Get ready for the dirtiest campaign in our history

Nah, run the gangs members, and criminal out, priority one.. Like I say the others will leave on their own once they have achieved their monetary goals..

Priority two, lock the border down making entry thru ports only, make documentation a must, without it NO WORK, no lodging or basic amenities.. Make legal entry the only viable way to make it in country..

Take a lesson from Australia or Sweden.

https://liveinmelbourne.vic.gov.au/migrate/migration-process/how-to-migrate-to-australia

 

The solution is to secure the border and do like we did do for years. Take applications from all over the world, but put on many more checkers that can vet them out before letting them in. Under normal circumstances we were allowing in around seven hundred thousand to a million every year. But it would take years to vet them. With computers, and manpower that shouldn't be a problem today.If there is a shortage of manpower in any industry like farming or construction, have companies post those jobs and it can allow anyone interest in it to apply. We have been allowing people all over the globe to have a chance of the American dream and we can again and also know who we're letting in. This would also allow us to be sure some of the people we allow in can fill the needs we have. Which we are not doing now.

 

You know Golem, this is the big problem with Liberals. They can only see things one way. They also can't read between the lines. They hear what they want to hear. It's like Trump asking the doctor if there is a way of injecting bleach into the body to kill the virus as they said it does kill the virus. It was a stupid question and one he should have asked the doctor in private, sense he didn't know. But the next day the bias news said Trump said you can take bleach in the body to kill the virus. Next thing you know someone did take it and died.

I know refugees can't vote until they are citizens. But by putting a Democratic registration in a gift basket will stay with these people, especially when a Democratic President was in office. Then when allowed to vote. they are going to remember that gift basket, the registration and the President who was in office to let them in. Who do you think they are going to vote for? Sorry you can't see that. I don't think it's hard to figure out.

 

Right. Unless I get support from a Golem-Approved link, it's garbage. We already know that, which is why we don't play your game.

And you did defend the legality of the illegal alien invasions..... But you don't want to look at why it's illegal. Read point one above, again.

 

Oh.... I see. Tag them some way so we know who they are before putting them on trains. Maybe tattoo a star of David on their forehead so we can identify them by just looking at them?

Anyway... off-topic. Open a thread if you have questions.

 

We have NEVER secured the border. Again: off-topic. And, BTW, the problem with illegal (or undocumented) people is not the border. But, of course, there is a reason why MAGAs discuss this in threads where it's off-topic. To try to derail them. So I'll leave it there.

 

The dirtiest campaign in my recollection was the Obama reelection campaign against Romney in 2012.

 

Yep! We can only see them through the prism of REALITY. Whereas MAGAs have the capacity to change what they call "reality" at will.

That is exactly why they are prime target for fake propaganda.

Oh... DO open a thread to know more. Off topic here but I am eager to find out why you think that earning people's vote by doing things that benefit them is bad, but earning it by LYING to them isn't.

 

I get off topic because you drag it off topic.by bringing up stuff Republicans didn't do. You want this thread to only be how rotten Republicans are and how innocent are the Democrats and I'm not going to let you spread those lies.

Maybe you need to look at the thread I opened last night on one way justice. Maybe you'll learn something

 

Even if you get support from a garbage link, it may not be garbage if the link shows EVIDENCE. However, garbage links do have the particularity that they can be easily debunked when they publish made up facts. Which might end up being a bit embarrassing for you. But maybe you know that... and that's the reason why you don't even try.

 

Unfortunately it is a nation doing it to itself. People cheer it on.

 

I give examples of how Republicans have been more vulnerable to fake propaganda.

Provide a link if you think it relates to anything we have discussed here.

 

All hyperbole and ridiculous aside Do you have ID? Have you a birth certificate, do you carry a form of identification..

I'm mean even a guy like you can appreciate identification, although it very revealing how quickly you jump to star of david tats and SUGGEST a NAZI narrative..

Is that how you view your SS#, DL#, PASSPORT, and all the other means in which we prove who we are..

