Get ready for the dirtiest campaign in our history

Actually it was supposedly 17 different US spy agencies. Can you even name seventeen US federal spy agencies? I thought the article was BS at the time and I still do. Oh and Putin prefers Biden.

 

Right, You have the power to keep off any fake news the Democrats tell. You only want on this thread about the fake news you think the Republicans will tell. I'm very aware of that.

Of course the Russians will play dirty. Don't think America hasn't interfered in other nations elections. They have done it time after time

 

If you don't have enough common sense to know when your house is on fire.... Damn.
Does someone have to come around with proof that the sun is out, or that dark is evidence it's not?

Do understand the law is supposed to be the expression of common sense, not the distortion of it?
No. I don't think you do.

So- you are telling us there are no illegal immigrants. Maybe there are no immigrants, and the MAGA people are just faking it.
Good luck selling that crap. The people trying to pass this BS off on the country are just as guilty for it as the swarms wading the river right now.

 

Obama himself said this. Barack Obama said, “We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently, and lawfully to become immigrants in this country.”

Obama says that Americans are generous and welcoming, but he also notes that those who employ people living in the country illegally “disrespect the rule of the law.”

President Obama said illegal immigrants will harm “the wages of blue-collar Americans” and “put strains on an already overburdened safety net.”

“[T]here’s no denying that many blacks share the same anxieties as many whites about the wave of illegal immigration flooding our Southern border—a sense that what’s happening now is fundamentally different from what has gone on before,” then-Senator Obama wrote in his 2006 autobiography, “The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.”

Most of these people are not here because of persecution. They are here for the wages, benefits and free health care they can get. We don't have the slightest idea of who we are allowing in. Which puts our country at risk of terror attacks and Biden is encouraging it to happen by not securing our border and vetting those here.

 

That's what this thread is about. So what was your comment about the topic?

You keep trying to change the subject. Why?

This thread is about the gullible people in OUR nation. They will believe and, over the next 8 months, spread Russian fake propaganda, mostly generated by AI. Gullible people in other nations is THEIR problem. Our gullible people is OUR problem. I can only address one problem at a time.

 

No, I haven't. Read YOUR post, and then read MINE. I'm marly addressing the exaggerations motivated by xenophobia and promoted by fake news.

 

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people seeking asylum.

The fact that I SAID "people seeking asylum" might have given you a hint.

 

You think 5 million are all seeking asylum, all under Biden? Why is it people always believe everything their Party says? I'm talking about Republicans too. Each side repeats every word and lie the leaders of their Party says. If heard Republicans says Biden is a liar and he is. But I also heard the same person say Trump doesn't lie and Trump lies all the time.. What I'm concerned about is how bad is the lie and how is it going to affect me and my country. I think more than anything, the Democrats see them as future Democratic voters. Now if you were an illegal and the Democrats brought you in to get the America dream, just who would you vote for when becoming a citizen?

 

Are you in the habit of jumping into discussions without first finding out what is being discussed? According to the poster I responded to, NONE of them are.

Off-topic in this thread. So, to go back to the topic, this is the lack of attention that leads people to believe fake news.

And, BTW, every time you feel the need to ascribe to me a statement that includes the word "all" remember: I, do NOT think in binary, like you do.

 

You're another one who doesn't back up claims unless asked. Your credibility isn't much better.

I don't believe. I research.

 

I have met many from Mexico and south American countries.. They just use the ASYLUM claim to get in, buy them time to enrich their holding in Mexico and South America and then return after a decade or so.. My next do neighbor "Guatemalan" runs used vehicles back to Guatemala where his family resales them for a nice profit.. Children change the time they stay, not because of the anchor clause but because they stay until their of age and on their own and then move back.

I have no animosity towards them, if America is that stupid and they are that smart, God love um! The one thing that tickles me the most is, the children end up lazy Americanized knock offs of our spoiled lazy little brats and the Latino parents figgin hate it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Price you pay for I guess

 

Something to understand is that the laws are also a kind of game. If you have heard the term "gaming the system", that refers to using the law to manipulate itself; to evade or distort the intent and or spirit of the law. The party in power has an advantage, in that it can selectively choose to indict, to enforce, or to interpret laws as they choose in many situations.

It's obvious if you read the federal statute on immigration law for example, that the actual law is being violated by our own adminsitration. Thousands of times.
One of the provisions of law we have allowed and given excessive latitude is the presidential privilege of Executive Order. It is dependent upon the integrity and honor of the president in office, but easily used to distort the intent of a law.

