“It Will Be A Shock”: Ukraine Lost 500,000 Soldiers In War So Far, Nearly 30,000 Per Month: Lutsenko

Lol. Of course the coup occurred and O and Nuland implemented it.

Get informed.

Shut off the TV. It’s nothing but propaganda to benefit the state.

 

Truth is lies.

Orwell lives!!!

 

Hundreds of thousands of lives are being sacrificed to poke the Russian bear. No one that is sane actually believes that Russia will lose. Yet they want Ukraine to fight to their last man anyway. And that's their stated goal. "To weaken Russia".

There could have been peace 18 moths ago in Boris didn't scrap the deal and told Ukraine to keep fighting while promising weapons. People like him dont care about human lives as evident by their rhetoric and action. It's just a big money-making scheme/money laundering operation by the military industrial complex.

Ukraine is running out of bodies. What good are those weapons if there is no one left to use them? Well. At least the people who are pushing this are getting very rich.

Ukraine is now less free with more severe press restrictions then it was before 2014. Ukraine was fine with a pro-Russian government before. It will be fine with a pro Russia government after. People who act like Ukraine being under Russia would be the end of them are just silly.

If Russia staged a coup in Canda and replaced a US friendly government with a pro-Russian government; Thats very antagonistic to the US, wed invade Canada tomorrow to "restore the proper order." And we wouldn't be wrong for doing it. especially if we had our most important naval base there. By that same standard, Russia isn't wrong either.

 

Exactly. Well said.

Unfortunately Americans are fed statist propaganda every day and many believe it. So, the facts you’ve outlined are unknown to them.

 

Report: Ukraine to Enact DRACONIAN Bank Account Seizure Scheme to FORCE Citizens to Fight Russia

 

Ukraine is an a night and day better position now than they were 18 months ago.

 

....depends on the definitions you're using...one could argue that he "lost" within 48 hours after the disaster at Hostomel and that everything else is just the death throes of a once proud army....whatever your definitions are of "winning" should perhaps be tempered by the fact that it's going to take at least 20 years for Russia to re-constitute a viable military...the point being we are on day 719 of the 3 day special operation....by any stretch of the imagination Russia is a spent force if all that's left to them is selling their state secrets to North Korea and Iran for ammunition...

But I'm sure you'll see a silver lining....

 

Because Russia pulled out because they were tricked with a peace deal?

Now Ukraine is running out of bodies. Multiple generations of Ukrainians have been killed in this conflict. I guess that's them being in a "better position" to you.

 

LOL ok Broshevik, pull the other one.

 

Yeh. I get it. You, like the neocons, only see this as an opportunity to "weaken" Russia. Not to win the conflict. And if hundreds of thousands Ukrains die in the process, it's just the cost of doing business.

The only issue with your theory is that

Russia replaced its old stock and now they're producing more than 100 new tanks per month. They're producing 6 times the drones that Ukraine is. They're outpacing any handouts given to Ukraine

Currently, Russian War industry is booming. As is the West's. All this conflict has done is to flush out the old stock and modernized the Russian military.

The only losers of this conflict will be Ukraine. As for Russia, they have already accomplished one their main military objectives long ago by securing land access to Crimea.

Hope that a pro war president gets elected. Because the arms shipment will dry up real quick. And all Ukraine will show for the entire conflict is nothing but dead bodies. An entire generation of men killed.

 

There are photos, and you would need to compare before and after photos, and it is a bit more
complicated than that.

But with 450,000 new graves at that time, late October if I recall, if those 450,000 consisted of both
dead and wounded, that leads to the question of how did they need 450,000 new graves if half of them
were only wounded, or were they?

'Where did they bury the survivors' was the punch line of an old joke.

 

Simple little tricks deceive many, because people remember the content rather than
every little word.

So when the news says the US has sent 'aid' to Ukraine, people just interpret it as
food or blankets or something like that.


Here's a recent real life example:
I've had frequent conversations with someone who has the TV on all the time
(I don't have a TV) and he keeps saying the US would not be so badly in debt
if we didn't keep helping other countries all the time.

I asked him for one example of a country we have helped and he gave 'Vietnam'.

