Get ready for the dirtiest campaign in our history

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You HAVE to believe that if you are to remain a MAGA. Because NO news is good for MAGAs. Obviously you just WISH... really really hard... that reality weren't what it is. Unfortunately it is.

    You say now that almost all news is fake. I will see you in a very short time repeating FAKE news fed to you by MAGA media, and that you will believe is gospel truth. And the ONLY reason you will believe it is because it please "the Orange Idol"
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope. But if Trump said that fire is not hot, MAGA will believe him.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I posted facts from verified, mostly neutral sources. I leave lame excuses to those who continually refuse to prove any of their claims.

    Again, because it just isn't sinking in: the list was weak because you refuse to link to your sources.

    That's why your credibility rating is so dismal.
     
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    Farnsworth Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and annexation of Crimea under Obama.
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Yet you knew everything that happened on that list and commented on it.
    Your excuse is weak
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not the one in need of excuses.
     
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    David Landbrecht Well-Known Member

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    As both the duopoly's candidates are so low quality, there is little to use positively. The big bucks in "communication" with, thus, bet piled into negativity as never before.
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With trump involved, that goes without saying.
     
  9. gorfias

    gorfias Well-Known Member

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    Easiest campaign message in the history of politics:
    TRUMP: When I was in office, save for COVID for which the deep state is to blame, things were great. With the senile child sniffer that appears to have stolen the 2020 POTUS election? Things are a dumpster fire. After four years of national growth, adjusted for inflation, the vast majority of Americans are poorer as your wealth is being sent abroad and given to the members of an unprecedented invasion aided and abetted by the Left and uni-party. Vote for me and MAGA.

    https://www.bankrate.com/personal-finance/biden-economy-and-personal-finances-survey/

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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    YOU support the administration and mindset that allowed 7.2 million aliens to invade the nation, in violation of the letter of Federal law, the spirit of Federal law, violation of the will of the American people; betraying the trust of the American people, and wasting billions of dollars of the taxes taken from the American people. He's your man.

    Fake news generated by MAGA?

    When we see intelligent people doing stupid things over and over, we have to struggle with our common sense to avoid concluding that is the best they are capable of. However, what they are capable of isn't a qualification- what matters is what they do. That tells us who they are, and it's highly reliable. Ignoring truth, denying reality, failing your duty, BS'ing the people... those are actions that tell on you.


    Since you would never believe me and rely on your research, here's support- you best research it on your own to make sure it's not fake MAGA propaganda.

    "I no longer listen to what people say, I just watch what they do. Behavior never lies."
    Winston Churchill
     
  11. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Trump did NOTHING other than to try to remove sanctions from Russia. Sometimes he succeeded, sometimes he failed. That's not "hard". That's being Trump's puppet.

    Putin received MANY surprises from Trump. All of them great for Putin, but bad for us. He probably didn't expect Trump to reveal top secret information to his ambassador and his foreign minister, like he did a few months into his presidency.

    Trump was Putin's lapdog. And he demonstrated it again and again. I have seen several repeat this nonsense in this forum. And the reason in all cases is that they are looking for an excuse to vote for Trump.

    Look... this is exactly what this thread is about. There are too many MAGAs looking for an excuse to vote for Trump again. And Putin, with AI, by repeating again and again fake news on social media and on the MAGA media, will give them that reason. So just... vote for Trump if you want. But spare us the fake nonsense, please.
     
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    (Lets look and see who has really given into the Russians. The bias news won't tell you.

    Obama Appeases Putin By Ending U.S. Broadcasts Into Russia .
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    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/...
    Liberty: U.S. radio broadcasts to Russians are to end. With President Obama's friend Vladimir Putin getting a dubious 64% in a five-way presidential race in March, this is no time to pretend Russia...

    Did Obama Pledge ‘More Flexibility’ Toward Russia After
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    https://www.snopes.com/fact.../obama-more-flexibility-russia
    Dec 13, 2016 · A hot microphone picked up President Obama telling Russian President Dmitri Medvedev he would have more flexibility to negotiate on issues like

    The Anti-Obama: Trump Selling Missile Defense To Poland ...
    https://www.dailywire.com/.../anti-obama-trump-selling... When Barack Obama capitulated to Russia in 2010 by removing missile launchers in Poland that neared the Russian border? There’s a new sheriff in town. On Wednesday, the Polish state news agency PAP reported that Poland’s government will buy the Patriot missile defense system from the U.S.

