Gun safe company hit with backlash for providing FBI with code to customer's safe

Apples and oranges.

 

Why?

 

no, and I explained that the agents most likely could force the safe open if the owner refused to open it-just like they can break down the entrance to your home to gain entry. This is a different issue

 

the warrant has no authority over the safe maker

 

Because it does not correctly reflect the situation at hand.
If I had a room with a locked door and the police had a warrant to search my house, can you legally deny the police the key to my locked door?
(The answer is yes).

 

I believe they have the right to break down that door

 

Good to see you now understand your statement was apples and oranges..

 

You write "yes" to the question "can you legally deny the police the key to my locked door?"

I presume you mean that the police still can legally smash that door

 

Indeed.

“Our company’s protocol is to provide access codes to law enforcement if a warrant grants them access to a property,” Liberty Safe said. “After receiving the request, we received proof of the valid warrant, and only then did we provide them with an access code.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/...hich calls itself,to help in an investigation.

But not any more. They have changed their policy over fear of the mob's retribution.

 

Those safe owners are going to be really happy that the police will now have to destroy their safes to see the contents if the owner refuses to open the safe

 

This is a classic case of a couple of nitwits on the radio working the rubes in to a frenzy for ratings.

 

...changed their policy over fear of the mob's righteous retribution.
And rightly so.

 

My safe is rigged to explode if forced open, so...

 

So anyone with that will end up with a destroyed safe and destroyed contents. Would it not have been better to just open the safe up for the police unless you have something to hide? The officers should have destroyed the safe owned by the person mentioned in the OP - would have served him right for being as arse. Wonder what they found in that safe.......

 

You clearly don't understand my intent.

 

And if that explosion occurred while the police were executing a warrant you would leave the house that day in handcuffs.

 

If there's a house left.
I changed my factory code to 00destruct0

 

They didnt have a warrant for the safe company's codes. The safe comany was under no legal obligation to provide them. They basically threw their customer under the bus. Sure, they had a right to cooperate ...just as consumers have a right to know thats what this company will do. I wont be buying their safes. Not without some reprogramming anyway.

 

What the company has now stated it will do is give law enforcement officials access codes only if it received a subpoena.

 

I guess I need to grind the serial number off my safe. No need to make it easy for them. I'll record the number in case I need it.

 

The nitpick is that the warrant was not addressed to them, and there was no subpoena.

So they didn't technically have to legally perform.

I'm as anti government and pro gun as they get, and even I think this is stupid. The safe company has no promise to you that they won't save themselves some legal fees and cough up the code to your safe if the Feebs come knocking. FFS, they would've just cut the safe open and then dude would have to buy a new safe anyway, the only difference is the company would've had to expend legal fees dicking around with the feebs. That wasn't part of their deal with you, it was to keep criminals and kids out of your **** not the feebs who have enough to force a warrant and if you **** with them later a subpoena.

 

From the perspective of the people complaining that's like trusting a person not to cheat on you twice because now they pinky swore.

 

The warrant is for the property owner. The 3rd party would get a subpoena and only THEN would that trigger legal obligations on their part.

 

They can definitely cut into your safe if you won't give them access and they have a warrant dude.

What country do you live in?

 

That's not how that works.