So I said that we killed over 3 million of them and spread Agent Orange (dioxin)
all over the place, and he accepted his interpretation of 'help' was not very
accurate.

 

There's a simple answer to your question.
There are no photos showing 450,000 graves.

 

??? have you thought about how much data is needed to show that many graves,
and are you willing to count them, and you also need photos from before the war
and Kyiv has also hidden mass graves in the woods

 

Amid Western Sanctions, How Russia's Economy Outperformed Rival Nations

 

"Bill Carson". Excellent choice for a very American-sounding name, Comrade! Extra ration of beets for You!

 

So, you are not able to support your claim that there are 450,000 graves.

 

It was the same in the Vietnam War, if you pointed out a flaw in the reasoning being fed to the
US public, like that one bullet stuck in some metal on the USS Maddox did not deserve a war,
then you were declared to be in the pay of Ho Chi Minh.

 

....errmmm... do you maybe belong to this group of complete f**king morons that think Putin has masses of new equipment and masses of fully trained professional soldiers fully equipped and waiting in reserve...??...no....good!! Because there are some very f**kin weird yanks that do in fact believe that.


anyway lets just have a quick look at your post....so...flush out the old stock? Interesting...what stock is this then? where is the new stuff they've hidden!? So Modernise the military..yeah they tried that and got a crap load of the "old" stuff...as for the new stuff..well, have you heard of a tank called the Armata designated T-14? (the number is the year of acceptance of the prototype into production so 14 means 2014 in this case the older models like the T-72 would be 1972). This is the modern tank!! This is the latest and stronkest beefyest tank Russia has!! This ball of pure malice was hailed by it's makers and Russian MOD as being the ultimate MBT it was to be a world beater that would pummel everything before it; Leos and chally's would quiver before it's mightiness. Indeed, Russian MOD was so impressed they paid Uralvag trillions and trillions of rubles to procure thousands of these tanks....literally thousands....by 2022 Russian MOD was supposed to be the proud possessor of over 2,500 of these wonder beasts....guess how many they got....and guess how many they now have....and I wonder where all those trillion and trillions of rubles went.....hmmmmmm

So when you want to quote someone else's propaganda that Russia is producing 100 tanks...what did you say....100 per month....okay if you think Uralvag has the capability to produce that number of vehicles then mate...who am I to shatter that illusion. If in the peace years Uralvag couldn't produce their bestest tank ev'ah then just what tanks are they producing now...can you tell me? I mean the next one up the line was the T-90 which was basically an upgrade of T-72 which was an upgrade of the T-64....I mean they all have the same engine and stuff ...the T-72 has some active armour plonked on it but nothing special the T-90 is likewise slightly more technical as it has a couple of "pink eyes" up front designed to detect incoming missiles....as long as they are looking directly at the missile....
So what tanks are they making? Oh and where....?

And on the topic of Modernising...do you want to discuss aircraft? Shall we have a delve into all the amazingness of the SU-57 and how many the VKS should have and how many they didn't get.....missiles maybe....hypersonic missiles that don't work as advertised...(much to the misery of the now arrested designers).

just side a thought.....in 99.9999% of countries with armies...those countries generally don't "modernise" their equipment by having all their current inventory all banjaxed at the same time along with the crews and other occupants...for one thing the experienced occupants of said vehicles you'd probably want around to train new crews and drive the "modern" stuff.....

You mentioned summat about neocon I think? Sort of made me chuckle as I'm not really sure what one of those is...but if you like to label people you don't know then sure label me. But if we are labelling people then what sort of label would I give to some totally f**kin stupid yank that can't think for himself and laps up all the complete bollox about the amazingly healthy state of the Russian arms industry when he patently has no clue whatsoever....I wonder what sort of label you would apply....

...hmmmm....not working out too well for them at the moment is it....actually the main objective was to take Crimea in 2014, secure it and then use it as staging point for the drive to Odessa....but hey let's not get too bogged down in detail....like everything else it didn't work out quite right so let's move on to the next bit of fantasy......over to you.....

 

Never a missed opportunity to demonize the other as "complete f**king morons" prior to assumed premise fallacy.
Priceless that you are on the wrong side of the propaganda trope you are desperately trying to parrot though

Putin is on a war footing .. the nation on a war footing .. war factories going 24-7 .. 7 days a week - with 10 times the artillery of the enemy to start out with .. firing 10 times the number of shells .. in a trench artillery war. Vlad has plenty of Troops .. plenty of Ammo.

