Trump says he would encourage Russia to ‘do whatever the hell they want’ to any NATO country that do

They can't get to the border or the boat ramps. Period.

No, the comment went over your head.

 

Lol

 

Denying protection is one thing. Encouraging an enemy state to also whatever they want to an allie is a whole other bag of worms. I’m not so surprised to see you support mayhem among allies

 

Maybe he's trying to remind them why they joined the alliance and why they should live up to their obligations.

 

By encouraging enemy states to do whatever they want with them? Are you for real? Private conversations between allies is one thing but to publicly say enemy states can have their way is beyond a negotiation tool.

 

Oh I'm real. It wasn't private when he was asked if he would defend a country that didn't meet the funding requirements. He answered it so it answered any more questions about shorting the obligation. Nobody posting here is having trouble understanding what he meant. Clarity is a necessary quality when outlining obligations.

 

That’s my point. Now enemy states know how he would handle it. If he said he wouldn’t defend them in private it’s not an advertisement for the enemy. If this is how we vote to be represented this will back fire. I really think those who are going to defend this will never be swayed. So I will not argue with blind politics. I will put out the truth and I am positive the true independent thinkers will make up their own mind for the better.

 

I can see where his political enemies might make use of his hyperbole but I really don't believe Putin is going to let it all fly based on that. Do you?

 

If Trump is true to his word I would say it’s pretty likely

 

Ok, cool. Now, suppose Trump is the next occupant of the White House and Putin moves militarily against a NATO country. I.e. invades.
1. What do you think Trump would do.
2. What do you think SHOULD be done?

 

Well Obama proved red lines won't hold Val up. He don't even trip over them

 

We’re not talking about Obama. Why did you even bring him up?

 

Russia is your enemy, not mine. The Soviets were my enemy (because of communism), and in 1991, that ended. I expected a longer period of peace, but a bunch of neoconservatives and others within the establishment and deep state only needed about 30 years to put us at each other's throats again.

I have no interest in defending every country Putin "illegitimately" invades as if that's some sort of high principle in itself. And I thank Putin for feeling the same as I do (as he obviously didn't jump to the defense of all of the countries we "illegitimately" invaded like Iraq, or Libya). If he had done that, and emulated Biden, we would probably be living in a radioactive hellscape.

 

Trump sure seems to be pro-Russia

 

When we invaded Iraq, Putin didn't send AQ and Iraqi insurgents a few tens of thousands of antitank and antiair missiles, drones, use of his satellites, and he didn't offer to indefinitely pay all Iraqi workers' salaries and pensions.

According to your logic, that makes Putin pro-American!

 

we never invaded Iraq to make it our own, remember, the Bush admin made up WMD claims so they could go to war with them

that said, Putin did involve himself in the background I am sure, I do not think Putin was 100% hands off in the middle east, do you?

 

The point was that it was an illegitimate invasion of Iraq. So the question becomes: what is the right course of action for all countries not involved (including Russia) in an illegitimate invasion? Should all countries which make the determination that an invasion is illegitimate, then throw everything they have at the oppressor? Or is it just the US that gets to decide if an invasion is illegitimate, and thus, just the US gets to intervene?

And no, Putin didn't send to Iraq 1% of what we have to Ukraine. Again, if he had made that idiotic decision like Biden is doing now, most of us would already be dead.

 

many did

 

Many did what? Physically oppose our illegitimate invasion of Iraq? Only Iran and Syria did that (and look how that's turning out), and it wasn't anything close to the commitment Biden has made to oppose Russia.

 

sending weapons, funds, etc... behind the scenes

 

What has that got to do with your sentence

"My ca doesn't run on natural gas. Neither does my washer/dryer, heat/air, lights, refrigerator, stove, or toaster."?

The real term cost of natural gas which produces 40% of the electricity used to run your washer/dryer, heat/air, refrigerator, stove or toaster had dropped significantly below that cost that was during Trump's term

 

wouldn't it be interesting to hear recordings of any phone calls between Putin and Trump sense Biden took office?

 

Trump doesn't back Putin... how silly can you get? And he plays hardball with NATO members... that's not "attacking".

Have a link foir that silly claim that he (underrmine the core commitment of the Alliance"?

He's a traitor? Can you tell me what court found him guilty of that? Oh, the court of your mind... ok.

"Openly carrying Putin's water"?? Can yopu say EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT? Such a vague, vague, accusation is completely meaningless.

No one is cheering for Moscow's agenda... except Moscow, Beijing and Tehran.

Look... if you are going to accuse someone of something, you really should reference SPECIFIC ACTS (act, date, place, etc.)... not just vague silly accusations.

That post is is as silly as one that screams "Biden is a thief!", "The Pope is a bigamist!", and "All baseball players do heroine!"... without a single FACT to back it all up. A waste of forum space.

 

And the 60% generated by coal and oil, whose costs have been driven through the roof by Biden, have sent costs skyrocketing.

 

Oil is cheaper now than it was in the summer of 2018! Taking inflation into account the oil price during Summer 2018 was around $85. It is now $76

And you are also wrong with the 60% figure!