    Trump in Poland: U.S. To Sell Warsaw Arms to Stop 'Hot …

    ://www.newsweek.com/trump-Poland-Warsaw-us-arms-Russia... A move set to counter Russia’s reinforcement on NATO's borders, Poland and the U.S. Have agreed that Warsaw will purchase the American-made Patriot air defense missile, the Polish government announced Thursday. Trump delighted many in Poland when he announced he would be visiting the country .
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    Trump Sends Tank-Killing Missile To Fight Russia in ...
    ://www.newsweek.com/trump-tank-killing-missile-fight... Trump administration approved the sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine on Friday as it continues to fight pro-Russian forces in the eastern part of the country, a move that has angered the Kremlin and signifies the U.S. …
    The President of Ukraine asked Obama for weapons to defend his country against Russian backed Ukrainian insurgents wanting to take over the country. Obama gave them food, uniforms, night vision glasses and blankets. NO WEAPONS. The Ukrainian President said later, you can't fight a war with blankets. Trump gave them the weapons pissing the Russians off.
    Trump admin announced fresh sanctions on Russia - CNNPoliticshttps://www.cnn.com/2018/01/26/politics/us-russia-sanctions...
    Jan 26, 2018 · The Trump administration announced new sanctions Friday related to Russia's occupation of Crimea and ongoing violence in eastern Ukraine, just days ahead of a congressionally mandated deadline for ..
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    Trump administration withdraws from U.S.-Russia nuclear weapons ...
    https://www.usatoday.com/.../trump.../2737306002/
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    1 day ago - Trump administration withdraws from nuclear weapons treaty, .... Closely review the security implications of Russian intermediate-range missiles and ... Theme he has hit on since Trump's decision to nix the Iran nuclear accord, .

    U.S. Says It Has Thwarted $6 Billion Russia-Germany Gas ...
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-15/...
    Feb 15, 2020 · Trump has assailed Germany for giving “billions” to Russia for gas while it benefits from U.S. protection. Nord Stream 2’s owners had invested 5.8 …

    A deal that Biden put back and then took it off again, as Trump did
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    7.2 million aliens have NOT "invaded" the nation in violation of the letter of Federal law. But here is the problem: the part of the news that you do believe IS the fake. This is PRECISELY the reason why you don't provide evidence, references, links, evidence... And I DO.
     
  14. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Couldn't get much dirtier than Hillary and Democrats paying 11 million dollars for a fake dossier that says Trump conspired with Russia to tip the vote to him. They came out with it just a few months before the election. The FBI knew within just a short time that the dossier could not be verified but Comey sent it to the FISA court anyhow. He had to sign that the dossier was true and verified when it wasn't. The FISA court creamed the FBI for that. An FBI lawyer was even convicted of changing the wording in order to help get it through the FISA Court. The FBI also had a duty to inform the court that they got the document from the opposing political Party and didn't.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Let's not. This thread is about how the upcoming Trump campaign will be ridden with fake news, fake audios, fake videos, fake picture... which will be traced back to Russia, China,... or any of Trump's collusion partners (a.k.a. dictatorships). Derailing this thread will not remove that fact.

    If you want to debate anything else, feel free to open your own thread. If it has anything that evokes my interest, I might participate in it. If it doesn't... I'm sure somebody will.

    I mean, I'm pretty sure that I can convince most people that giving our top security secrets to Russia is worse than asking them over an open mic to wait until after the elections to negotiate what prompted our sanctions. But I'm not sure I'm interested in wasting my time.
     
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    The President has a duty to protect our borders and he didn't. He even said to a Hispanic group that we can take in two million people none stop. He all but gave people a green light to come in. It's been the biggest invasion of all time under Biden.
     
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    And almost all of it as usual will be produced by Democrats.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, you want to be just like your Party, where you say what you want on a subject but want to keep an opposing view off? Seems to me the Democrats have already being sued for the same thing you want and you think the Republicans are the ones playing dirty?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    From the enemy. Not from people seeking asylum that xenophobes hate because they don't have the "right" skin color. Hate speech like calling them "invaders" does not make people who are coming here to escape persecution our "enemy".
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    You believe in the leftist horse crap you wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the ass. And most actual fact do.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I have no power to prevent you from opening a thread. But I have had threads shut down for going off topic. Most of the time it's partly my fault for going on and on in an off-topic debate with a MAGA (who is usually derailing it on purpose, BTW). So I won't do it here.

    My point is not so much that Republicans are playing dirty, like it is that RUSSIANS will be playing dirty. We shall see if Republicans COMPLAIN about it to help keep the campaign clear... or they prefer to just take advantage of the FREE propaganda. It's just that I have the distinct feeling that it will be the latter.
     
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    Nope, just making them
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You say much of the news coming out and will be coming out of the Republican Party is fake news and Trump has done nothing. When I show you that the ones putting out fake news is the Democrats with their fake dossier, they paid 11 million dollars for and tell me Trump was Putins lap dog, you say you don't to derail the thread. You sir have already derailed by putting out fake news.I know you would just love to keep this thread all anti Trump and don't want to let the people know the truth. Your no better than what your Party is. Let all the news come out. Don't try and get your lies in and shut the door and people thaat can show the lies you tell them
     
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    Really ? All of it ? After 11 defense agencies wrote reports that Russia interfered with the 2016 election ? And that it helped the Orange Stain ?
    I wonder how many Russian troll farms Dirty Donnie has been and will be getting help from thru November ?
     
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    Except you cannot prove it ever happened except may be on hillarys unsecured bit bleach server.
     
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