It's Time For Full UN Membership For Palestine

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  1. Farnsworth

    Farnsworth Well-Known Member

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    Gazans are just fine with extermination policies.They vote by overwhelming majority of 90% for mass extermination of over 8 million Jews in an election the UN itself said was free from corruption, and their govt.'s charter contains their favorite slogan, "From the river to the sea," so why are people sniveling about Israelis?
     
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    Any time a media outlet reports an opinion, it should be stated as an opinion belonging to so and so. When they report it as fact, it is a declaration and poor journalism.
     
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    They have a terrorist group as their governance.
     
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    I'm sorry but that's just a stupid question. There is no such thing as "humanitarian atrocities." It's something that either you or some idiotic leftists made up to excuse terrorism. It's an embarrassment that you are even trying to use that term.
     
  5. WillReadmore

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    Slaughtering citizens of a region is NOT something we stand for.

    We claim to have Christian values.

    Starving children to death (and bombing and shooting them) is not a Christian value.

    Yet, THAT is what the USA has supported.
     
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    Oh, so you get to slaughter the children?

    Seriously? Can you better identify your moral values?
     
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    This came from world organizations, with the USA being a principle founder.

    As we saw with the testimony given in response to the South Africa charge against Israel at the ICJ, countries all over the world reject the humanitarian atrocities Israel is perpetrating on Palestinians.

    That includes West Bank - not just Gaza, although Gaza is where Israel is starving children to death and slaughtering civilians.
     
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    Who has more of a structured democratic government? Israel or Palestine?

    And what kind of government openly declares it's population as martyrs?
    https://x.com/MEMRIReports/status/1719662664090075199?s=20
     
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    when and how?
     
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    Are you suggesting that if Gaza doesn't have a good government then we can pay Israel to slaughter them?

    Genocide is not a method of ending terrorism.

    And, I would point out that the Likud party platform of today includes that there will be no government other than Israel's government from the river to the sea.

    What we are seeing is NOT a rational, moral approach to terrorism.

    It is genocide carried out for profit.
     
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    who is profiting?
     
  12. WillReadmore

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    Read the reports from reliable sources.

    BBC
    Reuters
    WHO
    New York Times
    Barron's
    Fox News
    ...

    Or, look at Youtube.

    There are trickles of aid getting in - nowhere near the quantity needed.

    US air drops are a token, but not an effective delivery mechanism.
     
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    Netanyahu's political party is Likud. Their platform states that Palestine can not be allowed to exist.
     
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    They may be respected by some but they are wrong. Hamas meets every criterion for being labeled terrorists.
     
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    The problem is that the aid isn't getting to the people. Hamas is taking it all.
     
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    I do not agree that is even an issue.

    What is going on is genocide. Israel is starving children to death.

    There is NO moral foundation for this level of pure horror being rained on the citizens of Gaza.
     
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    The problem is that there is a major insufficiency of aid entering Gaza.

    Israel owns Gaza right now. And, they are NOT facilitating aid delivery, which is a task that ONLY Israel can do.
     
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    No I am suggesting that in order to have a legitimate STATE you need a legitimate government representation. Hamas is not it.
     
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    Mandela was considered a terrorist too. Now he is the darling of the world
     
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    Mandela was never a terrorist. Hamas is a terrrorist organization.
     
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    Oh world organizations you say? Well no wonder it's such a stupid term. If you want to have a conversation, you need to stick to what's considered somewhat normal English words and what they mean, not this sort of gibber jabber. It's a phrase that has no intrinsic meaning, which might be perfect for a global NGO, but utterly meaningless to me.
     
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    Pay attention. The problem is that Hamas is stealing the aid. It isn't getting to the people. You are supporting a terrorist organization.
     
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    The horror was on the part of Hamas. Sadly the people in Gaza have to suffer in order for that horror to be eliminated. It isn't nice and it isn't fair. But it is what it is. Getting rid of Hamas will be a benefit to Gazans, obvsiously.
     
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    The west labelled Mandela a terrorist too and now he is the darling of the world
     
  25. WillReadmore

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    President Abbas is president of Palestine.

    Gaza has a separate government, because Israel will not allow the West Bank government to operate in Gaza.

    As for the people, they are VERY aware that there is no progress to be made by working with the UN, where the UNSC verified that the Abbas government DOES warrant UN membership.

    But, that was one more step that the USA vetoed.
     

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