Funny stuff Golem.. Then again I can't say how you get thru life, maybe you manage the same way undocumented person does it..

You ask the question I'm allowed to rebut..

 

But- you don't know what evidence is. You can't take things at face value because they are implied, nor because they fit what you want to believe.
Being indicted or even convicted- still isn't evidence, it's opinion. Most evidence is circumstantial, it's the way it's used that creates the results.

We aren't just looking at the corruption of people in office, we're looking at the intentional corruption of the system- all our systems. The only way to do that is to distort truth- to fuel people emotions to the point they don't think logically, and support pure nonsense. IF I thought you were actually interested in finding truth- we could discuss. I not only don't believe that, I am absolutely sure you will not allow it. Not on your agenda. I think you deceive yourself- and are either a great success at it, or in desperate need of reinforcement and confirmation to help you get there.

What you think is only the product of HOW you think, and I don't believe you know how powerfully that mechanism controls you, likely don't understand it at all.

 

You don't think the Democrats put out fake stuff? They don't lie or tell half truths? Golem


GOP turns fury on Schiff over Russian collusion claims

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Mar 25, 2019 — Adam Schiff, the House Intelligence Committee chairman, seemed to be on every talk and late-night show sounding ominous warnings about what ...

Missing: plenty ‎| Show results with: plenty


All the Adam Schiff Transcripts

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https://www.wsj.com › Opinion › Review & Outlook

Newly released documents show he knew all along that there was no proof of Russia-Trump collusion.

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Republicans used to oppose mandatory ID. But that was before the party was taken over by fascists.

However, as a result, people are not required to carry ID. I don't know what your point was. I definitely see benefits to a mandatory ID. But your assumption that gang members don't carry and ID is absurd.

Off topic, so I'll end it here. However this might be an topic interesting for another thread. I would like to find out why Republicans have now changed their fear of mandatory IDs.

 

So, you complain about offtopic, and then continue to inject off topic questions so you can AGAIN complain about off topic..

LMFAO

 

I know what it's NOT. And it's NOT making up whatever crap comes to mind and not showing any references. Which is what you do.

It's pretty good evidence to any rational person who is not part of a cult.

The rest of your post: more claims with no references, quotes, links or... ANY sort of support in reality.

 

Binary thinking signals the point in which one can stop paying attention to your post.

If you you're going to rebut something I said QUOTE it!

Yes! There have been instances in which a Democrat said something that was false. Usually short-lived because Democrats don't fall so easily for made up crap like MAGAs do. But Trump's collusion with Russia: 1- It's a proven fact and 2- It was NOT put out by Democrats. Nor was it Democrats who proved it.

When you are trying to derail a thread, you should try to at least get your facts straight.

 

My hope is that you will open a thread to answer the questions. IF you have an answer, that is. If they were just talking points intended to derail the thread, you need not bother.

 

I could, but that would be duplicating what you've already established here.. Maybe the best thing to do is you follow your own rules..

 

Got them strait Short lived you say?
Adam Schiff
Censured media darling Adam Schiff used liberal TV platforms to peddle 'collusion' claims for years
The top Dem repeatedly claimed he saw 'evidence' of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia

https://www.foxnews.com/media/censu...v-platforms-peddle-collusion-claims-for-years

 

I don't have "rules". It's the FORUM rules.

 

You're not reading, are you. 1- Collusion was a fact. Facts are not "fake news" 2- It was NOT Democrats who demonstrated it. It was Republicans.

If you want to discuss collusion, you can open a thread, or use the search function to find many many threads in which the evidence (especially from the Mueller Report) are shown. And BTW, collusion was one of the MINOR "missteps" committed by Trump. Not really considered that big of a deal by Democrats as much as Trump's REAL crimes. "Collusion" was more a big deal on right-wingnut media than on the MSM.

What IS fake news is that collusion is NOT a fact. And you believed that! More proof of how vulnerable to fake news MAGAs are. Which IS the topic of this thread.

 

Would you like me to show where you started the spinoff Golem?

I'd be more than happy to oblige?