“It Will Be A Shock”: Ukraine Lost 500,000 Soldiers In War So Far, Nearly 30,000 Per Month: Lutsenko

Promises were made and then reneged. Now those promises are denied ever being made. It’s a sad fact.

 

Is there a document?....where is it?

I've had many promises made my way....too bad I couldn't get it in writing.

Anyway....NATO expands.....soon Sweden....Ukraine after that.

 

incorrect what they're fighting for is to be under Ukrainian tyranny. From Vladimir Putin to zalensky is a lateral move.

biden's problem with this is that American people don't want to be involved. He won't be reelected if he goes to war.

 

We should never make promises to corrupt governments.

 

Lol. The corrupt government is ours.

 

All governments are corrupt because they have power. And it is the single most destructive force in human civilization.

 

Yeah the word of ruling class should never be trusted. We need to get it in writing…as if that would matter.

 

I couldn’t agree more. Government is the greatest nefarious force the people face. We need to eliminate it as it’s practiced today.

 

It's certainly needs to be reduced and brought to heal a lot of people forget the government isn't our commander it's our bitch. They exist at our pleasure.

 

Duzhe’ Pravda bratchyk.

 

There may have been an off the cuff unofficial remark make such /by the U.S. “ we have no plans to expand NATO “. The key is no plans and the silent unsaid thought was “ if you guys don’t try to recreate the Warsaw Pact. “.

 

Myhaiylo Hrushevskiy an important Ukrainian history wrote over a hundred years ago that Russians have traits and attitudes that Latvians, Poles, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Belarus peoples do not possess. Funny but over a hundred years later even DNA shows Russians have some DNA strands that other Slavonic people I mentioned almost never have.

 

There is no photo, nor photos, of 450,000 graves.
Survivors do not need to be buried.

 

True....RuZZians are Asiatic in their thinking.

Their "oligarchic" attitudes are basically an Asiatic fiefdom.

Same as their architecture...their dress....their one headpiece...a pointed "budionovka" is basically Asiatic.

 

The time to get in writing was back in the day....far too late now.

 

Lol.

 

Jeffrey Sachs was in Russia when US and German governments promised NATO would not expand beyond Germany's eastern border:

https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/wgtgma5kj69pbpndjr4wf6aayhrszm

"The archives show irrefutably that the U.S. and German governments repeatedly promised to Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not move 'one inch eastward' when the Soviet Union disbanded the Warsaw Pact military alliance.

"Nonetheless, U.S. planning for NATO expansion began early in the 1990s, well before Vladimir Putin was Russia’s president.

"In 1997, national security expert Zbigniew Brzezinski spelled out the NATO expansion timeline with remarkable precision."

 

Looking at the source cited by your propagandist here, namely -- https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-...on-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early -- it is clear that various "assurances" were evidently made to Soviet leaders, but there were no written agreements, let alone anything to Putler or anyone else in the Russian Federation. So no, Gorby didn't get it in writing, and to top it off, such assurances would not apply to modern Russia anyway. They were about Soviet "security concerns."

This war remains a war of conquest by Putler to take Ukraine under his control. It has absolutely nothing to do with NATO expansion, as evidenced by his disregard for Finland joining and everything he has said about Ukraine and its people to date.

 

Like I said....no written agreements or documents....so no obligations .

 

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-...on-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

"Page from Stepanov-Mamaladze's notes from February 12, 1990, reflecting Baker's assurance to Shevardnadze during the Ottawa Open Skies conference: 'And if U[nited] G[ermany] stays in NATO, we should take care about non-expansion of its jurisdiction to the east.'"

US intentions to expand NATO to Ukraine and Georgia in order to surround Russia in the Black Sea region, and the American role in installing a far-right unelected coup government in Kiev in 2014 required the abdication of assurances given to Soviet leaders in 1990. The Russian Federation as the successor state to the USSR legally inherited those false testimonials of peaceful intentions. Hardly surprising when the greatest purveyor of violence (terror) on the planet lies again about its plans for regime change in Moscow.

 

1. Not a signed agreement
2. An "assurance" made to Soviet leaders, not Putler or anyone else in modern ruZZia.
3. ruZZia did sign an agreement to respect Ukrainian sovereignty and borders. Whoopsies.

 

Russian signed an agreement with a sovereign Ukrainian government. In 2014 a US-instigated coup overthrew a different sovereign Ukrainian government in pursuit of regime change in Moscow. How's that been working out for the "good guys"?

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-...on-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

"Washington D.C., December 12, 2017 – U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous 'not one inch eastward' assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University (http://nsarchive.gwu.edu). "

 

Of course, that is patently false. There was no coup in Ukraine.

This excuse that fascist ruZZia wants to use to invade and attempt to conquer Ukraine does not hold any water.

 

Of course there was a coup in Ukraine spearheaded by far-right demagogues like Yulia Tymoshenko and Vitali Klitschko and outright fascists like Oleh Tyahnybok's Svoboda party all paid for with $5 billion in US aid.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/02/25/pers-f25.html

"The fact that Svoboda employs neo-fascist symbols, agitates against foreigners, Jews, Hungarians and Poles, maintains close relations with the French National Front and is compared to the ultra-right Greek Golden Dawn and Hungarian Jobbik by the World Jewish Congress, has not prevented the foreign ministers of the United States and Germany from publicly embracing Tyahnybok."
https://twitter.com/mikenorman/status/1499741088608829444

 

More Kremlin lies. You know you've got nothing when you're reduced to citing propaganda outlets such as the "World Socialist Web Site."