Employers are fed up with college 'waste,' opt for skilled blue-collar workers instead

The job losses?

I mean, I guess if they have reason not to just go weld something then that would be unfortunate.

Im not sure Why they wouldn't just weld something else tho.

 

I think the real question is going to be how much of the money spent is going to be sent outside the country, or will create numerous more lower paying jobs (or that have the same pay but require much more training) compared to the previous existing alternative.

That's what it boils down to, in my view.

Most of the public can't fit complicated questions like that into their head though.

 

A communist newspaper? Really?

 

You don't understand how the market works. Do you?

 

Yes I do, hence my confusion around your comments.

First you say the Dems agenda will destroy the industry. Then it shifts to job losses (to a niche part of an industry where crossover is significant and not super onerous), to "7000 jobs", to the above ad-hominem.

Maybe post one long coherent and complete thought rather than ... whatever all that was, and then maybe we can get to the crux of this?

 

I was referring to my kid's job, not the entire industry.

That said, somehow you don't seem to understand that fewer jobs means less demand which means lower wages.

 

“OSHA’s existence is yet another example of the federal government creating agencies to address issues that are more appropriately handled by state governments and private employers,”said Congressman Andy Biggs. “Arizona, and every other state, has the constitutional right to establish and implement their own health and safety measures, and is more than capable of doing so. It’s time that we fight back against the bloated federal government and eliminate agencies that never should have been established in the first place. I will not let OSHA push Arizona around with their bureaucratic regulations and urge my colleagues to support my effort to eliminate this unconstitutional federal agency."

Read the bill here.

https://biggs.house.gov/sites/evo-s...ov/files/evo-media-document/BIGGS_138_xml.pdf


Uh-huh..we had that before OSHA.

Nice try, right from the congressman's mouth. They are now spinning it differently.

 

That assumes the number of pipes laid goes down, vs something else filling them instead of oil. Also, 1.81% of the sector.

 

Republicans want to build pipelines and destroy trucking jobs

 

Pipelines don't hurt trucking jobs.

 

sure they do, today it's shipped by trucks, if pipelines transport it, those jobs are gone

 

It's mostly shipped by train.

 

trains and trucks

 

Naah. I'm trying to get my nephews to learn trades.

That's gibberish.

 

I have been around corps for awhile, and they often put degree required or experience

that way if they do not want to hire them for any reason, the lack of degree is an easy reason (or they already know who they gonna hire)

 

After spending 35 years as an industrial electrician and automation tech, I now teach at a local community college. It isn't the biggest school covering two mostly rural communities, but the classes they offer and the career opporitunities can't be beat, as long as you are willing to put in the work. There are many good paying opportunities in my area that can be had with a two year degree or even with the right certifications.
Most of the fire, rescue, emt, police, etc. can get a great start a community college. I loved it when Biden talked up the community colleges, as it gets a person ready for a good and satisfying career and is so accesible.
I did attend a major university years ago (Kent State), and I cannot complain about the level of education, but was too immature, and luckily found an apprenticeship. In many jobs, an apprenticeship is the best way to learn. Community colleges are ideal for apprenticeships.

 

There are many different pathways to a succesful life. The vast majority involve active participation. That in itself is satisfying.
I tell my students that no matter what they choose to do in life to apply themselves to it fully.

 

Mostly trains. The oil that is tricked is local, from the field to a storage battery. There aren't any pipelines from the fields to the storage batteries.

 

What’s “gibberish”, that republicans would have those trade jobs paying less ?

Thats ABSOLUTLY true. Republicans are anti union. And like it or not, Unions in the trades not only raise wages, they stabilize them over time.

The idea that the guy who owns the company should make ALL the money, and that the government should have to subsidize their workers pay, so they can increase their own profits is not just short sighted, its ridiculously stupid.

 

Unions cause companies to go out of business, too. Remember when we had to bail out GM?

 

College used to be "about" becoming educated in a "classical" sense; not "story time". You'd learn little niceties like sentences begin with a capital letter. You must be hanging out with the dregs of "college grads".
It's apparent that "the diploma means next to nothing to you". "Experience keeps a dear school, but a fool will learn in no other." -B. Franklin.

I admit that many college's don't always turn out "educated" people and even if they do "educated" isn't what business want's or needs. Business needs down and dirty producers and what they know beyond that is irrelevant. In my field, college is a huge investment of time and money; when instead you can get a couple MS certs or take some classes in programing and be as much or more useful than the college grad. Which is what business is looking for; usefulness to the bottom line.

For the individual it no longer makes sense to saddle yourself with a mountain of debt when you can invest in specific training that will pay off much faster. I can't help but think "we" are losing something that way. But, it is the more sensible approach now.

There is no shortcut for some professions, so we will still have some classically educated people in society. But, society is losing something valuable in exchange for expediency.

 

Actually, the main reason pay in the trades has cratered is the flood of illegal aliens. They will HAPPILY work for peanuts.

 

Then you should be able to provide evidence to the contrary. I gave a link showing the rights intentions. Subsidies for the rich, and incentives to reduce the cost of labor.

 

The next jobsite I see without illegal aliens will be the first. Everyone being an illegal is nothing remarkable. One guy is "legit" in that he has one set of ID that's better than the others, knows where to go to get more or less legal permits, and he might kind of speak English. Everyone else is paid in cash and they rarely bother with little things like payroll taxes, insurance, or anything else.

 

I guarantee there are more truckers that would prefer cheaper fuel than to be hauling it