious at Trump for NOT starting any new wars.
Isn't Trump in trouble for showing a journalist that it was Milley et. al. lying and trying to instigate war in Iran? Lying about troop numbers in Syria while planting false flags about poison gas attacks and more?
Were Trump in charge, the Ukraine issue would have been over before we even knew it was an issue and we would be getting along great with Putin. All done, no $200 billion wasted and squandered on graft, corruption, kick backs, Felony tax evasion and more. No more ethnic Russians being murdered on the edge of Ukraine. No blown up pipeline making the world a dirtier, poorer place, no 1/2 million dead Ukrainians. Peace and prosperity. That is something to work for.

 

You mean trump didn't hire 75,000 border agents?

 

He really had no policies. He accomplished little in terms of policy.

But he surrounds himself with criminals and scum. Which is why he could not drain any swamp. He was lower than the swamp.
Can't be a functional president if all your associates are scum or if one is so incompetent he gets laughed at on the world stage by other world leaders.

...
CNN —

There’s an old saying that goes something like this: You can judge a man by the company he keeps. Which spells trouble for Donald Trump.

At least 11 people who played a role in Trump’s presidential campaigns or his administration have been charged with crimes, with Tom Barrack, who chaired Trump’s inaugural committee and has been a longtime friend, accused of illegal foreign lobbying on behalf of the United Arab Emirates on Tuesday.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/21/politics/tom-barrack-trump-arrested/index.html

 

Seriously?

Are you NOT aware that the Pentagon produces war plans for EVERY contingency? That does NOT mean that the Pentagon is going to ACT on any of those plans...it just means that those plans EXIST.

Your Traitor-in-Chief WANTED to wage WAR against Iran for NO good reason!

The Pentagon would have provided those plans AND estimates of the COSTS, CASUALTIES and probably OUTCOMES from a MILITARY point of view.

Any SANE occupant of the Oval office would have taken that under CONSIDERATION before even MENTIONING the idea in public.

Your Inmate P01135809 does NOT fall into the above category.

He STOLE that Top Secret document FROM the Oval office. It was a TREASONOUS betrayal of our nation to SHOW that document to ANYONE who did NOT have the authorized Security Clearance.

That document does NOT show that Gen Miley had ANY intentions of invading Iran. Miley does NOT have that authority to do so.

ONLY your Traitor-in-Chief had that authority.

It is DISINGENUOUS to BLAME the Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for the INSANE intentions of Inmate P01355809.

Are you UNAWARE that your Traitor-in-Chief is OWNED by Putin?

The MAGAchurian candidate was Putin's wet dream becoming a reality.

Of course Inmate P01355809 would have ROLLED OVER and wagged his fat ass when Putin told him to stay out of Ukraine.

So you are a Russian supporter?

I suppose that was to be expected given your support for the Traitor-in-Chief.

 

I vote for a President that makes life better for me and my family. The questions that must be asked:
- Who will keep inflation down best?
- Who will keep gas prices down?
- Who will keep us out of war in Europe?
- Who will keep down government spending?
- Who will secure our borders most effectively?
- Who will keep our military strongest?
- Who will keep fentanyl deaths down?
- Who will support our Constitutional rights best? (speech, gun ownership, etc.)
- Who will not arm terrorists like the Taliban?
- Who will keep US airspace secure?
- Who will ensure that individuals pay their own loans/bills and I am not burdened with them?
- Who will keep violent crime under control?
- Who will keep taxes down?

 

I' m as old as Joe Biden and I can tell that the way he walks and the way he bumbles his sentences his health is deteriorating. Those falls are becoming more frequent. I go through some of the same stuff and i laugh it off with others as having a Biden moment. If Joe knew me he would more than likely say he was having a Oh! Yeah moment. Trump is only three years younger, but he does have lots of energy. I think Joe, Trump, Mitch, Diane and any Politician over 75 should really consider stepping down and allow some new blood. That whole generation from Hillary, Soros, the Hunts, and other old big money just seem like they can't let go of power.

I'm pretty sure you think I'm stanch MAGA type but I voted for Clinton twice and I voted for Obama once. I'm an old Harry Browne Libertarian but I know that this country is a two-party system, and we are left with choices that are unpleasant at times. Unlike you I do not wish to see Trump go to jail or Biden go to jail. The only Democrats I ever really liked were Joe Liberman, Joe Manchin, Chris Coons and Patrick Moynihan.

 

Sorry, but if you are still pushing the Hillary/MSM proven BS, I can't take anything else you write seriously.

 

I thought his border policy was wonderful. I liked the idea that we were on our way to total energy independence and were an exporter of energy. (Gas at the pump was under $2.00 a gal.) I liked his picks for the Supreme Court, except Roberts. I liked that he kept us out of war with Russia, China and North Korea. I loved his policy with making NATO partners pay their fair share. I felt safe with Trump and his policies on homeland security. In fact I pretty much like every policy Trump implemented. The only thing that disgusted me about him was the way he belittled people and his paranoia .

Biden lives with criminals and shares the wealth of their criminal activities.

 

While I am not as old as you I am about 5 years younger than Inmate P01355809 and I know what aging is all about. You talk about seeing clues of aging in Biden while you ignore those of the Traitor-in-Chief.

Let's discuss mental acuity, you post coherently on this forum indicating that your mental faculties are still functioning in a normal manner. When Biden speaks he makes sense, he makes stupid jokes and then there are the lifelong gaffes. Even when Dark Brandon pops up you can see that he is as sharp as a tack and his political acumen is still functioning in a normal manner. Which leaves the Mango Moron...

I am going to pause and digress because this next point requires understanding motivation. Imagine you are on the jury of any of the trials and it is the first day of the Prosecution presenting evidence to the court in the form of witness testimony. After the preliminary identification and credential questions for the witness the prosecutor asks a question like "Did Mr Trump tell you to move those boxes"? The witness answers yes, he did. Can you see Inmate P01355809 having the SELF CONTROL to not shout out and call the witness a LIAR? Let's assume he can but then there is the next witness and the next, hour after hour, he has to sit there and say NOTHING at all. This is someone who must ALWAYS be the CENTER of ATTENTION. His ego is ADDICTED to attention. He needs that attention fix. How long before he loses self control? Because we both know that will happen.

Returning to the above WRT mental issues it is evident in recent communications that the STRESS is getting to him. He was just reprimanded for his language by the SC which means his ability to control the SEETHING anger inside himself is slipping. He deliberately used his "angry face" for his mugshot because that is the message he wants to send to his supporters. They will remember that face when they see his outbursts on TV during the GA trial. He will use "key terms" in those outbursts to tell them what he wants.

But that much internal anger is INFLAMMATION and just ask any doctor about what that can do to the body of a 77 year old man? You, me and Biden can control our anger, too bad the same cannot be said of the Toddler-in-Chief.

So what you see as "lots of energy" has more in common with a wildebeest's struggles when it has 4 lionesses taking it down. It ain't giving up without a fight but those 4:1 odds are NOT looking good for the final outcome.

Speaking of stress can you imagine trying to run a presidential campaign while juggling 4 different criminal trials?

I am getting my pirate voice ready for the inevitable "Thar he blows" moment.