Gun safe company hit with backlash for providing FBI with code to customer's safe

Do the police often get a warrant to search your house?

 

That's exactly how it works.

 

No, they can't.

 

actually, depending on the warrant they can open a safe--now if the warrant is to search for say an automobile suspected as being used in a crime-its going to be hard to argue that they should have access to a safe. If its a flash drive or a handgun-yeah

 

That was the point I was making earlier.

 

Why is it that you say nuh uhhh twice to me and agree with him then try to backpeddle?

Its sort of silly.

 

And I've made that point earlier in the thread.

 

You said they couldn't cut into the safe because muh private property dude. Spare me.

 

Only once. My son was mistaken for someone else on line. They never went for my safe. It got worked out.

 

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They've got government responders that can cut open burning cars and they can take thermite bombs and destroy the baddest military hardware on the planet but the FBI can't get into a safe without leaning on some company to violate the confidentiality of their customers..... Of course it's just more convenient for the FBI than having to go get some tools and act like men and get the damn thing open by their self.

 

I would prefer they provide the key rather than invite the FBI to open the side of the safe with an angle grinder. At least the safe would continue to be useful. The actual problem is that the FBI wants to get into the safe in the first place to confiscate constitutionally protected items.

 

It would certainly be nice if you could bother to read the OP.

 

That's the safe owner's choice to make, not the person who sold the safe to the paying customer. I'll never own one of there safes.

 

It still is the safe owner's choice. He can either open it himself or the FBI will open it without causing any damage. But hey, you prefer that the FBI destroy the safe

 

The homeowner's choice was NOT to give them the combination.

You're still lost. The Safe OWNER made the choice not to give the FBI the combination.

The Safe Seller divulged the combination without the Safe Owner's permission.

I'll never buy one of their safes due to this breach of trust.

 

Cancel culture. You go. Get those bad folk - just like the liberal snowflakes do ... Yea!

 

Fake News. I simply have no desire to place my trust in an untrustworthy company. That my personal decision is such a problem for you, is your issue, not mine.

 

Cancel that safe company. Put their workers on the food line. You go! You got 'em now. kSnowflakes unite!

 

I have a gun safe that has a battery operated electronic lock with push button code entry. The company that sold it to me doesn't have the code because I put the code into the lock myself. The safe comes with a code and can be reprogrammed only once. The original code is then no longer operative. If something happens to the lock there is no other option than drilling out the lock or entering the safe destructively from the side. Nobody but me and my wife have the code.

Obviously the safe in question had a manual lock that was not programmable. The safe company should choose not to have a record of the combination. Such a practice makes the combination available not only to the FBI but anyone else who can get it from the company in some manner. Things should work just like they do for my safe.

Having said that, the safe owner is stupid for refusing to open the safe in the face of a search warrant. It would result in either destruction of the safe or an arrest for obstruction of justice. One way or another, the FBI is going to succeed in exercising the search warrant.

 

No hyperbole there huh?

 

Regardless, that was his choice to make, and the Safe Company, without his authorization disclosed his information without his authorization, which is my book is a breach of trust and why I'll never do business with them.

I like your set up. Any concerns that the electronic lock can be bypassed or defeated?

 

When they get repetitive, it's usually best to just move on.

 

One could press buttons endlessly in the hope of hitting the right combination. Basically, the only problem would be a dead battery that was dead long enough for the lock to lose the code during a power outage. A nine volt battery lasts for years. I change it every year and have for the 20 years I have had the safe. If the battery is about to go dead the lock will signal that. The safe is also AC powered for moving the lock mechanism and for the heater so there is backup for the code. It could be a disaster and require drilling out the old lock and replacing it but so far so good.