The National Constitution Center (constitutioncenter.org) explains how the executive order priviledge allows this:

"The constitutional basis for the executive order is the President’s broad power to issue executive directives. According to the Congressional Research Service, there is no direct “definition of executive orders, presidential memoranda, and proclamations in the U.S. Constitution, there is, likewise, no specific provision authorizing their issuance.”

But Article II of the U.S. Constitution vests executive powers in the President, makes him the commander in chief, and requires that the President “shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” Laws can also give additional powers to the President. While an executive order can have the same effect as a federal law under certain circumstances, Congress can pass a new law to override an executive order, subject to a presidential veto."

So- we have a situation where we have granted a power to a president that equates to the restricted constitutional authority to create the effect of laws outside the framework of Congress, and it provides "no direct definition" of what they may be- and "no specific provision authorizing their issuance". We have granted a power for a president to alter the effect of a law passed by the Congress; without the approval of Congress. While it states that the president "Shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed", that is a highly negotiable term, open to opinion. We "trust" that a president will have enough character and enough dedication to the nation he leads- to not sabotage it with the power he has to distort the execution of our laws.

This is how Biden is evading the United States law prohibiting exactly what he is doing- allowing a virtually unrestricted invasion of our sovereign border, which every other person in this country could be arrested and imprisoned for doing, because the law prohibits it. By the power of his office- the law on immigration is being trashed.

It is a violation of Federal code to invite any person to enter the US illegally, or to aid, assist, harbor, transport, etc- any person known to have entered the nation illegally. Penalties up to 10 years in Federal prison- PER COUNT.

Aside from the latitude of Executive Orders, there is absolutely no question that the law is NOT being "faithfully" executed, and that is directly because the power of executive order and interpretation is being intentionally abused, and being used to foster an invasion, to both a condition of chaos and a massive financial burden. While the immediate effect is disastrous, the fact is the damage will continue for decades, even if the illegal entries were to halt today.

By this means, a president can violate the letter of the law, the spirit of the law, the intent of the law- with the latitude of executive order.
The first question- is why any person in that office would do that and bring great harm to the nation and the people he is responsible for?
The second- is why any American would support such a person or vote for them?

Then.... Ask yourself what you can expect they will be willing to do in a campaign to keep that power.
.
References:
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog...-what-are-they-and-how-do-presidents-use-them
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

 

Read my last post, #162. Answers some of your confusion.

 

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — A leading Nebraska lawmaker demanded “corrective action” from the state Democratic Party on Monday after learning that party officials included voter registration forms in welcome baskets for refugees, a move that has drawn intense criticism and death threats

 

Golem, try and leave out Nebraska and word it anyway you want and see if you can find it on that far Left search engine Google.

 

Crap like that litters the political landscape behind these people, then they are shocked at anyone suspecting there's a reason for it.

 

Of course! So? What is the solution? Rounding up everybody who has the wrong skin color and putting them on trains, or what?

Do open a thread if you have a proposal as to how to know which are which by just looking them, if you have one. This thread is about fake propaganda.

 

I'll pass. It's all clear to me...

 

Is that intended as an example of the propaganda, or did you really not know that refugees can't vote?

 

Financial hardships are NOT reason for asylum. By that standard the entire world can come here for FREE education and healthcare. You believe that crap? Drug dealers are NOT reason for asylum. In that case entire cities of people should be able to go live in Martha Vinyard because it’s nicer there than Chicago

Repeating the same BS lie that they’re here for asylum is just repeating the same LIE!! You can’t pay a coyote to smuggle you here for asylum. There are NO legitimate cases of asylum. It’s all fraud.

 

You asked earlier to show why Biden's actions were illegal. That's what you are passing on.
Figures.

 

I'd say he knows that. He also can see that the people loading those things in the basket are trying to promote the idea they can or should. Provoke protest, demands, more BS . Keep the pot boiling, the arguments going. Foot in the door....

 

That's right... So? Did you have a point?.... No? I didn't think so...

 

What are you talking about? I have asked no such thing.

BTW, people who lose touch with reality are the main target group that Russian fake propaganda will be directed at.

 

Good to know...

People that are granted asylum are on a path to citizenship and they SHOULD vote when they achieve it.

BTW, just so you know for future reference, and so I don't have to repeat the same thing again. Every time you make a claim and don't show references, links, evidence, or... anything, I'll just assume you got it from some Russian bot and not bother with it.