Nato on the other hand .. is not on a war footing .. as it turns out has no surge capacity ..can only provide Ukraine with a fraction of what it needs .. production many times lower that what Ukraine is going through just to defend .. never mind to aggress .. which at this point is a dream turned nightmare .. running out of human capital .. running out of Ammo .. money to run the Gov't .. on verge of collapse if Biden can't get bill passed sooner rather than later .. the looming election becoming a big stumbling block.

Those folks you calling nasty names got it right paddy .. turned out you were the priceless fallacy

 

I would love to see some evidence for that.

 

Evidence all over the place for Ukraine running short of ammo .. and the inability of US-NATO to keep up .. one needs to be hiding under a rock reading nothing but the most ridiculous Propaganda out of Ukraine to have missed that memo.

. https://time.com/6263802/ukraine-west-ammunition-shortages/

 

Asymmetrical demands for evidence. To support the Biden Administration narrative no evidence is ever required,
just parrot the lie.

To go against the Biden narrative people demand acres of photographs and personal experience.

 

What Kremlin lies .. and how is the "World Socialist Web Site" not orders of magnitude better than Western Propaganda outlets ?

You know you have nothing when one is reduced to Ad Hom Fallacy .. and nothing else in support of position.

And how on earth would you know what Propaganda is in the first place ? previously admitting to not being aware of any propaganda in western media .. boldly claiming that Propaganda doesn't exist in the West - Media - Political Pundits. That's a hard one to recover from mate .. going around talking bout propaganda when clearly the understanding of what Propaganda is - is not your forte.

 

Are you a child? Because you coming off like a pompous child. You're saying a bunch of random things. You're all over the place.

What stock? The stock that's been sitting in the fields rusting all day until now. Lol. That's why when the war first started, you saw old rusty equipment being used. And as it progressed and the old stock was flushed out, newer vehicles came in.

As for the garble, Russian economy, dispirite the sanctions outperformed the G7 countries.

IMF raises Russia growth outlook as war boosts economy
Russia’s economy will expand much more rapidly this year than previously expected, according to the IMF, as President Vladimir Putin’s military spending feeds through into wider growth.
https://www.ft.com/content/21a5be9c-afaa-495f-b7af-cf937093144d


https://www.bbc.com/news/business-64452995

UK economy to shrink more than Russia, predicts IMF
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/uk-recession-economy-g7-imf-warning-b2272434.html

The International Monetary Fund's (IMF) forecast that Russia's economy will expand more quickly than the U.S. this year and faster than previously predicted three months ago has raised questions over the effectiveness of sanctions.

The IMF has said that Russia's economy will grow by 2.6 percent in 2024—more than double the 1.1 percent growth in gross domestic product (GDP) it made in October. By comparison, the U.S. economy will grow by only 2.1 percent this year, according to IMF figures.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-imf-2024-economy-sanctions-1866071#:~:text=The IMF has said that Russia's economy will,2.1 percent this year, according to IMF figures.

As shown. It's a fact that Russian War economy is booming. In terms of growth increase, its outperforming all G7 countries.

No amount of screaming through your screen or acting like a deranged child will change that fact

Russia is replacing its destroyed tanks at a rate of 100 a month, UK intel says

Russia can make 100 tanks a month, allowing it to keep its offensive effort at the same level despite suffering major losses, UK intelligence said.
https://www.businessinsider.com/rus...e-tanks-100-month-offensive-ukraine-uk-2024-1

Russian manufacturers are making up to 7 times as much ammunition as Western arms makers, Estonian defense official says

Russian production of missiles and ammunition is thriving even in the face of Western sanctions, with military manufacturing outpacing even pre-war levels in the country, The New York Times reported this week.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-ammunition-manufacturing-ukraine-west-officials-2023-9

As stated.
Russian War economy is booming.

They're replacing their old stock quickly with new weapons.

They're outpacing any handouts given to Ukraine.

These are fact.
No amount of raving like a deranged child and screaming through your screen, or spouting random things will change that.