Trump says he would encourage Russia to ‘do whatever the hell they want’ to any NATO country that do

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How can I trust a guy who betrayed 3 if his wives, countless business partners, and now our allies, and is a pathological liar? Seems foolish to trust such person.
     
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    I'm sure they are capable of organizing the effort. Local ground troops would stop the initial ground attack, and air forces, and missile defenses from the allies would join in very quickly.
     
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    NATO needs to be dissolved. At a minimum, the US needs to pull out of that MIC farce.
     
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    Doesn't matter, you aren't going to vote for him anyway. I am do it's important that I trust him.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Foolish is a mild description of it. Potentially fatal to the security of our country and the world.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    That would be suicide. Study history and learn about how we screwed our selves after WW1 and Dec 1, 1941. We let Japan take over a .arge par.t of China and parts of French Indo -China by blindly and foolishly say that it does not affect us. Sure it did not affect us until bombs fell on Pearl. We gave some support to the UK but Hitler almost took the UK. Poland enamel a parking lot for the Nazi war machine. Germany took over most of western and Central Europe and myopic fools said it does. not affect us. Sure,
     
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    Neither of which happened.
     
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    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    “Trump is a successful businessman”

    What a joke!

    He is the only man alive who managed to go bankrupt twice in the casino business, where the house is always supposed to win!

    He went broke in the minor league football business and the airline businsess.

    And, without Russian financing, he would certainly have bankrupted his father’s real estate business (he almost succeeded there too).

    And, on Friday, the State of New York will hand down the judgement in his massive business fraud case.

    New York bankers and real estate professionals laughed out loud when derp fuhrer bellowed that he “borrowed a million, made a billion”.

    But the no nothings, who go their impression of Trump the “billionaire” from a fake “reality” TV show, fell for it, hook line and sinker.

    And clearly still do.

    As to NATO members upping their military spending.

    It’s self serving and very obviously dishonest to pretend that this is now because of the treats Trump makes.

    The fact that Trump’s master, Vladimir Putin invaded the country next door apparantly is overlooked by the Trump crowd, in their search for a rationalization for their fuhrer’s open threats of betrayal.
     
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  9. Joe knows

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    I actually somewhat agree with this.
     
  10. TomFitz

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    A very large percentage of that is for peak power applications, where the plants are only run for parts of the day during high demand.

    As renewable energy continues to grow, and is augmented by battery farms, the need for peak power plants will decline.

    The industry already sees this. Which is why the investment capital of going into renewables and batteries.
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Just WOW. Talk about uninformed.
    You would be the first person on PF that doesn't know this.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lot of people who trusted him got royally screwed, but it's your life so good luck and all.
     
  13. TomFitz

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    Because isolationism served us so well in the past, and because Putin is a saint!

    Got it. The gospel according to trump.
     
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    Neither happened.

    Obama did not give Iran a dime of US taxpayer money, As part of the Agreed Framework, Iran was allowed access to bank accounts that had been frozen in American banks since 1979.

    This does not amount to the US “giving” money to Iran, as you falsely continue to pretend.

    I have no idea where you got the other one from. But Dan Bongino, Fox Noise, and Steve Bannon would be likely suspects.
     
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    No, that's just more anti Trump BS. Those who are going to vote for him have his first term and Biden's for contrast to judge who screwed who.
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    While you try and make excuses, Obama made billions available to terrorist. Which was already sanctioned and blocked. These accounts were frozen to keep money out of the hands of terrorist. But you think its ok to unfreeze them and give these terrorist access to billions because it isn't tax payer money?
    Thats a laugh

    Just like your Dementia boy. But you wouldn't know anything about that either. huh
    Biden Allows Iran to Access Another $10 Billion Amid Gaza War
    https://www.iranintl.com/en/202311150106

    Biden Keeps the Billions Flowing to Iran
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-iran-oil-hamas-israel-gaza-df192c53

    Biden enriched Iran by more than $50 billion. Here’s how to turn off the spigot
    https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/1...-50-billion-heres-how-to-turn-off-the-spigot/

    Like I said, you are the worse informed poster I have ever run across
     
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    Just like you trust a president who uses his power to take advantage of 18 year olds in the over office by sticking cigars in their vaginas.
    Or maybe the same way you trust Biden and Hunter to have 24 shell corporate accounts, not reported to the SEC or IRS, used to funnel millions from foreign adversaries to Biden family members.

    Or maybe how you trust Biden and Obama who both gave terrorist billions that were frozen by sanction.
     
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    what changed is that it didn't take the massacre of half a million Ukrainians for UK government to begin discussing investing in military budget but the words of one man and no loss of life
     
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    I'm not sure about your 1 man and no loss of life but.....the one thing I would say about the UK military is it really isn't equipped for a fight....seriously.....we spent all those billions on those useless bloody aircraft carriers....and for what....???
    The UK is floundering around pretending it's up to the mark but it isn't...it really isn't

    anyway sorry to interupt.....
     
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    No, you're right. It's not like the UK was ever comparable to Russia anyway. iMean not even USA is comparable to Russia but at least USA could put up a fight against Putin.
     
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    Believe it or not, but LOT of people have lost LOT of money because they trusted him. We know he betrayed the women he married, and chased whores instead. We know he is a pathological liar. We know he threated to betray / dishonor out allies. We know he trashed and insulted most people who worked in his admin. I get is you like him for whatever reason, but can a person like that be trusted? Hell no. This NATO think is just one more example on top of many other examples of how untrustworthy that guy is.
     
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    Meh, I support Haley. But then again, you already knew that, but here you are making up stuff left and right. Some people just can't help it. Unlike others, I have not made any declarations about trusting ANY politician.

    And listen to yourself. I mean, - trust Hunter with what?
     
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    You trusted JFK and Clinton, both known womanizers. I'm going to vote for Trump, I'm not going to marry him. His America first policy means we come before Ukraine or even Israel. We sure as hell come before the invasion from the South.
     
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    I wouldn’t say that if I were you.

    None of the material you provided as backup to your claim actually supports your claim at all.

    You danced right past my rebuttal of your false claim that Obama gave billions of US funds to Tehran.

    And you made the same claim aobut Biden.

    Yet, when challenged, the only evidence you can offer is that Biden hasn’t been as tough on oil sanctions as the Wall Street Journal Editoral page would wish (not that they really care, it’s just a political hit). The obvious reason is to keep oil prices down and to depress the demand for Russian oil.

    The last item is a political hit piece from a front group for the right wing Heritage Foundation. You know Heritage. The guys who are working on a list of reliable lickspittles to staff the proposed trump dictatorship.

    Try again.

    And this time, don’t attack people who are way better informed than you are.
     
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    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    If you’re not going to vote for him, why do you keep singing his song??????

    BTW, you’re the second (ex?) Trump supporter to make a similar claim on this forum today!
     

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